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Retina iPad Mini Launch Supplies Set to Be 'Ridiculously Tight' Until Early 2014

Pretty new company?

TouchMint.com said:
I really don't understand why they are having such an issue here. Nexus and kindle can do it at pretty much at the same dpi so what's the holdup?
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Maybe check on the numbers of Nexus 7 sold: ca.six million in one year, that's 1.5million per quarter, which is less than :apple:'s planned 2 million...

TouchMint.com said:
I guess apple is a pretty new company and didn't really have the resources to plan for something like this.
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Seriously? :confused::eek:

Google: 15 years
Amazon: 19 years*
Apple: 37 years

*older than I thought.

So, yeah, Apple is a pretty new company, especially in the market of tablet business. :D

Maybe, I missed your irony tags. I that case, my apologies.

-drsoong
 
macchiato2009 said:
i remember the stocks last year

my apple store is a flagship but had very little stock of iPad Mini, our customers couldn't wait so they went for the more expensive iPad

also our market leader was forcing us to call our business clients to make pre-orders

they paid in advance and had to wait for weeks to get their products...

:rolleyes:
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True, but I went to Target and they had them in.
 
gentleman00 said:
No, it is deliberate. Apple can't deliver on its promise. But announces new products anyway to boost investor confidence, satisfy shareholders, and raise its stock price while leaving consumers out on a limb.
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I agree, but even if it wasn't deliberate, it's kind of ridiculous to announce a highly anticipated device, just for the sake of announcing and keeping up with the competition, when they don't even have adequate supply to meet the demand. What's wrong with announcing a product that's full well in mass production enough to meet at least the first initial millions of buyers?
 
ridiculously...good looking

iPad Air...Have you ever wondered if there was more to life, other than being really, really, ridiculously good looking? - Derek Zoolander
 
KPOM said:
I disagree somewhat. The Retina Display vs non-Retina Display is a difference that you can literally see without any technical knowledge. Everything just looks sharper.

I agree that 64-bit, A7, RAM, etc. are meaningless to most people. However, even non-tech-savvy people know that technology changes quickly, and that having "this year's model" is "better." My sister purchased the iPhone 5s (coming from an ancient BlackBerry). The 5c would have been way more than enough, but she never even considered it since it was "last year's phone" in a new case.
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Example: I had the 3rd Gen Retina iPad and gave my step daughter the iPad 2. I put Amazing Spider-man on both iPads in 720p. I played them individually and showed them to my wife. She could not tell... I placed them side by side... and she couldn't tell, I told her to look very closely, she finally noticed that "that one" was slightly more clear" and she still didn't care.

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Chupa Chupa said:
Why because only "techies" can appreciate crisp text? I'd agree with you that 99.9% don't care about the specifics of a machines the guts - proc type, RAM, etc to the extent it's adequate to support a superior user experience, but screen quality is something anyone with sight can discern. It's why 4K will be the next big thing by the end of the decade.
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See my post that should be right above this one...

I've shown my wife the 4K Sony TV (the one they released last year for like $25,000) at the Sony store... besides looking "REALLY BIG" and "You're not buying that!" she had no opinions about it.

The bottom line though is this... the bottom line price dictates the general consumer... Slightly more crisp text for $100 (iPad Mini difference vs R-Mini) will, in a majority of the cases, mean "not worth the price" for general consumers... even showing them the difference they will go for the bargain price, not the premium. Only us bleeding edge tech nerds actually care.

That is why This article exists:
 
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Xenomorph said:
Where is the gold version?

Where is the A7X?

Where is Touch ID?
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I doubt we will be seeing "X" models of Apple processors again. The A5X and A6X were specially made for the first two models of Retina iPads because the GPU in the iPhone's of the A5 and A6 generation was too sluggish for the resolution of the Retina screen in an iPad so Apple put in a slightly more advanced GPU in each. Starting with the A7 the standard GPU in even the iPhone easily powers a retina screen of the resolution of an **iPad** so there is no need for the iPad's to have a "boosted" chipset.
 
MrXiro said:
The bottom line though is this... the bottom line price dictates the general consumer... Slightly more crisp text for $100 (iPad Mini difference vs R-Mini) will, in a majority of the cases, mean "not worth the price" for general consumers... even showing them the difference they will go for the bargain price, not the premium. Only us bleeding edge tech nerds actually care.
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1) Your anecdotal stories are just that, no more. You can't make a rational conclusion by generalizing the entire non-techie population to the experiences you witness w/ your family, friends, or a stranger in a store.

2) There are not enough Apple loving techies in the world to account for even the majority of iPad 3 & 4 sales to date.

