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he only reason people will prefer RCS is because of the junk they can send across to people and the can see that you are typing and that you saw my message rubbish, which I would disable.

So you would never, ever, in a million years, want to receive high-resolution photos from someone with an android phone? Or a video? Bold.
 
Yes. Why would you not want a better experience when texting someone on a different platform? SMS is hot garbage.
No one have told me why it is better? I have asked this for a couple of years and still not got a decent answer. So you can share media at higher resolution, not interested, just gives people an excuse to send rubbish, get enough over Faceache messenger. Emojis, again, not interested. Read receipts and typing indicators, again, not interested, not needed, I don't want people to know I am active and typing a message.
Chats, again, not interested and this is what RCS is really about, not just messages.
I don't want to go backwards and forwards texting people, if I am doing that, then I may as well phone them. I have unlimited voice. All I want for a messaging service is the ability to write a short message, like do you want to meet for coffee tomorrow, I then get a message back at some point saying yes or no, and I reply with what time and where, and they reply with the time and place. Done, sorted, simple, why would I need any other messaging and all the features just for that? SMS does the job fine.

Sure, there are some people who can't be off their phone and seems to walk around looking at their phone more than the road in front of them that will love this RCS, but for me, it has no use. I am talking about the youngsters out there that seems to be able to go five minutes without their phones. How they are not killed by being knocked over by a car, I don't know.

I will stick with SMS, no matter what phone I use, Android or IOS, also less chance of having AI rubbish shoved on it as well.
 
So you would never, ever, in a million years, want to receive high-resolution photos from someone with an android phone? Or a video? Bold.
If they really want to send them to me, then do so by email like we used to, everyone has email I presume, well they do on Android phones as they normally have a Google account so get a Gmail account, I presume they get something from an Apple ID account as well.
While I do have an Apple ID account, I have not really looked into it that much, only use it if I have to install something from the store on my Mac, and then I sign back out. I pay for a domain and email service.
Even then if they can't send it via email then if they really have to use Faceache messenger.
 
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No one have told me why it is better? I have asked this for a couple of years and still not got a decent answer. So you can share media at higher resolution, not interested, just gives people an excuse to send rubbish, get enough over Faceache messenger. Emojis, again, not interested. Read receipts and typing indicators, again, not interested, not needed, I don't want people to know I am active and typing a message.
Chats, again, not interested and this is what RCS is really about, not just messages.
I don't want to go backwards and forwards texting people, if I am doing that, then I may as well phone them. I have unlimited voice. All I want for a messaging service is the ability to write a short message, like do you want to meet for coffee tomorrow, I then get a message back at some point saying yes or no, and I reply with what time and where, and they reply with the time and place. Done, sorted, simple, why would I need any other messaging and all the features just for that? SMS does the job fine.

Sure, there are some people who can't be off their phone and seems to walk around looking at their phone more than the road in front of them that will love this RCS, but for me, it has no use. I am talking about the youngsters out there that seems to be able to go five minutes without their phones. How they are not killed by being knocked over by a car, I don't know.

I will stick with SMS, no matter what phone I use, Android or IOS, also less chance of having AI rubbish shoved on it as well.
In that case using iMessage with RCS in the background will be the exact same for you as using iMessage with SMS in the background. You won't be using any of the benefits so it will work just like SMS.
 
No one have told me why it is better? I have asked this for a couple of years and still not got a decent answer. So you can share media at higher resolution, not interested, just gives people an excuse to send rubbish, get enough over Faceache messenger. Emojis, again, not interested. Read receipts and typing indicators, again, not interested, not needed, I don't want people to know I am active and typing a message.

See, herein lies the problem. You ask how it is better, and then outline how you do not want the features that it adds to make the experience better.

Your argument is, for all intents and purposes, "I don't like it." And that's fine, you're allowed to not like it, but just say that upfront. Save us both the trouble, from the back and forth you yourself admitted to disliking.

If they really want to send them to me, then do so by email like we used to, everyone has email I presume, well they do on Android phones as they normally have a Google account so get a Gmail account, I presume they get something from an Apple ID account as well.

At that point, might as well ask them to print and post them to you. Technology is about balancing capability and convenience, if you take the convenience out, there's no point in it for most people.
 
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In that case using iMessage with RCS in the background will be the exact same for you as using iMessage with SMS in the background. You won't be using any of the benefits so it will work just like SMS.
True, not that I am likely to get an iPhone. I did think about it for a couple of weeks after I got my Mac, because of the integration, but the prices put me off, and then I thought why do I need to integrate my phone and computer? Never did it on my PC
the reason I got a Mac mini is that it is a smaller, quieter machine, which is still pretty powerful and yet use less energy. I also did not like the way Microsoft is going with Windows and after 20 odd years of using Windows, decided it was time for a change.
 
See, herein lies the problem. You ask how it is better, and then outline how you do not want the features that it adds to make the experience better.

