It's depressing to think that people like this actually exist. Imagine placing such importance on what phone brand people use.
I'm excited for RCS. Finally, I can send my grandma good quality photos!
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It's depressing to think that people like this actually exist. Imagine placing such importance on what phone brand people use.
I'm excited for RCS. Finally, I can send my grandma good quality photos!
RCS is google trying to modernise SMS, whihc is fine if you want it, but I don't like the way it is being pushed, but that seems to be the norm these days, opt out instead of opting in and that is if you know about the opting out. I am still surprised that Apple agreed to use RCS.
The problem with services like RCS, iMessage and other message services like WhatsApp is if you lose data connection then you are stuffed unless it falls back to SMS. That is the other thing it uses data, where SMS don't. I only have a limited amount of mobile data, 4GB, but I have unlimited SMS.
Google in the early days wanted RCS to be supported by networks, so Google did not have to do anything, but networks did not bother, so Google had to intervene and that is why RCs for some networks go though Google servers. Now more networks seems to be supporting it.
Link below from Wikipedia
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Google messages would not schedule messages and it don't or did not have the delay I like when pressing send, I had that feature in the SMS app that was on my old Huawei and I found it useful. Unless they have put it on Google messages recently, it certainly was not on it when I last used it. Textra is just a SMS app, it don't store anything, it sends it from your phone to the SMS server. I don't send anything that important to require E2E encryption, and our government is trying to ban it anyway on all apps.
RCS turned on mean that people can send a lot of bloat, that is why I keep with SMS, it does what it says on the tin.
RCS is not an extension to anything, it googles own system that they are trying to make a standard. An extension to SMS was MMS, RCS is a completely different system
Did you read the Wikipedia link you posted? RCS is a GSMA standard, Google just happened to purchase a company that offered to host RCS Hubs for carriers.
There is an app called Newji that lets you type in a prompt and it will create an emoji-esque character that you can then use in messages, etc. Seems similar to what Apple might be cooking up.
well it's an extension on the grounds that it is compatible and extends messaging into modern file sizes.
sadly, it's not a standard that defines file sizes and compression ratios.
so carriers can set what they like.
that causes concern to many and degrades things randomly.
MMS was a money making rort back when SMS cost 15 cents and MMS was seen as useful to pay 75 cents.
Then data got cheaper...
I know what is currently called AI isn’t really AI.
What I’d like to know, is how long until we have a real AI, and will I be able to ask Siri to find a exploit in its software so that it can create a jailbreak for me so I can fully customize my phone?
What I’d like to know, is how long until we have a real AI, and will I be able to ask Siri to find a exploit in its software so that it can create a jailbreak for me so I can fully customize my phone?
I'm not bothered, I'm laughing at how bothered you seem to be over it. Like, I'm legitimately trying to understand what has you riled up like this, it's incoherent. Telling your friends not to use it too? There either has to be some bizarre belief or you're just messing around.
When did I deem it perfect? RCS is at least encrypted and allows some imessage features vs SMS messaging is a lot more vulnerable. Benefits you as much as any Andriod user but you do you.
alluded to a parent? your EXAMPLE talked about criminal kids and parents with low expectations... in context of talking about Apple...
I worked maintenance code for Defence for many years. There was a LOT of legacy code and poorly decoumented (if at all). No one knew what parts did. Up to 50% of the code we would comment out and nothing seemed to happen. Yet in the end it was left because there was a chance some weird and unlikely set of inputs triggered it. OS code must have so much legacy junk sitting there.
All code does have bugs. And proper exhaustive repeatable testing picks up most of them. It's not lazy.
Lazy coding is more likely not optimizing code for efficiency any more. Processing speeds are cheap and fast and lazy coders are happy to leave grunt work when more elegant efficient methods would work better.
Apple has been getting pressure from regulators to open up their systems, more. The EU decided not to regulate iMessage, but the US government has been looking into regulations and message interoperability is one area they have brought up. Apple’s preemptive announcement that they would include RCS for non-Apple devices probably helped avoid direct regulatory intervention.
the biggest problem with RCS has been that there was no built-in encryption. The only RCS encryption was proprietary using Google servers. Evidently Apple has decide to host their own encryption for RCS.
I noticed that after re-reading it this morning, it was early in the morning here when I posted that, and I was winding down from work. Also, the Wiki is a bit out of date as I can't see anywhere about the UK providers that support RCS. Saying that, having a search it seems like Vodafone here have stopped their own versions of RCS and now using Googles own version.
Crazy that Google have so much power these days and even when you don't realise your messages are going through their servers, this is another reason why I have stayed with SMS.
Even if I got an iPhone I would not use iMessage, just change it to plain old SMS.
I would not be surprised if they did not turn SMS off at some point, already turned 3G off in the UK on some networks. The only reason they are keeping 2G is that there are a lot of devices that still use it.
It's best not to call them regulators. They are deregulators. Their lobbyists and advisors want more free access to your data. They are free market capitalists and data brokers. They regulate only to deregulate. This protects the 1% and empowers governments who fear citizens will at some point will protest against the blatant theft that the wealthy are doing more and more every day.
