Reports Conflict on iPhone 11 Pro Models Having 4GB or 6GB of RAM

[MrUNIMOG]

You're absolutely right. I was using a 6S till a few weeks ago and now I'm using the 6 till I get a new phone. There is a perceptible lag in the 6, it is downright slow at times and frustrating. But then I remind myself that it is over 5 years old too.

Whereas the 6S was a breeze to use and I hardly ever noticed any lag on it.

Have you tried a clean install on the 6, and have you checked the battery?
An iPhone 6 shouldn't be frustrating to use on iOS 12.4.1, even the 5s isn't. If anything, the Plus model might perform a little worse than the 5s due to its much larger (rendered) resolution, but the regular 6 should be fine.

Of course the 6s performing way better than the 6 is to be expected, but the difference shouldn't be quite like frustrating vs. a breeze.

 

[digthewell]

Have you tried a clean install on the 6, and have you checked the battery?
An iPhone 6 shouldn't be frustrating to use on iOS 12.4.1, even the 5s isn't. If anything, the Plus model might perform a little worse than the 5s due to its much larger (rendered) resolution, but the regular 6 should be fine.

Of course the 6s performing way better than the 6 is to be expected, but the difference shouldn't be quite like frustrating vs. a breeze.

You're probably right. I did a clean install say about a month or so ago when I sold off my 6S. I think the battery is probably suspect, it's at 85% health so maybe the iOS is throttling the performance.

 

[MrUNIMOG]

You're probably right. I did a clean install say about a month or so ago when I sold off my 6S. I think the battery is probably suspect, it's at 85% health so maybe the iOS is throttling the performance.

What does it say in the settings about "peak performance capability"?

 

[GuruZac]

The crazy thing with this performance is that an iOS device with 3GB of RAM or more and an A10X/A11 chip and above should be an excellent performer til 2021, perhaps later. The performance of the A series chips is getting ridiculously ahead of everyone else and seems almost extreme overkill for what the iPhone can do at this point.

 

[winterny]

You're absolutely right. I was using a 6S till a few weeks ago and now I'm using the 6 till I get a new phone. There is a perceptible lag in the 6, it is downright slow at times and frustrating. But then I remind myself that it is over 5 years old too.

Whereas the 6S was a breeze to use and I hardly ever noticed any lag on it.

IMHO, the main problem with the 6 Plus was that the CPU/GPU was not capable of driving a screen that large.

But, the middle ground answer is that the 6 Plus was underpowered in every way -- CPU, GPU, and RAM.

The 6S+ was a large improvement in all three metrics.
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The crazy thing with this performance is that an iOS device with 3GB of RAM or more and an A10X/A11 chip and above should be an excellent performer til 2021, perhaps later. The performance of the A series chips is getting ridiculously ahead of everyone else and seems almost extreme overkill for what the iPhone can do at this point.

Agreed, the CPU performance of the iPhone since X has really been overkill based on any current task... It looks like Apple is starting to try and invent new use cases in order to utilize all that extra power (eg: 11 Pro can run all cameras simultaneously).

 

[I7guy]

IMHO, the main problem with the 6 Plus was that the CPU/GPU was not capable of driving a screen that large.

But, the middle ground answer is that the 6 Plus was underpowered in every way -- CPU, GPU, and RAM.

The 6S+ was a large improvement in all three metrics.
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Agreed, the CPU performance of the iPhone since X has really been overkill based on any current task... It looks like Apple is starting to try and invent new use cases in order to utilize all that extra power (eg: 11 Pro can run all cameras simultaneously).

Software lags hardware. I can’t wait to see what innovative apps use all three cameras simultaneously.

 

[tigress666]

The correct answer is, yes giving people 64gb on an $1100 phone is ridiculous, but no a lot of people cannot just drop the ecosystem, and Apple knows that, and so they will get away with it.

This guy gets it. I’m one of this rare people who won’t just drop the ecosystem but 64 gbs is ridiculous especially for a 1000 dollar phone. My five year old iPhone 6 has more and yeah it was top end model at the time but that was *5* years ago!

But apple has always been ridiculous about this and people were complaining then about how little storage you got so obviously it doesn’t hurt apple to do this as they would have changed by now If it did. I’d venture to say it’s a very successful strategy for them and no amount of complaining is going to change a company’s actions if the actions still work to get money. So either you get everyone to stop buying apple products til they change or you deal with it if you want an apple product or you buy soMething else. Good luck with the first option, the other two are the more realistic choices.