Your argument is, for all intents and purposes, "I don't like it." And that's fine, you're allowed to not like it, but just say that upfront. Save us both the trouble, from the back and forth you yourself admitted to disliking.



At that point, might as well ask them to print and post them to you. Technology is about balancing capability and convenience, if you take the convenience out, there's no point in it for most people.
I don't remember saying I don't like it, I said I don't require it, I have no need for it, SMS does what I need. I must admit I don't like google messages app and as far as I know that is the only messaging app on Android that supports RCS anyway apart from maybe Samsung's own. But my phone is a cheap and cheerful Oppo.

As I have said before, all I want from a messaging service is to send and receive messages.

Sending a photo via email is quicker than post, also, cheaper and still keeps it in the original digital format, do RCS do that? I bet RCS don't support RAW photo format.
 
I don't remember saying I don't like it
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So you can share media at higher resolution, not interested, just gives people an excuse to send rubbish
Emojis, again, not interested
Read receipts and typing indicators, again, not interested, not needed, I don't want people to know I am active and typing a message.
This is your list of features that you do not like. Not sure what the confusion is.

Why does a thread about iOS updates always devolve into one about either RCS or AI, anyways? Why can't we all speculate about UI changes that'll never happen?
 
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This is your list of features that you do not like. Not sure what the confusion is.

Why does a thread about iOS updates always devolve into one about either RCS or AI, anyways? Why can't we all speculate about UI changes that'll never happen?
Not interested and not required is different from not liking, but I do admit, I hate emojis.

Thankfully, RCS is not forced onto people, even Googles on messages app have a way of disabling it. Still many phones out there that don't use apps, I know a few people myself who have a non-smart phone. One of them is still using a nokia 3310 and another is using a phone that cost around £24, the problem these days is findning a provider who will offer just voice and text for a decent price, most of the time these people have to get a sim with data attached just to get a decent price and never use the data.




The reason why this ended up being about AI is because the title is about AI,

These 10 New AI Features Are Coming in iOS 18​


But the original article had MacOs 15 in, which is why I posted. Not sure why RCS came into it.

I posted to say I don't want AI on my Mac and will stay on macOS 14 if they pushed AI on MacOS 15, but we will see if the M2 pro chip will be support the AI stuff.
Phone wise I expect I will keep my Opp for as long as it carry working, it still gets security updates now and again, but I doubt it will ever get feature updates again, so no chance of AI stuff being pushed onto it.
When it goes belly up, I will look at my options and also what my saturation is at the time, at the moment I am working, so I can afford to pay more for a phone and even get a Iphone, but I have said to myself over the last few years, what is the point?
I need a phone to chat to people, browse the net, text, maybe take the odd photo or video, I have better cameras than any phone. Use apps to do things and that is it. How would paying £400 minimum for an Iphone or even that price for an Android phone improve any of the stuff I do above, compared to my £120 odd phone?

Also, if I lost, dropped or broke a £400 phone I would not be happy, while doing the same thing to a £120 phone would not be great, at least it is a lot cheaper.
When I see the price of the latest Iphone being over £1300, I think are people really that crazy to pay that much for a phone? I know some people get it in a package, but they still must be paying stupid money every month.

It is not just Iphones at these silly prices, I have seen Samsung phone as well and an honor folding phone at nearly two grand.
I have seen how these folding phones end, and it is not good, my Nephew has or had a Samsung one, not even 18 months, and it started to fail, it would not fold out flat.
My favourite smartphone was my old Huawei p10 lite, small and worked well, just a shame the battery started to fail and also the USB socket would not hold the plug in, but the phone was over 4 years old.

Hoping me Oppo will last as long if not longer, 6-7 years if possible.
 
Except that Apple in the past has done exactly what the person you quoted said they did.

Apple claiming credit for "inventing" multitouch:

Oops: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-touch
Context is important.

Between 1999 and 2005, the company Fingerworks developed various multi-touch technologies, including Touchstream keyboards and the iGesture Pad. in the early 2000s Alan Hedge, professor of human factors and ergonomics at Cornell University published several studies about this technology.[35][36][37] In 2005, Apple acquired Fingerworks and its multi-touch technology.[38]

In January 2007, multi-touch technology became mainstream with the iPhone, and in its iPhone announcement Apple even stated it "invented multi touch",[41] however both the function and the term predate the announcement or patent requests, except for the area of capacitive mobile screens, which did not exist before Fingerworks/Apple's technology (Fingerworks filed patents in 2001–2005,[42] subsequent multi-touch refinements were patented by Apple[43]).

TLDR: So, Apple acquired Fingerworks – the company that invented touchscreen-based keyboards. And Apple certainly popularised it.
 
I'm not bothered, I'm laughing at how bothered you seem to be over it. Like, I'm legitimately trying to understand what has you riled up like this, it's incoherent. Telling your friends not to use it too? There either has to be some bizarre belief or you're just messing around.
I'm not riled up by anything. Much like I got my friends and family to stop using Google or chrome, I have thankfully got most of them off Android and into iOS ecosystem.

