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They also give out free pre-paid shipping labels...

Really? Who can't fill-out a form on-line, wait for the box to be hand delivered to their door, then put their unwanted decade old computer into that box, call the number on the box, and then leave it the box in front of their door for pick up?

(I mean I can see some people have difficultly with that, but I'm talking someone whom IS able to take their unwanted computer to a conventional computer recycler and pay any required fee.)

How so? If they can't physically reach an Apple store, Apple will arrange for a courier at no expense to yourself. Pretty sure it's an option for everyone that owns one.


apple only ships the pre paid shipping labels/boxes domestically so there is no option for someone like me. i just called them to confirm it for you guys.

i guess its understandable since apple is a rather small company.
 
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apple only ships the pre paid shipping labels/boxes domestically so there is no option for someone like me. i just called them to confirm it for you guys.

i guess its understandable since apple is a rather small company.

Did not know that. Touche. Apple should then make it easier for everyone to recycle old hardware. I still don't think that most people are going to go to the trouble of taking apart old hardware to recycle even if they have the ability to. Does suck though for the select few out there that do want to go to the trouble of helping the environment.
 
apple only ships the pre paid shipping labels/boxes domestically so there is no option for someone like me. i just called them to confirm it for you guys.

i guess its understandable since apple is a rather small company.

So, you're saying there's no Apple store in the country you happen to be in, either physical or electronic? Kind of hard to believe.
 
I love a lot of the USA's geography, but that's about it as far as things I like about it goes.

I was simply stating that there are many willfully ignorant people that do not understand the importance of such things, and dismiss them entirely.

From the first part of your comment, you are as described by the second part of your comment. You have so much to be greatful for in the US (and I say this as an Australian); it has issues like every country and is going through a rough period, but overall it's one of the very best (in many areas the absolute best, especially its constitution and Bill of Rights).
 
What is apple thinking with the MBPR

No upgrade for ram,
No upgrade for the SSD
No replaceable battrie at all, and its glued in.

What the hell.

What if the macintosh was never made, Would 1984 been like what the book said?

Guess, I should go read it.

You know I thought apple was about creativity and choice and stuff like that,

Where is the choice? The choice of parts and such? I think to be honest my next computer is a pc running OSX


you can't add more ram in later if you want?
 
And Apple won't care if iFixit throws another hissyfit either.

Given that Apple doesn't want Joe Smith opening his own stuff, screwing it up, and then coming like a douche to demand a replacement, they probably love it when iFixIt has a fit. Icing on the cake, like when an iOS bug fix f's up a jailbreak. They don't likely design for such breaks but don't turn down when they happen
 
I will turn to PC if Apple loses it's epeat status. Steve Jobs would be so angry if knew his company was willing to lose it's status to help the environment.

Disgusting.

You do understand that this move started with the MacBook Air which Steve helped design, as well as the iPad etc.

EPEAT is one standard and lacking it hardly means Apple isn't going to keep up their other standards.

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I'm sorry that the simple fact that Apple itself makes a thinner laptop that uses screws to hold the battery in flies in the face of the "Apple had to use to glue to make it thin" theory.

Okay you don't like that theory. How about this one. Apple wanted to make a thin, stable and safe laptop. Brackets and screws can come loose. Especially when you are dragging the unit around on trips all the time and jogging the unit around. Screw comes loose, bracket loosens, battery comes loose from connectors and you have power failures. No good. Or worse, battery bangs around and is punctured and you have an explosive event. Same if the screw rattles around inside. We've seen it happen and proven as such with an iPhone. Much bigger battery in a laptop means much more lithium etc to explode.

So to achieve all possible goals Apple felt gluing was the best choice. Don't like it, don't buy. I'm sure Intel will have a no glue used, listed on EPEAT high def screen ultra book out for you soon

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no the point was people should not rip iFixIt for its rating because it was dead on. Apple is more or less completely exiting making professional grade products. They are nearly a 100% consumer grade company. Dont get me wrong they make grade high quality products but they are consumer grade.

IFixIt rates how well they can repair it or teach you too. Doesn't really reflect how well the manufacturer can repair it.

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good, now apple will rethink their planned obsolescence strategy and hopefully make products that can be upgraded..

You act like no one else does this. You really think that Dell etc are making their machines to last the next 20 years. And what about all these Android OEMs that give you zero upgrades on your software. That is totally about forcing you to buy new hardware.

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There are a lot of requirements to be enterprise grade. One for example is to have easily replaceable parts. Like the Hard drive should be easy to pull out and pop in another computer. Quick replacement for ram and mobos. It should be quick and easy to do on site. No requirement to go threw Apple to do it.
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Such requirements are starting to die out, particularly as more and more places are switching to tablets and smartphones plus 'cloud' storage arrangements.
 
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