3) it's a bit disingenuous to call retina screens "slightly more crisp" [emphasis added]. It's kind if like saying Miami is only slightly warmer than New York City in January. Retina iPads are 2x the dpi of non-Retina models. That's not a minor technical difference.

Yes, some people would rather save $100. But not all are non-techies. Others think $100 for a better screen is a worthy upgrade. Not all of them are techies.
 
MrXiro said:
See my post that should be right above this one...

I've shown my wife the 4K Sony TV (the one they released last year for like $25,000) at the Sony store... besides looking "REALLY BIG" and "You're not buying that!" she had no opinions about it.

The bottom line though is this... the bottom line price dictates the general consumer... Slightly more crisp text for $100 (iPad Mini difference vs R-Mini) will, in a majority of the cases, mean "not worth the price" for general consumers... even showing them the difference they will go for the bargain price, not the premium. Only us bleeding edge tech nerds actually care.

That is why This article exists:
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Stop providing facts. It hurts the brain.

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Chupa Chupa said:
3) it's a bit disingenuous to call retina screens "slightly more crisp" [emphasis added]. It's kind if like saying Miami is only slightly warmer than New York City in January. Retina iPads are 2x the dpi of non-Retina models. That's not a minor technical difference.

Yes, some people would rather save $100. But not all are non-techies. Others think $100 for a better screen is a worthy upgrade. Not all of them are techies.
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We went from an iPad1 to iPad4 and after the honeymoon was over, the increased resolution is barely noticeable unless we hold the screen really close to our eyes.

The difference in resolution can only be seen if the screen is about 7-9 inches from your eyes & you need to do a side by side comparison.
Most people tend to hold their tablets a lot further, which negates the increased resolution.

That is why 4K resolution will have an uphill battle getting the general consumer to buy because they see no difference from a typical viewing distance.
 
bkribbs said:
I would argue we only get new tech. Not the other two
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It really depend how you value the ecosystem. If every app that you ever use is available in Android and you are happy with the way that Android deal with system integration, then you have no reason to pay any extra for IOS devices. And there is no reason you would wait for Ipad mini retina to start out with. Clearly there are enough customers that value the ecosystem and app availability and willing to pay the extra. Every time I buy a tablet or smartphone, all the free apps come with the purchase and every paid apps is something that I can choose to spend my money late on. e.g. I used bloomberg, CNBC and a local TV station KTVU app extensively and as far as I know there is no Android equivalent. I am pretty set for IOS. It is very much individual choice but the fact that Apple went through extreme length to make sure apps running on IPad has consistent look help. And the fact that Apple user as a group is more willing to spend money help even more that feed the app development cycle.

Don't you agree that the main attraction of Android handset is the low price with similar hardware function? But it was never low price for equivalent software function. Like it or not, someone is willing to pay for all the software and it drive all the Android fans crazy :cool:

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bawbac said:
Stop providing facts. It hurts the brain.

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We went from an iPad1 to iPad4 and after the honeymoon was over, the increased resolution is barely noticeable unless we hold the screen really close to our eyes.

The difference in resolution can only be seen if the screen is about 7-9 inches from your eyes & you need to do a side by side comparison.
Most people tend to hold their tablets a lot further, which negates the increased resolution.

That is why 4K resolution will have an uphill battle getting the general consumer to buy because they see no difference from a typical viewing distance.
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So if that is your argument, you should stay in the low end of the mobile device range. Why would it bother you if someone else is willing to pay for the higher resolution?
 
xofruitcake said:
It really depend how you value the ecosystem. If every app that you ever use is available in Android and you are happy with the way that Android deal with system integration, then you have no reason to pay any extra for IOS devices. And there is no reason you would wait for Ipad mini retina to start out with. Clearly there are enough customers that value the ecosystem and app availability and willing to pay the extra. Every time I buy a tablet or smartphone, all the free apps come with the purchase and every paid apps is something that I can choose to spend my money late on. e.g. I used bloomberg, CNBC and a local TV station KTVU app extensively and as far as I know there is no Android equivalent. I am pretty set for IOS. It is very much individual choice but the fact that Apple went through extreme length to make sure apps running on IPad has consistent look help. And the fact that Apple user as a group is more willing to spend money help even more that feed the app development cycle.

Don't you agree that the main attraction of Android handset is the low price with similar hardware function? But it was never low price for equivalent software function. Like it or not, someone is willing to pay for all the software and it drive all the Android fans crazy :cool:

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So if that is your argument, you should stay in the low end of the mobile device range. Why would it bother you if someone else is willing to pay for the higher resolution?
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True I suppose, but still, cheap or low price or whatever your wording was doesn't quite seem to match in my mind :p
 
bawbac said:
Stop providing opinions. It hurts the brain.
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i fixed it for you.