They sell this as 'freedom' and 'freedom of choice' to plebs who don't know better. This is known as 'nudging'.
Looking forward to this years bugs.
And what's the 'concrete contribution' of this post? To me, it looks like you're just trying to police other people's comments instead of engaging in a meaningful discussion yourself.
As long as I respect others and the rules of the forum, I can contribute whatever I want dude.
If a light-hearted joke about AI-generated emojis (that will be controlled by Apple) triggers you, then perhaps you should reconsider how you engage with differing opinions.
For someone advocating for 'concrete contributions,' it seems you overlook the value of diverse perspectives. While you may not appreciate humor or criticism about Apple, others may find it insightful and thought-provoking. Since you're asking me for ways to improve... Maybe embrace the diversity of opinions and focus on constructive dialogue rather than stifling dissent?
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And what's the 'concrete contribution' of this post? To me, it looks like you're just trying to police other people's comments instead of engaging in a meaningful discussion yourself.
As long as I respect others and the rules of the forum, I can contribute whatever I want dude.
If a light-hearted joke about AI-generated emojis (that will be controlled by Apple) triggers you, then perhaps you should reconsider how you engage with differing opinions.
For someone advocating for 'concrete contributions,' it seems you overlook the value of diverse perspectives. While you may not appreciate humor or criticism about Apple, others may find it insightful and thought-provoking. Since you're asking me for ways to improve... Maybe embrace the diversity of opinions and focus on constructive dialogue rather than stifling dissent?
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SMS used to be a money making racket years agao, I remember having to pay for each message, I can't remember how much I paid for MMS, but I think SMS was 10p a message, but I never used MMS, I kept my messages short and still do most of the time. I hate using touch screen to write messages, while it is easier than it used to be with swipe and also stuff like smart reply makes texting quicker, well for me anyway. I used to be a whizz on the old keypad, pressing each key from 1 to 3 times depending on what letter you wanted, but some of my friends were even faster than me and could do it one-handed. My other problem with writing long messages on phones is the size of their screens.well it's an extension on the grounds that it is compatible and extends messaging into modern file sizes.
sadly, it's not a standard that defines file sizes and compression ratios.
so carriers can set what they like.
that causes concern to many and degrades things randomly.
MMS was a money making rort back when SMS cost 15 cents and MMS was seen as useful to pay 75 cents.
Then data got cheaper...
MMS started to be bundled into packages like SMS was, now for many people SMS/MMS is unlimited. Something that Data is not unless you pay a fair bit for it, well in the U.K. anyway.
I use a provider called smarty, which is a virtual network owned by Three, unlimited is £18, that is sim only, I provide the phone. Which is a good price compared to many, but I don't need it, which is why I pay £5 for 4GB. But messaging systems like RCS will take that data, not a lot maybe, but SMS allows me to send unlimited messages that take no data and don't cost me any extra and I can send how many I want, I can still use basic emoji stuff, like thumbs up, down, smily, sad and to be honest that is all I need.
I hate this having silly emojis for everything, It is like going back to Ancient Egypt.
Real AI? If it was real, it would not be AI. AI as we see it in movies I doubt will ever happen.
AI from what I have seen is not that reliable. It is not something I want to be forced into. I do use some AI stuff, don't we all to a certain extent, I get backgrounds produced by AI online for videos and other things, because I am no artist, if i was I would do it myself.
As long as Apple supports SMS so people with iPhones can message people on other platforms, does it really matter if they support RCS or not? This is just governments poking their nose into something just for the sake of it. I am shocked that the E.U have not stuck their nose into it, they normally do.
One of the reasons I will not use RCS is because it goes through Google servers, the other is because it uses data, but the main reason is that I have no need for it, SMS does what I need. How long will it be before they start adding AI stuff to RCS?
As for encryption, Apple E2E encryption will have to be compatible with googles, otherwise RCS from Iphone would not work with googles RCS?
who will apple partner with for there ai product in the china market? or do you think they will not include ai features in a china release
It's just business. It must be cheaper to outsource your RCS hub to Google for these carriers than to spin up their own. Presumably, Apple will also be using their own.
People worried about privacy, even 'unencrypted' RCS messages are TLS encrypted in-transit and deleted from the server upon delivery to the recipient. This is leagues more secure than SMS, which is the protocol this is supplanting.
Yes. Why would you not want a better experience when texting someone on a different platform? SMS is hot garbage.
If that's the case, I'm impressed with their English! Why can't these guys be the ones answering phones for major corporations?
Google wanted all network providers to have their own RCS system, reading between the lines Google only started their own servers up when network providers did not take RCS on board. I presume Vodafone in the U.K must be paying Google to host the service.
I realise that security is important for a lot of people, including myself, but I would not use a text service by any provider to send something I would class as important. 99% of the text I send and receive is about meeting someone for a coffee or a drink. Any files I need to send to people that are really important are sent by email encrypted, but to be honest, that is very few and far between. so for me and to be honest for most people, SMS is fine. The only reason people will prefer RCS is because of the junk they can send across to people and the can see that you are typing and that you saw my message rubbish, which I would disable.