Reports Conflict on iPhone 11 Pro Models Having 4GB or 6GB of RAM

[Aston441]

I took a ride in my buddy’s McLaren 600LT and I feel Britain’s sportscar industry is alive and well. Holy **** that car was fast an I worked at Porsche for 7 years so appreciate performance.

i get that, but there was a time when an everyday joe could afford a light

I took a ride in my buddy’s McLaren 600LT and I feel Britain’s sportscar industry is alive and well. Holy **** that car was fast an I worked at Porsche for 7 years so appreciate performance.

a mid 60s Austin Healey 3000 was $2500, something an everyday working man could buy if he wanted a light, tight fast handling true sports car of the day.

What's comperable today? Miata? bleh. The Lotus Elise was close when it first came out.

The Mclaren? Not so much at $250,000. The Loti have priced themselves out of reach of the common man as well, and they're not even really available in the states anyway.

Jaguar has become overpriced Indian weirdness.

Triumph, Austin, Jensen, Morgan (yes I know they still exist), Sunbeam, AC, MG, etc, etc, etc all gone. It's heartbreaking really.

There's nothing left that a regular guy can pick up that isn't a pig. Yes there are plenty of fast non-british pigs, but they're all still pigs, Mustang/Camero/Challenger are nauseating.

The Honda 2000 was the last true everyday every man's sports car available in the US.

 

[berrymetal]

I swear to god, if it will turn out that only 256/512GB models will have more RAM I'm buying Note 10+.

Nooooo please no don’t leave!

 

[russell_314]

Nooooo please no don’t leave!

He'll still be in the forums telling us how awesome his new Note is though.

 

[Xian Zhu Xuande]

Be serious now. Uncomfortable looking Phil's "trying to put lipstick on a pig" never ending marketing discussion during the keynote was far from being more focussed.

"Trying to put lipstick on a pig" is rather an opinion. I don't think Apple missed the mark this time around in terms of product releases. But I'm also not sure what product you're referring to.

 

[Falhófnir]

AnTuTu results suggest all models have 4GB. Makes sense, given the phones don't have significant multitasking features anyway so will really only be running a single app at once.

https://www.gsmarena.com/all_new_iphones_have_4gb_of_ram_antutu_listings_reveal-news-39173.php

 

[realtuner]

Apple's processors are fantastic. That just makes it even more annoying that they cripple their devices with an abysmal OS and anaemic RAM.

We know the real reason you pivoted to a feature (side-by-side Apps) instead of talking about high performance Apps (which is what I asked for and is relevant because this thread is about performance).

It's because that last time you attempted to come up with a list you failed spectacularly by including Instagram style Apps and posited they were in the same league as Apps like Affinity or Pixelmator. That and two Apps on your list were either dis-continued or superceded by new Apps (which means you never actually used them - you just pulled them off a list somewhere).

 

[Khedron]

We know the real reason you pivoted to a feature (side-by-side Apps) instead of talking about high performance Apps (which is what I asked for and is relevant because this thread is about performance).

It's because that last time you attempted to come up with a list you failed spectacularly by including Instagram style Apps and posited they were in the same league as Apps like Affinity or Pixelmator. That and two Apps on your list were either dis-continued or superceded by new Apps (which means you never actually used them - you just pulled them off a list somewhere).

There is statistically zero market for high performance apps on a phone. Despite Apple's lies, there's no such thing as a "Pro" phone.

We all know the reason why you want to define "performance" in terms of theoretical benchmarks and arbitrary tests. Because in the real world Android is simply faster.

 

[realtuner]

There is statistically zero market for high performance apps on a phone. Despite Apple's lies, there's no such thing as a "Pro" phone.

We all know the reason why you want to define "performance" in terms of theoretical benchmarks and arbitrary tests. Because in the real world Android is simply faster.

More lies. First lie: Android is faster. Easily verifiable as false through regimented testing. Second lie: I never once tried to define performance by benchmarks.

In fact, I'm the one who asked for others to list some real-world Apps that would stress a processor to see which performed better. I started off with a quote from Tom's Guide about rendering a 4K video in Adobe Rush and followed it up by asking for other Apps. That's when you pivoted to running Twitter and Maps side-by-side while the other poster simply left the thread and never bothered to list any Apps.

My record is 100%. I call people out to list demanding Apps so we can test performance between an Android phone and iPhone. Nobody bothers to accept the challenge.

