Retina MacBook Pro Shipping Estimates Improving to 1-2 Weeks

[charlituna]

1. Wow, BTO recommendation? You do realize that aftermarket RAM is essentially the same as Apple RAM.

It's soldered in and removing it voids your warranty.

2. While you have a point on pricing (a whole 30 dollars worth) it's not exactly convenient for professionals (pro btw) to have to take time out of their schedule to have Apple do this. Most professionals are competent enough to replace a battery.

Glued in on the top case. So no, you can't just replace it. And that is also why the part costs so much.

Then again with a 1000 cycle life will it be that big of an issue

That you ignore these details about the machine and the ignorance this oversight suggest diminishes the worth of your comments. Perhaps you should do a bit more research next time to make sure you have your facts lined up correctly

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And you can get an external optical drive for £15 (CD and DVD reader / writer) that works just fine with every Mac.

Or for more like £50 get that blu-ray drive Apple refused to put in

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There are cons to the Ethernet Adapter, can't quite remember them fully but it was to do with them only running at a slow speed (100 Mbps) or something, which if i'm being honest, makes it pointless if you have a fast connection.

Thunderbolt to Ethernet for the win.

Now if they would just send out the TB to FW adapter

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Sorry man, but ive never seen it. im 43 years old and been on computers since floppy drives.

This machine is pointed at Pros and they will get Apple Care for the phone support and extra coverage and the cost is a tax write off.

So IF the board or RAM goes bad in that 3 years it's a free replacement. Same with the SSD, even if it means pulling an iPad that doing a whole unit swap. Hell the stores might even start doing free data transfers since a TB of data across thunderbolt would be like 3 hours tops (probably more like half that). Or if not free you pay like $50 for it. Still hella cheaper than anywhere.

And with the way computers are blasting up in improvements in 3 years something 5-10 times better will be out and that's what the smart money will be spent on, not the dying horse

 

[gnasher729]

My point was all the negatives just to get 3/16" thinner. Remove that Apple development obsession, you can still install normal Laptop Ram, standard SSD's, ethernet jack, and make the system serviceable. Its pretty straight forward.

You may not have noticed it, but Apple actually sells to 15" MBPs with different designs. If you don't like the Retina 15" MBP, there is a 15" MBP that has everything you want.

There are cons to the Ethernet Adapter, can't quite remember them fully but it was to do with them only running at a slow speed (100 Mbps) or something, which if i'm being honest, makes it pointless if you have a fast connection.

Well, the £2.95 adapter will _work_, not at the highest possible speed, but it's excellent if you go to some place and nobody knows the WiFi password. Yes, if you want to transfer 100 MB image files all the time, you better spend £25 for the Thunderbolt to Ethernet adapter.

 

[dougsterown]

oh my gosh. What HUGE news!!!

 

[Gata]

oh my gosh. What HUGE news!!!

Thank you for your meaningful and insightful comment.

 

[KdParker]

Waited for a month to get mine... ah the early adopter's price... I'm not an early adopter usually, but Apple sure made me one with the rMBP!

what a difference 5 days made. I was Jun 12 crowd that got in on the 2-3 week estimate. I only had to wait 2 weeks before I received rMBP.

Wonder what the sales numbers will be for rMBP for the 2nd and 3rd quarters

 

[Thunderhawks]

You may not have noticed it, but Apple actually sells to 15" MBPs with different designs. If you don't like the Retina 15" MBP, there is a 15" MBP that has everything you want.

He doesn't want to hear this or cannot follow logic.

Instead, he complains about a product that was designed exactly to not have what he needs/wants and will not buy.

Kind of funny actually

Another poster makes a great point about a 3 year life cycle for PROs.
If you are in a PRO field you will certainly watch what is coming in development and in 3 years buy the next fastest thing.
3 years in the current computer development cycle speed is an eternity.

When ASUS, Lenovo, Samsung, HP et. al. copy this design for the PC world we won't hear one peep from these people

 

[KdParker]

If you ordered it a couple of weeks ago there's 1-2 weeks left, same as a new order

maybe it will come earlier

 

[mex4eric]

If they are reducing the shipping time to 1-2 weeks, either they are not selling as many as they thought or they are catching up with a higher demand than they expected at launch. I suspect the latter, as they are always proud to announce that supply and demand are now "in balance".

 

[gnasher729]

If they are reducing the shipping time to 1-2 weeks, either they are not selling as many as they thought or they are catching up with a higher demand than they expected at launch. I suspect the latter, as they are always proud to announce that supply and demand are now "in balance".

They were initially selling more than expected, since there was very quickly a backlog of 3 to 4 weeks. So what would any halfway competent business person do in that situation? Increase production.

 

[aksmax]

Excellent. That's what I was looking for. Placed my order. Might even hit a Mountain Lion pre-install, but not a big deal either way.

Replacing a 15" 2.66 i7. Late 2010 I believe. Well, it's going to a good home as a hand-me-down. Went with an upgraded SSD plus external Optical. First time in a long while my cost has gone up, but in total I believe it's worth it, based on my criteria. I think they've done all the right things here.

