Resting calories not in Health app

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by LIOC, May 8, 2015.

  1. LIOC macrumors member

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    Anyone having the watches resting calories not showing up in the iPhone health app?
     
  2. lewisd25 macrumors 6502a

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    I have the same issue. Hopefully it is something that will be fixed in the next WatchOS 1.X release.
     
  3. The Tuck macrumors 6502

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    The Watch does not calculate resting calories- just active ones.

    Tuck
     
  4. Exile714 macrumors 6502a

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    No, but the Activity app (the one only Apple Watch users can access) does based on your height, weight, age and sex as entered when you set up your watch.

    Also, it's completely and utterly inaccurate... Bonkers.

    And those resting calories are not reflected in the Health app.
     
  5. The Tuck macrumors 6502

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    Ah, I see. Yeah, it is odd then, that it doesn't show up in the Health app. I get resting calories only because I use Sync Solver for Fitbit to put the data in there.

    Tuck
     
  6. IW1206MT macrumors member

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    I am also not seeing resting calories in the activity app following ios9. In addition I was expecting the resting calorie metric to be fixed in ios9 (it was crazy high in ios8) and they are unchanged this far.

    active and total are displaying.
     
  7. Julien macrumors G3

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    This is the way iOS 9 has been since beta 1. Total kcal - Active kcal = Resting kcal (BMR).
     
  8. IW1206MT macrumors member

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    Yes- simple calculation- are you saying that ios9 has not explicitly displayed resting cal since beta? That's cool if that's it- just trying to make sure I am not experiencing an issue...
     
  9. exxxviii macrumors 65816

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    So, it appears that Apple's solution to the BMR challenges may be to hide the number so that users must indirectly calculate it. I guess it may mask some complaints this way.
     
  10. Julien macrumors G3

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    Yes, it has not been in any beta of iOS9.
    • BMR has no practical use to the average consumer (you only need to know total kcal)
    • Including the BMR was likely causing consumer confusion ("what does it mean and how do I use it?")
    • It is a static number (unless you have Heath compatible scales or change your weight in Health/Watch app)
     
  11. IW1206MT macrumors member

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    I don't disagree with hiding it- but the value being used is still way too high. (800-1000 cal per day high) This is maddening as it is the simplest part of the equation to get right. Others have said that this was corrected so I am hopeful. Perhaps os2 will trigger the fix?
     
  12. BlueMoon63 macrumors 68000

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    I am one of those with an app/scale that tracks weight an updates th health data app on the phone which automatically updates the iPhone Apple Watch app weight. You can manually set your weight of course but if you have other apps that track weight and they write to the health data, it will also show that change in the Apple Watch app. I think it is a matter of last one updated.
     
  13. BlueMoon63 macrumors 68000

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    It's iOS update that fixed it, not the watch. iOS 9 public beta 1 had the fix. If someone is off by 800-1000 and they have at least beta 1, I would look elsewhere for the problem. Double check what it shows in the Apple Watch app under general / health. Remember that other apps can and will update weight if you track it and I have at least a few apps that you can enter weight and height.
     
  14. exxxviii macrumors 65816

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    I agree with all. But, when people could explicitly see that the resting calories was way out of line with their expectations and other BMR calculators, it drew attention to the error. By removing the number, then Apple can probably reduce some customer complaints.
     
  15. Julien macrumors G3

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    The same conclusion can be deduced by seeing if Total calories is way out of line since it is directly correlated to your BMR. No need for BMR too, especially since it can be easily calculated. ;)
     
  16. midloman macrumors regular

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    This exactly. While the BMR number alone may not be useful according to BlueMoon, it's a part of the total calorie equation. If the BMR is 1000 calories high, then the total number is 1000 calories too high. Not much help to those of us tracking our calorie intake and calorie burn as we struggle to drop weight.

    Mine is also about 1000-1100 calories too high.
     
  17. midloman macrumors regular

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    All is correct everyplace I can set something. Online BMR calculators give me a BMR 1100-1400 less than my "new calculated" BMR number from the Activity app in iOS 9.
     
  18. Julien, Sep 19, 2015
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    Have you checked to be sure your metrics are set correctly in the Health/Watch Apps?