 

[Khedron]

More lies. First lie: Android is faster. Easily verifiable as false through regimented testing. Second lie: I never once tried to define performance by benchmarks.

In fact, I'm the one who asked for others to list some real-world Apps that would stress a processor to see which performed better. I started off with a quote from Tom's Guide about rendering a 4K video in Adobe Rush and followed it up by asking for other Apps. That's when you pivoted to running Twitter and Maps side-by-side while the other poster simply left the thread and never bothered to list any Apps.

My record is 100%. I call people out to list demanding Apps so we can test performance between an Android phone and iPhone. Nobody bothers to accept the challenge.

You're trying to convince people that rendering 4k movies is more representative of real world phone use than having a map and a social media program open simultaneously. Good luck.

Just to be clear, you refused my test because you know iOS is incapable of multitasking. Android is infinitely faster because iOS simply cannot do it at all.

 

[realtuner]

You're trying to convince people that rendering 4k movies is more representative of real world phone use than having a map and a social media program open simultaneously. Good luck.

Just to be clear, you refused my test because you know iOS is incapable of multitasking. Android is infinitely faster because iOS simply cannot do it at all.

Still deflecting. All you have to do is list some Apps I can run on my various Android devices and iPhones. Then we can see which ones perform better. But we both know you won't. Hence the continue deflection/pivoting.

iOS can't multitask? Tell that to musicians who run multiple audio Apps together in real time. Something that's literally 100% impossible in Android.

 

[Expos of 1969]

A friendly message to fellow posters realtuner and Kehdron:

...don't you guys get tired with all the back and forth? It is Friday, life is short, have a beer or glass of wine, see friends, listen to some good music. We all have varying opinions and this is only tech tools being discussed. Enjoy the upcoming weekend!

 

[Khedron]

Still deflecting. All you have to do is list some Apps I can run on my various Android devices and iPhones. Then we can see which ones perform better. But we both know you won't. Hence the continue deflection/pivoting.

iOS can't multitask? Tell that to musicians who run multiple audio Apps together in real time. Something that's literally 100% impossible in Android.

I gave you the test. You couldn't perform it.

Here's another if you don't like the first one; have a YouTube video playing while browsing an unrelated website.

How well does that work for you?

 

[falainber]

Still deflecting. All you have to do is list some Apps I can run on my various Android devices and iPhones. Then we can see which ones perform better. But we both know you won't. Hence the continue deflection/pivoting.

iOS can't multitask? Tell that to musicians who run multiple audio Apps together in real time. Something that's literally 100% impossible in Android.

Musicians running multiple audio apps om iPhones? I think you are confused. They might be doing it on iPads but that's a different device and different OS. Are you trying to deflect or something?

 

[realtuner]

Musicians running multiple audio apps om iPhones? I think you are confused. They might be doing it on iPads but that's a different device and different OS. Are you trying to deflect or something?

Hey, feel free to join in. You want to list some heavyweight Apps on Android/iOS I can test to see which perform better? Since nobody else will bother.

People use iPhones and iPads as all the major audio software is available on both. Plus an iPhone is small/easy to carry around when you’re mobile. Do t try to deflect away from the fact Android is useless in this market.
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I gave you the test. You couldn't perform it.

Here's another if you don't like the first one; have a YouTube video playing while browsing an unrelated website.

How well does that work for you?

Still deflecting. We know you will NEVER list any Apps to compare performance. You claim benchmarks are useless and backed yourself into a corner leaving only App performance as a true measure.

This thread is about processor performance, not split screen. Try and keep up.

 

[Khedron]

Hey, feel free to join in. You want to list some heavyweight Apps on Android/iOS I can test to see which perform better? Since nobody else will bother.

People use iPhones and iPads as all the major audio software is available on both. Plus an iPhone is small/easy to carry around when you’re mobile. Do t try to deflect away from the fact Android is useless in this market.
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Still deflecting. We know you will NEVER list any Apps to compare performance. You claim benchmarks are useless and backed yourself into a corner leaving only App performance as a true measure.

This thread is about processor performance, not split screen. Try and keep up.

That will be relevant when Apple starts selling processors. As it is you can only buy them as part of a complete product, and so the performance of the product as a whole must be considered.

 

[falainber]

Hey, feel free to join in. You want to list some heavyweight Apps on Android/iOS I can test to see which perform better? Since nobody else will bother.