There's no hidden agenda. Most iOS users don't care about rcs because we have iMessage and sms works just fine. It's 2024. Most ppl use cross platform messaging.

There is no benefit for me and most iOS users for rcs. This is a benefit for lagdroid fans who created this green bubble inferiority complex
 
When did I deem it perfect? RCS is at least encrypted and allows some imessage features vs SMS messaging is a lot more vulnerable. Benefits you as much as any Andriod user but you do you.
I don't care about encryption because I'm not sending anything I'm overly concerned about privacy. Sms works just fine alongside Imesssage. So no there is no benefit.

Google wanted all network providers to have their own RCS system, reading between the lines Google only started their own servers up when network providers did not take RCS on board. I presume Vodafone in the U.K must be paying Google to host the service.
I realise that security is important for a lot of people, including myself, but I would not use a text service by any provider to send something I would class as important. 99% of the text I send and receive is about meeting someone for a coffee or a drink. Any files I need to send to people that are really important are sent by email encrypted, but to be honest, that is very few and far between. so for me and to be honest for most people, SMS is fine. The only reason people will prefer RCS is because of the junk they can send across to people and the can see that you are typing and that you saw my message rubbish, which I would disable.
Exactly! Perfectly said.

Android fans/rcs fans seem to be unable to understand that most of us don't care about rcs
 
I use suggested replies quite often, it’s not a cringe thing, it’s a time saver.
I use what they call smart reply on my phone, the same sort of thing, it gives me suggestions that I can choose to use or not. That sort of thing have been around for years, remember predicted text? Even on computers now, my Mac comes up with words or to use in place of ones I used or tell me I spelt something wrong
 
I'm not riled up by anything. Much like I got my friends and family to stop using Google or chrome, I have thankfully got most of them off Android and into iOS ecosystem.

There's no hidden agenda. Most iOS users don't care about rcs because we have iMessage and sms works just fine. It's 2024. Most ppl use cross platform messaging.

There is no benefit for me and most iOS users for rcs. This is a benefit for lagdroid fans who created this green bubble inferiority complex
lagdroid? You are out of date, androd is pretty fast now, even on my cheap phone. I used to have a HTC wildfire and yes it was lagdroid then, but these days, Android is as responsive as IOS.
Some of the apps on my phone can be a bit slow coming up, but still milliseconds, but as I said my phone was a budget model. i have seen more expesnive Android phones open apps very quckly.

I don't get this thing to get people off Android? I know people who use Android and Iphones, and it makes no odds to me. Just like I know people who own Macs and other who own PCs and some that owns both. I know one person who uses Linux and nothing else.

I suppose if someone using an Iphone wnat to send photos to someone using an Android based phone, then RCS may be of use to them, no third party app, just what is built into the phone.

The problem with a lot of Apple users is that they are stuck in their own ecosystem and forget that there are other platforms out there and if they want to communicate with people on those other platforms then now, and again they have to come out of the Apple ecosystem. Myself i don't get pulled into this ecosystem stuff, I have a Mac mini, that i use for computer stuff, browsing the wed, editing videos, photos, doing some office style stuff, emailing and normal stuff people do on a computer these days. I got it because it is a nice energy efficient machine and pretty powerful, and I wanted a change.
I also use an Android phone, to do things you normally do with smartphones these days, chat to people, send emails if i really have to, send SMS, look on the net if I really have to. Use some apps for various things. Not bothered that it don't link up with my Mac, in fact I am happy it don't. I am not a fan of this need an account for stuff, don't have a MS account for my windows based PC and only use my Apple ID account to install apps.
The only reason I have a Google account is that my phone will not keep the contacts names if I don't and some things will not work,
 
I don't care about encryption because I'm not sending anything I'm overly concerned about privacy. Sms works just fine alongside Imesssage. So no there is no benefit.


Exactly! Perfectly said.

Android fans/rcs fans seem to be unable to understand that most of us don't care about rcs
I use an Android phone and I don't care about RCS, but as I said in ther post above, it is one way that Android users and Iphone users can send photos and other stuff to each other without third party software/apps if that is what they want.
 
So many useless features. An absolute disappontment.

But this is just a start... Let's see what the future brings.
 
So many useless features. An absolute disappontment.

But this is just a start... Let's see what the future brings.
Sadly that is the way things are going. So far at least with my Mac a lot of stuff i don't want I can disable or get rid of.
 
Which means they are in the sidelines watching the bubble and all the stupid mistakes and errors and horror stories.

That’s called being mature and responsible.

They have always let their competitors push out garbage product and then come from behind like a ninja with better moves.
Yeah, keep thinking that while Apple keep bleeding you dry.....very sad.....
 
They've been busy working on the vision pro and privacy.🤣 Why work on the next great thing when you know users are locked in and will blindly buy your next product. Free iOS updates aren't cheap.
Amazing how many once great companies thought that......
 
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