The difference in resolution can only be seen if the screen is about 7-9 inches from your eyes & you need to do a side by side comparison.
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i feel bad for your vision. seriously...if you cant instantaneously tell the diff between a retina ipad and non, then your vision is suffering. update your prescription immediately.
 
Anything new i hear annouced from Apple, and i end up buying it, i will never expected miricals for short time shipments to a few weeks.

I'm not surprised. Its not the first time Apple has done this due tight supplies.

Lets just hope the people that will order early, will get theirs by xmas.

This is why Apple says "Comming late November"....

It's also explains why when supplies are retricted, you KNOW Apple's just announced something better they can't really product in mass quantities.

There ya go, something new to go after
 
When is apple going to do this right again? Ever since Tim cook left the supply chain it seems they can't get it right. First with the iPad 3 (an obviously rushed product), then the iMac and now the iPad mini.. What happened to the immediate availability ? Announcing a product without having a release date seems pretty bad for me, and yes, Steve jobs would've never allowed this.
 
bawbac said:
We went from an iPad1 to iPad4 and after the honeymoon was over, the increased resolution is barely noticeable unless we hold the screen really close to our eyes.
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In that case I highly recommend you & wife seeing an eye doctor. Doubling resolution is not a slight of hand or beyond the range of common human vision. If you have decent, not perfect vision it's a stark difference. The majority of iPads sold this year were Retina. So I'm not alone.
 
Chupa Chupa said:
In that case I highly recommend you & wife seeing an eye doctor. Doubling resolution is not a slight of hand or beyond the range of common human vision. If you have decent, not perfect vision it's a stark difference. The majority of iPads sold this year were Retina. So I'm not alone.
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I dont' think he's being offensive with "see an oculist" suggestion, he's concerned for your well being.
 
I think the most worrying thing about these tight supplies/rushing through to get the displays ready will be the actual quality of the displays.
Quality control will slip because the products will have to be on the shelves by November and we'll end up with a first batch full of problems... Dead pixels, poorly calibrated refresh rates, etc.
That's also going to make genius replacements incredibly complicated be cause if there aren't enough new ones, let's not even mention service ones.

I sold my 4 to get a Retina Mini, but I think I'll just fork out the remaining and get an iPad Air. At least it's a screen technology that had time to mature and the weight difference isn't that significant, I think... only 100g.
 
well Apple: it's not a "launch" if you can't buy it...

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ellsworth said:
Did anyone notice that T-Mobile will be giving 200mbs data per month for free?

That's pretty awesome
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quite interesting to see the differences in pricng from country to country, in Austria nobody would care about 200MB as having at least a GB and thousands of minutes voice service per month for about 10USD is standard.
 
bernhard said:
well Apple: it's not a "launch" if you can't buy it...

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And did you say the same thing when Nexus 4 was out of stock a few weeks at a time when Google launch the device? Waiting is part of the fun of getting the latest and great hi tech gadget. If you don't like waiting, get last year or a few months old devices and you don't have to wait. In a couple months, 5s will probably be available for walk in purchase. But it wouldn't be the latest devices. Someone else probably has a newer device available at that point.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_4

On the day of release, the entire Nexus 4 stock on the Play Store sold out in under 30 minutes.[38] Critics mentioned how Google and LG were responsible for the severe supply issues, and "the stock outs and the resulting frustrations of the great many who waited in vain during the holidays for the Nexus 4 deliveries that never came". International Business Times expressed concern about how by the time the phone will be back in stock on Google Play, many phones with much better specifications will be available, making it a less sought choice for consumers.[39] LG explained how the supply problems were because "demand via the Play Store has been very high".[40] Online eBay auctioneers took advantage of the supply issues, reselling Nexus 4s at inflated prices, some reaching over £420 for the 16 GB model – an increase of over 50%.[41] The phone was not released in India until May 2013.[42]
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mdelvecchio said:
i fixed it for you.



i feel bad for your vision. seriously...if you cant instantaneously tell the diff between a retina ipad and non, then your vision is suffering. update your prescription immediately.
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Wow, fixed it for you.
That's innovative. :p

Keep saying it over and over and it makes it true. :D
You need to brush up on resolution and distance on how it's perceived by vision to scientifically understand when retina display resolution becomes moot.

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Chupa Chupa said:
In that case I highly recommend you & wife seeing an eye doctor. Doubling resolution is not a slight of hand or beyond the range of common human vision. If you have decent, not perfect vision it's a stark difference. The majority of iPads sold this year were Retina. So I'm not alone.
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Someone bought the hype. :p
 
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