Apple would never drop the number from the iPhone. It simply makes no sense. For example if the galaxy S had no number, I would be, along with many others, confused as to which is the newest model. If this iPhone is called "The New iPhone" will the next model be called "The Newer iPhone"?
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Apple would never drop the number from the iPhone. It simply makes no sense. For example if the galaxy S had no number, I would be, along with many others, confused as to which is the newest model. If this iPhone is called "The New iPhone" will the next model be called "The Newer iPhone"?
I haven't really had any trouble. When I ordered mine it shipped the same day and I got it 2 days later, I paid 20$ extra for 2 day shipping (3-5 days was free), but given that the rMBP is about 20$ cheaper there, it was a fair bargain.
I gave them an old skype number I don't use anymore and so far I haven't gotten any email spam from them either. As for validating my order, I used Amazon checkout and maybe that doesn't require validation as long as your Amazon account is validated...
Either way, given the stock availability, and quick shipping, I'll probably use them again in the future. My online ordering experience on the Apple Store has never been that smooth or fast... hehe
I'm not saying they are the best retailer or anything, but I judge by what I see, and what I've seen has been ultrafast shipping and delivery.
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Actually - they did drop the number on the iPad.. After all the "new iPad" is not called iPad 3, it's just called iPad, and most Apple folk calls it "the new iPad". All the while, "real people" call it iPad 3.
Although on a side note - in Sweden one the largest pc/game/electronics retailers catering to more nerdy folk, (webhallen), calls it iPad 3, but that's because they don't really depend on Apple at all. All "Authorized" Apple Retailers just call it iPad or "the new iPad".
I'm curious as to what the next new iPad will be called.. The Newer iPad? The New iPad 2? iPad 2 2nd generation? Lolz.
1. Wow, BTO recommendation? You do realize that aftermarket RAM is essentially the same as Apple RAM. Just because it's Apple RAM doesn't make it any better. What a total waste, everyone knows Apple RAM is overpriced and not of any difference in quality.
2. While you have a point on pricing (a whole 30 dollars worth) it's not exactly convenient for professionals (pro btw) to have to take time out of their schedule to have Apple do this. Most professionals are competent enough to replace a battery.
3. Once again you are saying that BTO is the way to go. You don't have to be poor in order to not want to burn your hard earned cash on Apple tax. Apple's SSD are no different from aftermarket drives, there's no quality difference that warrants the pricing for BTO options from Apple. If you want to burn your cash, go for it. When it comes down to it you're just doing it for a retina display, one that will ultimately come to fruition on all product lines from Apple.
Also just because I have the laptop in my sig does not mean I am not capable of digesting and reading the vast number of posts on here pertaining to the professional individuals and groups that rely on the device. Storage is king for any kind of professional user (once again, it's a Professional grade laptop.. maybe), base line simply isn't enough. Burn your cash on the apple tax to fix it if you like, but some of us like to make money with our money.
4. Once again, it's a professional grade computer. Individuals still require an optical drive and shouldn't be forced to pay extra for it, if anything Apple should be shipping this "Pro" with a free drive.
If it's not a functional work horse out of the box, it's not a professional grade laptop.
Also I find it hilarious that you truly believe this computer is from the future, I imagine the GPU might be able to keep up with the display in the future. If the future is this laptop I'd rather not go there. Once again, as mentioned above, it's not being able afford something, it's the ethics of saving your hard earned cash for investments rather than burning it up for a subpar device. If the retina screen is really worth all those sacrifices to you, just admit you got an Air on your hands with a nice screen. This is not a professional laptop. In the end it comes down to "common sense".
I whole-heartedly disagree. In the tech community it was the lack of redesign. But 9/10 people that arent tech savvy expected an "iPhone 5". I know of many many people that were angry/disappointed/etc and they didn't ever mention hardware, just that based on the name they didnt picture a worthwhile upgrade.
The clueless idiots' opinions are the ones that matter when stock price jumps are involved, whether those be up or down.
Remember, most people dont watch keynotes. They heard on the radio that day last October "well Apple fans are disappointed as they didn't get the iPhone 5 they expected." People who just regurgitate news kept saying how disappointing it was,etc. There is no way to prove either of us right or wrong but the general masses definitely cared more about the name than the actual phone.