People use iPhones and iPads as all the major audio software is available on both. Plus an iPhone is small/easy to carry around when you’re mobile. Do t try to deflect away from the fact Android is useless in this market.
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Still deflecting. We know you will NEVER list any Apps to compare performance. You claim benchmarks are useless and backed yourself into a corner leaving only App performance as a true measure.

This thread is about processor performance, not split screen. Try and keep up.

What do you mean by heavyweight apps on the phone? Try opening 20 tabs in Chrome browser and see which phone performs better (but we all know the answer to that). This thread is about RAM not performance (you are just trying to deflect). RAM is important for certain types of apps and mutitasking. This is why split screen is relevant (mutitasking).
Your persistent attempts at mixing up iPhones and iPads is a clumsy attempt at deflecting. I thought we were talking about the size of RAM in new iPhones? Audio software is also available on desktops, should we care about this too?

 

[FamVR]

I don’t care much about the RAM as long as Apple thinks that it’s enough. I’ll just trust them.

I would love to trade in the extra 2GB for two more hours of battery life... which is something I do really care about.

 

[falainber]

I don’t care much about the RAM as long as Apple thinks that it’s enough. I’ll just trust them.

I would love to trade in the extra 2GB for two more hours of battery life... which is something I do really care about.

Apple has a well documented history of using insufficient RAM sizes in their iDevices, I do not think you should trust them blindly. Also, RAM does not use that much power (remember Galaxy Note 10+ has 12GB and still has a great battery life time) so the tradeoff you mentioned is not a reality.

 

[realtuner]

What do you mean by heavyweight apps on the phone? Try opening 20 tabs in Chrome browser and see which phone performs better (but we all know the answer to that). This thread is about RAM not performance (you are just trying to deflect). RAM is important for certain types of apps and mutitasking. This is why split screen is relevant (mutitasking).
Your persistent attempts at mixing up iPhones and iPads is a clumsy attempt at deflecting. I thought we were talking about the size of RAM in new iPhones? Audio software is also available on desktops, should we care about this too?

So, like everyone else in this thread, you're not going to bother listing any Apps to test. Got it.

If you're so upset with discussions about iPhone performance, then why not stay out of those threads altogether?

 

[FamVR]

Apple has a well documented history of using insufficient RAM sizes in their iDevices, I do not think you should trust them blindly. Also, RAM does not use that much power (remember Galaxy Note 10+ has 12GB and still has a great battery life time) so the tradeoff you mentioned is not a reality.

Sure. More RAM would be nice, but I am getting the iPhone 11 Pro Max anyway. With whatever the amount of RAM is that it comes with. I’m not complaining. And the improved battery life is a fact. I’m happy with two more hours, since I don’t expect it to be five hours. Not with my usage, so I am trying to be realistic here.

 

[realtuner]

That will be relevant when Apple starts selling processors. As it is you can only buy them as part of a complete product, and so the performance of the product as a whole must be considered.

So the list some Apps and we can see the performance of the "complete package". Running an App will require high performance from the CPU, GPU, NPU, RAM quantity and speed and storage speed. That sure sounds like a test of a "product as a whole" to me.

 

[falainber]

So, like everyone else in this thread, you're not going to bother listing any Apps to test. Got it.

If you're so upset with discussions about iPhone performance, then why not stay out of those threads altogether?

I just gave you the app - Chrome browser. Besides you are asking for something irrelevant to this thread (crude deflection technique).

 

[mi7chy]

And the improved battery life is a fact. I’m happy with two more hours, since I don’t expect it to be five hours. Not with my usage, so I am trying to be realistic here.

5 hours is marketing BS like additional talk time with screen off. In terms of the standard screen-on time benchmark it'll likely be about 35 minutes more with the 10% increase in battery size compared to iPhone Xs Max and still probably last compared to the competition.

 

[slightly_sour]

That’s the way the free market economy works. Apple makes what the customers want to buy. When people stop buying it then Apple will stop making it

Free market BINGO. I'm not sure anyone is arguing against the free market...

 

[MrUNIMOG]

5 hours is marketing BS like additional talk time with screen off. In terms of the standard screen-on time benchmark it'll likely be about 35 minutes more with the 10% increase in battery size compared to iPhone Xs Max and still probably last compared to the competition.

It's 5 hours more for video playback.
But why bother checking https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/ when you can just claim some BS, amirite?