    In your case (and almost everyone else too) BMR is NOT important (other than it needs to be correct). The important number is Total Calories. You just need to be sure your caloric intake is lower than your Total Calories used to lower body fat. It is also important that you weight train in order to maintain or increase lean mass. Are you using MyFitnessPal? It integrates well with Health app and adjust dynamically based on your Active Calories burned.

    I have spent MANY years monitoring my caloric burn rate and intake rate and have it down to a science.

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  19. IW1206MT macrumors member

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    Completely agree... My metics are spot on. Weight is fed from Fitbit Aria to health via sync solver. Height age etc are all correct. The implied bmr in activity has not changed for me between iOS 8 and 9 and in both cases is about 800-900 high.

    I use loose it and sometimes mfp as well- both currently ignore activity calories unless they are from a workout. Both also apply a generic value to steps. If Apple fixes the broken bmr value, then these apps can better utilize the calorie info from Apple Watch.
     
  20. BlueMoon63 macrumors 68000

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    I swear to you, it's not broken. It's spot on with ios9. They removed resting calories but have total and active and that is right. Resting calories=total calories - active calories.

    Make sure your health info in the Apple Watch app under health is current in all four fields.

    Show some pictures of these settings with your current move info showing active and total. Make me eat my words. :)

    I know it works because it was wrong by 800-900 until I upgraded to ios9 beta 1 even with watch 1.0.1.
     
  21. IW1206MT macrumors member

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    I'll try to post some pics when I get the chance... My total calories for the day are about 800 higher than what is reported by Fitbit surge or ms band with the same activity level.

    I believe what you say- that it was fixed for you in iOS 9... But for whatever reason my calorie daily total has not dropped with the upgrade. (For a similar day) the underlying resting calorie number is exactly the same.

    When you upgraded did the fix apply immediately? Or did it take some trigger?

    Appreciate the help.
     
  22. IW1206MT macrumors member

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    So yesterday was a lazy day.

    The activity app reported a total of 3241 calories burned. Active burn was 478, thus the underlying resting value was 2763. My actual BMR calculates to ~1750. This is the same underlying resting value I was seeing with ios8.

    For the same day, with the same body metrics Fitbit reported 1800 calories. I am not wearing a Fitbit at the moment, so this equates to their underlying resting number.

    These screenshots are below.

    I have triple checked my body metrics and they are accurate in health/ activity.. image.png image.png
     
  23. midloman macrumors regular

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    Attached are pictures of my settings and my move info from yesterday (whole day). Online calculators indicate my BMR should be around 2700 or so. Apple Watch resting calories (BMR) works out to about 4200 given the data below. Like another user here, this is about the same value I've been getting from the Apple Watch for resting calories since I've had it. This is what I was hoping would be fixed in iOS 9. It seems to be fixed for some, but not for me. I don't understand why.


    Data.jpg Calories.jpg
     
  24. BlueMoon63 macrumors 68000

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    Thank you! You are absolutely correct and I have no reason to doubt you. I even plugged in your numbers using an advanced formula for BMR and it is still close to 2700/2800. Yours is off even higher than anyone else. Most say 800,900 and maybe 1100 but yours is off by over 1400. Since you say you are one ios9 and I believe you, it just doesn't make sense but there has to be a reason and I sure hope I can help you or at least help you figure it out.

    On your iPhone if you open the app and click on all and go all the way down to weight and click. Then, when it comes up, click on the graph and it will bring in all you weight measurements. What does it show for sources? I assume you only have a picture of your iPhone as a source? Maybe you have others? When was the last date it shows an entry?

    Also, if you go back one screen and pick the add a data point option, add a weight of 200 and then exit the program and then go into the Apple Watch app and check the move and total calories and see if it adjusts. Trying to figure out if it is reading new inputs.

    Let us know because as an engineer, I am now interested in solving this.
     
  25. BlueMoon63 macrumors 68000

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    Same as my previous post. Apple reads the last entry in health so I am hoping we can find the culprit.

    I use a workout app called fitness builder and it asks for weight and age and sex but doesn't ask for height and it says my resting calories is 2800 and it never even asked for my height so I deleted it as a source and that works fine until I enter it again. I want to see if you have another source feeding data.
     

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