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This is the most FUTURE READY laptop available, NOT the most LEGACY compatible!!!
You may well disagree but your presumption is that Apple stock is a noise traded stock. I work in Financial Services and your attitude is that of a noise trader. That's not who it works and that is one of many variables that drive it.
I'm not even going to start this discussion because I have yet to read a comment regarding stock with any merit.
1. You should have read my first point until the end. Try to find aftermarket 8GB DDR3L-1600 SODDIMs. They are not available right now, and when they will we have no idea how much they will cost. And you just have validated my point, your complain is about money.
2. You have to replace your battery like once in 3-4 years, probably only once in its lifecycle. If your employer has the budget to buy you a 2-3k$ laptop, he probably has the budget to find you a spot to change its battery once in the like 5 years you will own it. If you work for a serious company that orders lots of Macs, chances are they could also get an Apple tech come and change it for you.
3. Again, money is the issue so you're saying I'm right.
4. "Professional" doesn't mean anything other than you use it for your profession. Not all professions require you to read optical media while on the go. Apple would only include the external drive if they hiked the price of the laptop itself, which they wouldn't do since they believe in a optical-free future.
It can be a professional grade laptop. It depends on your profession. If yours won't allow you to have it then don't buy it, but saying it's inappropriate for any profession is nonsense.
Yes, I think this computer is from the future. You seem to have misunderstood my analogy. The MacBook Air when it was introduced in 2008 also had sub-par CPU and GPU compared to 2012 ultrabooks. What it stole from the future is the concept of a super-thin yet powerful computer with custom hardware like ULV CPU, soldered RAM, no optical drive, SSD, etc, with a focus on fast boot times/wake up and battery life.
It took some time for that hardware to become mainstream enough to offer the MacBook Air at a competitive price, but it finally happened. A 2008 MacBook Air with 64GB SSD used to cost 3099$. The 999$ 64GB 11" MBA now blows the 2008 model out of the water in terms of performance. Even now Intel ships more LV mobile CPU than ULV ones, even though they said CPUs with 17W TDP were their new focus for mainstream laptops. It will probably take until around 2014 until most laptop sold have SSD and ULV CPUs. Then we could say the concept of the MacBook Air was 8 years in advance on the mainstream market. People simply didn't buy it because it was too expensive.
I think the same will happen to the rMBP. Right now it's kind of a proof of concept that has his own issues like the MBA used to have in 2008, and most people wouldn't even consider it because of its price, but that will slowly change with time. We will eventually start seeing similar laptops from other manufacturers, and in a couple of years every OEM will have its own laptop that is super-thin yet has powerful components, a HiDPI display, no optical drive nor ethernet port, soldered RAM, etc. and they will eventually be offered at a mainstream price, then another proof of concept form factor will be introduced, and so on.
Some early adopters are willing to make those sacrifices. If you're not one of them, just wait until the rest of the industry catches up with Apple's vision and buy one then. It will be cheaper then, and offer a more powerful CPU and GPU, more storage, and they'll be a ton of HiDPI-optimized apps.
What I'm saying is no need to bash a computer because it's too early for its time. No one is forcing you to be an early adopter. The same kind of bashing was made towards the MacBook Air in 2008 and look where it's at now. People love it. It leads its category in part because Apple has 4 years of experience making that kind of computer, while other manufacturers are at their first or second attempt.
I don't think you know what you are talking about.
Most professionals also regularly backup their work. This is a non-issue.
east85: "I simply will not pay the prices Apple charges on their BTO Macs!"
I can give you a MBPR with a 128 Exabytes SSD inside and you'll still complain it's too small.
First world problems
You're holding it wrong.
Care to explain? I struggle to find a sliver of this so-called "common sense" in your post.
FYI, I bought mine about 2 weeks ago and it was the 16GB version. Not at an Apple Store but on an electronics store in Portugal so I guess they might ship some since they had one available.
I'm nearly 100% sure that "The New" won't be a part of the name. It wasn't part of the name of the new iPad.
If they drop the number the name of the new iPhone will be "iPhone".
The name of the model after that will be "iPhone."
Check the Apple website and see how they treat the new iPad. Sometimes it is the new iPad, and sometimes it is just iPad. "New" is not part of the name, any more than "White" is part of the name of the white iPad.