 

[Protozo]

Finally all the benchmarks appears 4gb, seems that oneleaks whas not right with the informartion of 6gb

 

[winterny]

Software lags hardware. I can’t wait to see what innovative apps use all three cameras simultaneously.

I agree that in the longer run, we will likely start seeing some impressive software that takes advantage of these more powerful CPUs -- but we haven't really seen it /yet/.

It also isn't always the case that software has lagged hardware. Today, most users would not notice much of a difference in speed between iPhone X, XS, or 11 Pro.

In the past, almost anyone would have noticed that an iPhone 4 was *MUCH* faster than an iPhone 3G. We are clearly in a different paradigm now.

 

[The Game 161]

Finally all the benchmarks appears 4gb, seems that oneleaks whas not right with the informartion of 6gb

It’s not been confirmed yet at all. Those benchmarks might not be right.

 

[mi7chy]

My bet is on 4GB. Apple has historically gone four generations of iPhones (5, 5S, 5C, 6) with the same DRAM size so it's premature for a bump. Plus, Apple, especially under Tim "Maximum Profit" Cook leadership, doesn't give you everything at once otherwise you'd have no reason to upgrade every year. This is the year of tri camera sensor so same DRAM. May happen in 2020 unless postponed by reverse wireless charging, in-screen Touch ID, etc.

 

[MrUNIMOG]

My bet is on 4GB. Apple has historically gone four generations of iPhones (5, 5S, 5C, 6) with the same DRAM size so it's premature for a bump. Plus, Apple, especially under Tim "Maximum Profit" Cook leadership, doesn't give you everything at once otherwise you'd have no reason to upgrade every year. This is the year of tri camera sensor so same DRAM. May happen in 2020 unless postponed by reverse wireless charging, in-screen Touch ID, etc.

iPhone and 3G: 128 MB
3G: 256 MB
4 and 4s: 512 MB
5, 5s, 6: 1 GB (5c is not a generation of its own)
6s, 7, 8: 2 GB
7+, 8+/X, XR: 3 GB
XS: 4 GB

iPhone's RAM history hasn't really been all that predictable.
Hard to infer from that whether another bump is "premature" or not.

However I agree that 6 GB seems unlikely at this point.

 

[Thrutheroofnunderground]

So fair is forcing people to pay for more storage even if 64 GB is more than enough. Apple isn't GIVING people anything. They are SELLING a product. Why do people somehow feel Apple is a charity.

Because they’re competitors do it? Seems a reasonable reason. Because Samsung’s flagship base storage is becoming 4x more than 64GB for $150 less?

 

[russell_314]

Because they’re competitors do it? Seems a reasonable reason. Because Samsung’s flagship base storage is becoming 4x more than 64GB for $150 less?

A completely different product. That's like saying because Chevrolet includes heated seats as standard on their Camero so Ford should do the same on their Mustang. Yes both are two door sports cars that directly compete with each other but Chevrolet might have put more money into the seats while Ford put the money somewhere else. Either way no one looking at a Mustang or Camero will buy the other one because heated seats are optional.

The only argument would be if Apple somehow needed to make their phone directly to Samsung customers. The problem is if someone is getting a Note 10+ instead of a iPhone 11 Pro Max they're not doing so because of the base storage is more. The OS is going to be the major factor unless one lacks a needed feature for the user. I don't mean it's not optional but lacks as in it's not possible, can't get it, don't even think about it.

 

[ZebraDude]

 

[EugW]

Not surprisingly, 4 GB has been confirmed.

1. All of the benchmarks say 4 GB.

2. Xcode says 4 GB.

3. Apple's regulatory filings in China say 4 GB.

4. iFixit's teardown of the Pros reveal a memory chip product number that confirms 4 GB (without any extra RAM anywhere else). In fact, AFAIK there is no available 6 GB version of that specific memory chip line used in the iPhone Pros. They max out at 4 GB per chip right now. (In the iPad Pros, they use 2 chips, even for the 4 GB models, so theoretically it would be very easy to spec an iPad Pro with up to 8 GB RAM without changing the logic board design.)