I used to replace batteries regularly, but not with this new technology. Upgradeability... overrated. I used to add RAM and bigger HD's to every machine, but not lately. And I remember the floppy retirement. It mattered about 5 times. Those of you that are nervous, don't be. Buy it and enjoy it. Assuming you can afford it. If not, the non-retina's are a bargain!

 

[AppleScruff1]

I'll bet the ones' at $3200 a pop are flying off the shelves.

 

[davisnewman]

New Mac Book Pro

Mine will be Thursday

 

[HarryKNN21]

He doesn't want to hear this or cannot follow logic.

Instead, he complains about a product that was designed exactly to not have what he needs/wants and will not buy.

Kind of funny actually

Another poster makes a great point about a 3 year life cycle for PROs.
If you are in a PRO field you will certainly watch what is coming in development and in 3 years buy the next fastest thing.
3 years in the current computer development cycle speed is an eternity.

When ASUS, Lenovo, Samsung, HP et. al. copy this design for the PC world we won't hear one peep from these people

Some people are happy to see those PC makers copy the design of MacBook because they can buy a MacBook wannabe at much cheaper price and try to look down on people who buy MacBooks.

Also, PC laptops are always shxt and nobody give a fxxk to PC laptop's product life. My university friend bought an ASUS that has a 2GB Geforce after seeing I bought a 13" MBP for school work, laughed at me having no discrete GPU. However, during recent contacts he suddenly admitted his ASUS is crap and MacBook is elegant and powerful, so...

Thus I use my MBP everyday and it is my main computer.

 

[faroZ06]

Can someone tell me whats wrong with this picture? lol

It costs $600 extra for double the SSD space and a slightly faster CPU, and there is no ethernet port.

Now where is the new iMac and Mac Pro, Apple?

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Thunderbolt to Ethernet for the win.

Now if they would just send out the TB to FW adapter

Sure you can get anything over Thunderbolt, but I'm not even considering it until they make some decently-priced adapters. Ethernet is a must-have for me, and I'm not going to pay through the nose for a port that should be there in the first place. The same goes for FireWire 400 and 800.

Or they should just come free with the computer like those display output adapters that used to come free because Apple used to have retarded display outputs (miniVGA, are you kidding??).

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Waited for a month to get mine... ah the early adopter's price... I'm not an early adopter usually, but Apple sure made me one with the rMBP!

No offense, but it is safer to wait before buying. Retina PC displays are cutting-edge at this point and haven't been tested very much. Messed-up displays have already been reported, and you risk getting stuck with a computer that will seem OK now but break later on.

And in general, if some faulty part is shipped inside of some Macs, the part manufacturer will end up fixing it soon, leaving the first few people to hopefully return the computers in a recall. There was never a recall for my iMac because the GPU problem was not very obvious, so I ended up getting screwed when it broke 5 years after purchase. Thank you, NVIDIA, for testing beta products on me. Now I'm using AMD.

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Apple would never drop the number from the iPhone. It simply makes no sense. For example if the galaxy S had no number, I would be, along with many others, confused as to which is the newest model. If this iPhone is called "The New iPhone" will the next model be called "The Newer iPhone"?

So why did Apple drop (actually never include) the number on their Macs, hmm? There's no "MacBook Pro 2" or "MacBook Pro 3". They are referred to by the date of release. Why can't the iPhone be referred to by the generation like how the iPod touch is? Think about it, and you'll notice that Apple has NO hardware products except for the iPhone that use numbers.

It seems like you think that they called the 3rd-gen iPad "The New iPad", but the actual product name is simply "iPad".

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Your wrong. No way apple would ever do iPhone again just because the first iPhone was named "iPhone". How would people know the difference between the first iPhone and the iPhone 5?

The same way people know the difference between the 2006 white iMac and the 2011 aluminum iMac.

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The look on your face when Apple announces the iPhone 5 in october will be priceless.

Yesssssss
Take a screenshot of his post, and post it as a comment on an article about Apple calling it the iPhone 5.

 

[terraphantm]

Sure you can get anything over Thunderbolt, but I'm not even considering it until they make some decently-priced adapters. Ethernet is a must-have for me, and I'm not going to pay through the nose for a port that should be there in the first place. The same goes for FireWire 400 and 800.

Or they should just come free with the computer like those display output adapters that used to come free because Apple used to have retarded display outputs (miniVGA, are you kidding??).

I agree it should have been included, but $30 is not "paying through the nose" by any stretch of the definition.

 

[faroZ06]

You're just wrong. iPad and iPad (2012) share the same name. The MacBook Pro lines don't have numbers. So iPhone could (not saying will) follow a new iPhone line. iPhone (2012) will be great regardless of naming.

They call the iPhone by numbers because each new full version (not the "S" ones) has a very new design. The same could not be said for other Apple products, including the iPad.

 

[terraphantm]

They call the iPhone by numbers because each new full version (not the "S" ones) has a very new design. The same could not be said for other Apple products, including the iPad.

iPods have had fairly different designs without officially having numbers.

 

[faroZ06]

I agree it should have been included, but $30 is not "paying through the nose" by any stretch of the definition.

