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Retina MacBook Pro Arriving with Up to 16 GB RAM and 768 GB SSD

paradox00 said:
Umm... the rumours are for a redesigned model with a retina display plus the old Macbook Pro model with no retina.

We will find out soon enough though.
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I was just going by what i've read today but yes i think that's more than likely too.
 
rovex said:
I said to myself beforehand that we will either see a resdesign or Retina. It looks to be the latter, and there's no other reason for them to make a MBP announcement at WWDC unless they didn't have something fresh in store for us, that's the least we can gather.

Now I can't say with certainty whether Retina will be standard or BTO, we'll find out soon enough.
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Who's to say there is an annoucement at WWDC for MBPs specifically ? Maybe they'll do a "whole line-up" announcement and that's why it's getting a keynote. Maybe they just feel the Macs haven't been getting enough keynote time (look at the last 3 years of keynotes... 2010, Back to the Mac... that's about it).

I'm sticking to what I believe : there is no 3rd line-up, there is no retina. These part numbers first don't even indicate anything special with the screen, and if anything, they could simply be the same old Hires 15" we've had for a few refreshes now.

If anything, the 15" might come standard with 1650x1080, with an option for 1920x1200 to replace the 17" that seems to have disappeared from the rumors.

I'd rather stick to that and be pleasantly surprised then be all "Retina ! :D" and then be utterly disappointed.
 
Dave00 said:
As an AAPL investor, I don't like what I'm hearing lately. Three different lines of macbooks, rumors of an iPad mini - this kind of balkanization is exactly what drove Apple to near-bankruptcy in the 90's. With the MacBook Pro/Air, you serve two different needs - portability/affordability in one, and features/expandability in the other. How do you market the retina display line separately from the MacBook pro? Both address the same group of consumers. If they insist on keeping the traditional Macbook Pro, make the retina display a high-end option, rather than making another line entirely.

Dave
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Dave,

Most likely, if there is another line of MBPros, then it's no different when they had the Mac Book (white, black), the MacAir and the MacBook Pro. Were you making comments like this then?

Also, if there is another line, then most likely, they are going to do the same thing here with the older style MacBook Pro, just as they did with the MacBook (white/black) and phase it out over the next year.

Secondly, comparing Apple to the 90s to the Apple now is hilarious. Apple then was never a global company nor did it have the products like it has now.
 
Apple's slowpoke SSD's are a joke. If the only way you can get a retina display is opting into their over priced BTO options, I would pass. That's just greedy.
 
I can't get the number to make sense. 1400 for ssd and 300 for ram upgrade on top of a 2300ish base price?

Well actually... No. That sounds about right.

Wwdc needs to start now none of this makes any sense. We've got a couple pieces but how do you get a 500 pice puzzle to make sense with just 8 pieces in place?
 
guzhogi said:
It will take a while before Thunderbolt becomes totally widespread. TB may be faster, but USB 3 is everywhere so it would be a little stupid to ignore it. Besides, if Macs get updated to Ivy Bridge, it has a USB 3 controller built-in, correct? How difficult would it be for Apple to change the USB 2 ports it has now to 3?
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thunderbolt is getting more mainstream. computex had shown quite a few laptops with thunderbolt.

if the mac doesn't get ivy bridge, it no point getting a new one.
and yes, with a native controller, there is no excuse for not having 3.0
 
Well the 16gb Ram is kind of underwhelming I mean you can get from third party vendors for the 2011 Macbook Pro 16gb Ram for less than 200$ and the for the iMac 32gb.

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/Apple_MacBook_MacBook_Pro/Upgrade/DDR3_1333MHz_SDRAM

Furthermore I bet the SSD that is used is one hell of a crappy one from Samsung or Toshiba and in worst case scenario they will be SATA II, If they start using SSD`s from OCZ or OWC we can start talking but until then everybody who wants to get the most out of it will replace that APPLE SSD anyways....

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/SSD/OWC/Mercury_6G/
 
Funkymonk said:
Maybe I'll buy a 17" MBP retina in 5 years when my 2011 13" MBA is 6 years old. :D
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Goin strong for 16 months. The machine feels like it hasn't aged a day. I love it.

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zzLZHzz said:
thunderbolt is getting more mainstream. computex had shown quite a few laptops with thunderbolt.

if the mac doesn't get ivy bridge, it no point getting a new one.
and yes, with a native controller, there is no excuse for not having 3.0
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it's also insanely expensive to do anything with it. It's mainstream when the price becomes affordable. I shouldn't have to spend iPad money on accessories.
 
The top-end is only for 2 different groups. Professionals where they will recoup their money back since its a tool after all or rich-daddy's-little-girl so she can facebook on it.
 
