Many valid points. Moreover, Apple Fitness+ is not available worldwide. Apple News+ is in how many countries? Four maybe? Apple Card is US only thing I think. Those products are far from perfect. But also they are limiting their potential themselves...
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Report: TV+ Losing $1 Billion Annually as Apple Services Falter
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The only reason I have ATV+ is because it’s included with a student Apple Music subscription. Otherwise, I would only subscribe to ATV+ to binge a few shows/movies (Severance, Ted Lasso) and then cancel.
I have no interest in Apple Fitness and Apple Arcade, so it’s not surprising subscriber numbers are low for both.
I have no interest in Apple Fitness and Apple Arcade, so it’s not surprising subscriber numbers are low for both.
Oh I know ALL about it
And it's not how business should work
They've built it all up with investor money funding things that aren't profitable in hopes of putting competitors out of business and then "owning" markets
It should be illegal
I agree. Having a physical device with a nearly identical name for a streaming service was a bad idea. So many think you need to buy an Apple TV to watch Apple TV.
A service wth the name “Apple“ in it can only survive inside of Apples wallet garden. As soon as it faces competition, it is dead. But Apples universe is too small for streaming or music services, since you need every customer you can get to make a dollar.
Times are tough right now, and people are severing or pausing subscriptions. TV+ just doesn't have enough content to compete; they need to either go all-in with TV+ or quit complaining. It seems like TV+ has always been a write off... a half-hearted trojan horse strategy for attracting people to the Apple infrastructure of products. Most of the content they do have is quality, but it's just not enough.
Sometimes businesses will have divisions that are loss making. But the key thing to remember is that sometimes you have to look at the whole, bigger picture. Sometimes it’s better to offer a whole set of services, even if some don’t perform well. As sometimes the whole set of services keeps customers loyal and in a particular ecosystem.
The news about Apple Music doesn’t surprise
Universal Music Group hinted that only Spotify and Youtube were really growing in the music streaming space last year.
I switched over to AM last year because my gf prefers it, it’s a long way behind Spotify in everything other than the sound quality.
The iOS app crashes more than any other app i’ve ever used on an iPhone, the desktop app remains a dumpster fire and the general ux of the app is very poor.
The biggest mistake they made was trying to shoehorn the local library management stuff in with the steaming service. They should’ve kept itunes around for those who want that and built a streaming app for AM from the ground up.
It’s a shame, it feels like they’ve just ceded this market to Spotify. That is problematic for the music industry and for artists.
Universal Music Group hinted that only Spotify and Youtube were really growing in the music streaming space last year.
I switched over to AM last year because my gf prefers it, it’s a long way behind Spotify in everything other than the sound quality.
The iOS app crashes more than any other app i’ve ever used on an iPhone, the desktop app remains a dumpster fire and the general ux of the app is very poor.
The biggest mistake they made was trying to shoehorn the local library management stuff in with the steaming service. They should’ve kept itunes around for those who want that and built a streaming app for AM from the ground up.
It’s a shame, it feels like they’ve just ceded this market to Spotify. That is problematic for the music industry and for artists.
Ok, hurry up, call Apple, Netflix, Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, Meta, Alphabet and all the others and let them know how business should work, since you know and they don't.
Now, I'm not saying it shouldn't be illegal, I'm saying that's how it works and since it does and, in many case, it seems to ultimately be profitable to allow some losses somewhere sometimes...
Meh. I never paid for iCloud storage and never will. Its free and easy to back everything up to local storage.
They have many great shows on there. Shows that I love.
Apple might be losing money on that particular service, but I reckon it helps keeping folks in the ecosystem, and maybe even draw a few folks into Apples other products and thereby it helps making money.
Apple might be losing money on that particular service, but I reckon it helps keeping folks in the ecosystem, and maybe even draw a few folks into Apples other products and thereby it helps making money.
Much as I think the series is fantastic, 200M per episode of Severance will do that to your bottom line....
Streaming services like Netflix and Prime have been successful in part because they’ve starting producing a lot more local content, as in content not from America and not in English.
You mean like literally every other streaming service out there? I'd say on Netflix, the ratio is more like 20 to 1.
They can also purchase Skydance Media and Paramount Global or Warner Bros. Discovery and Legendary Entertainment for companies with more experience with premium content creation and streaming services.
Hardly surprising, given Apple has historically been a technology company. I can’t even think of a reason why they got into the streaming game when there’s already so much content out there.
My thing is the amount of content, most of the originals are good but that is basically all you get. Apple should make a play for Paramount, it is on the market and would give them a huge library including Star Trek.