It is when you consider what you are buying. I'd have to pay $30 for a port that should be there anyway, and on top of that, it's an ugly and annoying dongle on the side. Most computer adapters are $5 at most from eBay. And then I'd need an adapter for each of my other ports that have disappeared, except for the fact that there is no TB to FireWire adapter yet besides the one in the Cinema Display.

I just don't like the idea of Apple making profit off of TB adapters for these very common ports. They should come with the computer or be sold at the manufacturing cost.

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iPods have had fairly different designs without officially having numbers.

True, but not recently. I guess I stand corrected if this goes back enough. Anyway, "iPod Nano 3" or something would sound awkward, so there is a reason for them not to number those. There is no "iPod" at this point, but they probably should have called the 2nd-gen iPod the "iPod 2".

There have been major design changes between '06 and '07 for Macs, but if they used numbers for those, we would have been on "iMac 2" (x gen) for a while or "iMac 2S" or iMac "2.x". I'm not going to go back to the PPC era for Apple.

 

[terraphantm]

It is when you consider what you are buying. I'd have to pay $30 for a port that should be there anyway, and on top of that, it's an ugly and annoying dongle on the side. Most computer adapters are $5 at most from eBay. And then I'd need an adapter for each of my other ports that have disappeared.

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True, but not recently. I guess I stand corrected if this goes back enough. Anyway, "iPod Nano 3" or something would sound awkward, so there is a reason for them not to number those. There is no "iPod" at this point, but they probably should have called the 2nd-gen iPod the "iPod 2".

There have been major design changes between '06 and '07 for Macs, but if they used numbers for those, we would have been on "iMac 2" (x gen) for a while or "iMac 2S" or iMac "2.x".

fact of the matter is, the machine lacks an Ethernet port. And based on the demand for the rmbp, that's not going to change. It's easily remedied with a thunderbolt adapter which costs only $30. If you can afford this laptop, you probably earn a good deal more in a single hour. If that's really enough to stop you from buying the whole machine, then more power to you I suppose. I haven't seen USB -> ethernet adapters for much less than $15 online though. I'd pay $15 extra to get native gigabit speeds since thunderbolt is essentially external PCIe.

And is FW800 really necessary? USB 3.0 is a hell of a lot faster and already offers wider support.

 

[faroZ06]

fact of the matter is, he machine lacks an Ethernet port. It's easily remedied with a thunderbolt adapter which costs only $30. If that's really enough to stop you from buying the whole machine, then more power to you I suppose. I haven't seen USB -> ethernet adapters for much less than $15 online though. I'd pay $15 extra to get native gigabit speeds since thunderbolt is essentially external PCIe.

And is FW800 really necessary? USB 3.0 is a **** of a lot faster and already offers wider support.

FW800 is somewhat necessary for me, and I have already found reports of people testing and finding that FW800 is faster than USB 3.0. USB also lacks some of the features of FireWire, and it uses more computer resources, which sucks. FW400 is absolutely necessary for me because of the video editing I do and the iSight webcam, and FW800 to FW400 adapters are common. The actual main reason I'd avoid getting a MBPR is that I already have a MacBook.

Also, I did a quick search for ethernet to USB adapters and found plenty for <$5, "Buy it Now" on eBay with free shipping.

 

[jcpb]

How is FW800's 800Mbps faster than USB 3.0's 4800Mbps, even after accounting for USB's overhead?

Also, are there any USB3 to Gigabit Ethernet adapters yet? USB2 to GbE = 480Mbps max. USB2 to Ethernet = 100Mbps max.

 

[faroZ06]

How is FW800's 800Mbps faster than USB 3.0's 4800Mbps, even after accounting for USB's overhead?

Also, are there any USB3 to Gigabit Ethernet adapters yet? USB2 to GbE = 480Mbps max. USB2 to Ethernet = 100Mbps max.

There is overhead and the computer's inability to actually put 4800mbps through USB. Remember that USB uses some of the CPU. I don't exactly know which is faster, and I am only relying on random Google search results. I'm going to test it as soon as I can, which will probably not be soon.

 

[lincolntran]

1. no upgradeable ram
2. glued battery
3. not enough hd space
4. no ethernet or optical drive

1. You need more than 16GB?
2. You take your baterry out often?
3. You need more than 768GB on a laptop?
4. You still use wire?

 

[seemo40]

Happy rMBP

that's because no one is buying it now

WOW. I got mine and love it! and where I am they have sold out.

 

[BryanL1972]

I just got tired of waiting,,with all my money saved to get a new 27 iMac,,so I went today to my local BestBuy,,and they had the new Macpro retinas in stk,,,as I stared at it on sale,,(both of them),,I made the plunge,,and am so happy I did..I wanted so bad to buy a Mac at an apple store..The whole experience is exciting to someone new to a Mac like me...but the local apple stores in my area..(Tampa,FL),,were all sold out,,and higher priced...if u can deal with BestBuy...and some of the ignorance at some of those stores,,,you might pick one up,,,(and do it now)...most all of there Mac products are on (back to school sales)...I am so happy to finally get a new luck ass Mac..I went for the highe 512 sad option,,,and a Thunder bolt display was on sale also...now I have the best of both...