If you buy one, you can name your own personal iPad "The New iPad" if you like, but if that confuses you later when you buy another, remember you did it to yourself.
You are wasting your time with East85.
The subject has been discussed ad nauseam and it is clear that this person doesn't get that this is not the machine for him.
All of what he complains about is not in the rMBP is available in a regular MBP, minus the Retina display. (That will come as soon as factory yields expand and prices for Retina displays come down.
Really a non issue for people who can think, analyze and make their choice based on what is actually available and what they need, instead of complaining that it's not what they would like. Wah, wah, wah!
They'll know because of something called Context. If we're talking about our first ever smartphones, I'll know you mean the original iPhone (which you can call the "original" or "2008" iPhone, if you want). If we're talking about the phone you left at the bar last night, I'll assume you mean your 6th generation "iPhone", not the one you recycled 3 years ago.
No change once you ordered. I ordered mine at the end of June with a July 26 - Aug 2 delivery. It was shipped yesterday with a July 26th delivery date.
Hope that helps.
Returned models wouldn't go into New stock to be sent to new buyers. They'd go to the Refurb online store, or to Apple Stores to replace faulty models being brought in under Apple Care.
You're right, no amount of arguing will probably change the fact that he's not interested in the rMBP. What I would like to see being changed, however, is the attitude some people have.
It's like they need to bash what they don't buy in an attempt to justify them not buying it, like it's that hard to just tell yourself "This computer isn't for me" and move on.
To each is own opinion, but spamming in comments of articles that have nothing to do with the subject certainly is inappropriate. This article is about shipping estimates, and it baffles me that his troll comment which has nothing to do with the topic was rated the top comment when I read it (it's now number 2).
Macrumors has a very large and active community (the largest Apple-related internet community?) and Arn's reporting is top-notch, but seriously the quality and relevance of comments are terrible. It reminds me of Engadget.
still waiting...
I ordered through our preferred reseller as an Enterprise purchase on June 21. I have been told July 31 as a delivery date - I hope it arrives this week but it will be touch and go whether the MBPr or Mountain Lion arrives first. In a way I hope ML comes first, then I can just skip Lion altogether.
I ordered through our preferred reseller as an Enterprise purchase on June 21. I have been told July 31 as a delivery date - I hope it arrives this week but it will be touch and go whether the MBPr or Mountain Lion arrives first. In a way I hope ML comes first, then I can just skip Lion altogether.
Do you feel better now?
I have a feeling you can't afford it anyways, McDonald's pay scale is quite low.
I still buy DVDs and CDs that get ripped on my Mac at home. However, I cannot even remember when was the last time that I used an optical drive professionally. Oh, I do: It was when I installed MacOS X 10.5 on a Mac. That's ages ago.
Even at home, I don't need an optical drive on every computer. I need _one_ optical drive in my household. That's enough. And you can get an external optical drive for £15 (CD and DVD reader / writer) that works just fine with every Mac.
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Just want to set the record straight the new iPad is simply the "iPad".
It is simply referred to as "The new iPad" because it is new. In Fact when you order a new iPad it is called the "iPad (Third Generation)". Much like the iPod Touch has been referred to by generation for a long time. That is how we find out what the "Newest iPad" is . Potentially the next "newest iPad" will be "The New iPad" as well because it will be new then.
Just want to set the record straight the new iPad is simply the "iPad".
It is simply referred to as "The new iPad" because it is new. In Fact when you order a new iPad it is called the "iPad (Third Generation)". Much like the iPod Touch has been referred to by generation for a long time. That is how we find out what the "Newest iPad" is . Potentially the next "newest iPad" will be "The New iPad" as well because it will be new then.
I was wondering about that. If you are locked in 3 - 4 weeks will they hold you to that shipping estimate?
I actually called Apple Sales and they gave me free 2-3 day shipping (which is the best you can do with them coming from China...)
Well said. About the display "lag", I forgot to include the actual time it takes to switch (or polarize) a LCD pixel. So you're right, maybe it take many microseconds to send a signal to the LCD display, but whole milliseconds for the LCD to actually react. I guess todays LCD are generally around 4-8 milliseconds now. That is good enough for 120 to 240 fps, or exactly 125 to 250 Hz.