Do Apple forumites not understand how much large SSDs cost? That's where the high price is coming from. Bit bonkers and kinda unneeded, I would have thought.
 
Dave00 said:
As an AAPL investor, I don't like what I'm hearing lately. Three different lines of macbooks, rumors of an iPad mini - this kind of balkanization is exactly what drove Apple to near-bankruptcy in the 90's. With the MacBook Pro/Air, you serve two different needs - portability/affordability in one, and features/expandability in the other. How do you market the retina display line separately from the MacBook pro? Both address the same group of consumers. If they insist on keeping the traditional Macbook Pro, make the retina display a high-end option, rather than making another line entirely.

Dave
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I'm sure the MBP and MBA lines will merge. It takes time, improvement in tech, logistics and manufacturing infrastructure, creating a market (or ensuring that one exists in the first place). As an Apple investor myself, and owner of Apple products, I dont see anything of concern here. Just the normal process of product evolution.
 
Before the Apple store went down, upgrading a MBP to a 512 SSD was a $2100 Build to order option. A $4000 top of the line model is not out of the question...

I just hope the parts are user upgradable...
 
Guys, don't let them take you for fools. These are not retina Macs, these are simply SSD BTO options for regular MBP. Of course a 768GB SSD will cost an arm and a leg... otherwise, these machines will be exactly the same as the non-ssd versions.
 
wizard said:
All I can say is I'm glad you don't run the company! Frankly you don't understand why Apple was in the condition it was all those years ago when Steve took over nor why he had to so drastically trim the product line. Today Apple is to large to support itself on such thin product lines. They really need hardware that appeals to more and more users.
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Settle down, Beavis. I started programming on the Apple IIGS, had a Mac SE, and stayed with the Mac all the way through the horrid times. I also ran computer clusters full of Macs for years during the '90s. So yes, I do have a pretty good idea of why Apple Computer was in the state it was.

The balkanization was a HUGE problem, and it was an absolutely brilliant move to simplify the lines. Any time you add another line, you have to have support, inventory, marketing, etc. The MacBook pro and Macbook Retina, as described, are going after virtually the same customer. Just because you're a bigger company doesn't mean you're immune to this problem - just ask GM.

Regardless, will see what gets unveiled in the next few minutes...

Dave
 
adster said:
Before the Apple store went down, upgrading a MBP to a 512 SSD was a $2100 Build to order option. A $4000 top of the line model is not out of the question...

I just hope the parts are user upgradable...
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3200 euros? Sounds plausible.
 
10:24 am THIRD LAPTOP LINE!!!
10:23 am "So what's next...?"
10:23 am Also shipping today!
10:23 am Same pricing as well, better specs though.
10:23 am Same size too.
10:22 am No retina either... So far anyway. :(
10:22 am Both USB ports are getting USB 3.
10:22 am 60% faster as well.
10:22 am Discrete GPU is now the GeForce GT 650M, 1GB.
10:21 am 3rd gen Core, Ivy Bridge CPU up to 2.7Ghz, 8GB 1600Mhz memory, and 60% faster graphics integrated.
10:21 am Next up, updates to MacBook Pro.

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10:29 am Ships with Lion.
10:29 am Higher contrast ratios, deeper blacks, great angle of view. Glare reduced by 75% on glossy screen.
10:28 am World's highest resolution notebook display.
10:28 am 220 pixels per inch, 5,184,000 pixels.
10:28 am 15.4" across, pixel density is 2880x1800.
10:28 am "Absolutely stunning."
10:27 am Retina Display confirmed!
10:27 am Lightest pro notebook Apple has ever made.
10:27 am 4.46lbs.
10:27 am 1/4 thinner, about as thin as a MacBook Air.
10:27 am 0.71 inches thin.
10:26 am Phil placing finger next to the new MBP, thinner than his finger.
10:26 am Magnificent new display, incredibly thin.
10:25 am New MacBook Pro getting revealed...
 
Watching the announcement so far I want to know where all the naysayers are - the individuals who keep claiming that Apple is ignoring their Mac division in favour of completely focusing on i-devices. Come on, where are you? sitting at home crying into your coffee because yet another WWDC rolls around with more attention being paid to Mac's than ever before?
 
Holy Crap Sticks Apple!!! But I think they could have given the current gen MB Pro better graphics if they've managed to squeeze the 650m into the new thin model!
Still... oh and they should have also included 802.11 AC wireless... but man that's a nice looking machine.
 
I didn't see any kensington lock, is that true?
Was thinking about one for work but it would disappear instantly without lock :(
 
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