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No, I will try it later on today. I do have some sad news to report: It appears youtube will not work anymore on my PowerBook G4 which I tested 3 months ago - I am getting blank boxes - something that has not happened before. I also tested the G5 Quad and its performance is more than dismal.. I am surprised, very surprised for a quad 2.5 that the internet is bringing it to its knees.. I tested both of these 3 months ago and I was able to play 1080p even 1440p in webkit. now, its not working.. Any ideas to get the PB G4 1.67 to work again and the Quad ? TenFourFox is a joke - its so slow and Cameron doesn't want to admit it - but on a G5 Quad, I would have expected EXCELLENT performance. i was wrong.
 
No, I will try it later on today. I do have some sad news to report: It appears youtube will not work anymore on my PowerBook G4 which I tested 3 months ago - I am getting blank boxes - something that has not happened before. I also tested the G5 Quad and its performance is more than dismal.. I am surprised, very surprised for a quad 2.5 that the internet is bringing it to its knees.. I tested both of these 3 months ago and I was able to play 1080p even 1440p in webkit. now, its not working.. Any ideas to get the PB G4 1.67 to work again and the Quad ? TenFourFox is a joke - its so slow and Cameron doesn't want to admit it - but on a G5 Quad, I would have expected EXCELLENT performance. i was wrong.

All the info you need is searchable in this forum. There's no way things have gotten that much worse in three months - if that seems to be your case, your OS installs are broken.
 
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I know nothing about tinkering with PPC.. I just want it to work !!!! and that can't be done.. I tested these 2 machines 3-5 months ago and they were able to play youtube, at least the G5 was.. and now nothing is usable anymore.. can someone tell me why they are doing this to us and why we can't fight back ??? The only way to get back the internet the way it was and for us to enjoy our powerpc machines is to take out those who are causing this to us. Now, my blood pressure is rising even more.. I have a 55 lb paperweight, a PB G4 1.67 that was playing youtube 4-5 months ago. WHAT HAPPENED TO MACTUBES ?? WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUVIEW??? Why did these developers drop off the face of the earthy.. I am sick of using an intel mac.. I want to use a PPC mac...
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All the info you need is searchable in this forum. There's no way things have gotten that much worse in three months - if that seems to be your case, your OS installs are broken.

They were fine.. I tested them - My Leopard installs are fine - everything 3-5 months ago checked out perfectly.. Yes, I am using mechanical drives in these machines.. I don't know if an ssd WILL make a difference - it won't bring back mac tubes and youtube pleasure. This is no longer a Pismo issue, its a PPC issue.. i feel we are being SYSTEMATICALLY destroyed. I mean, tenfourfox brings my quad G5 to its knees and I had that machine for over 10 years now. Never have I seen this at all.. How come my Gateway 7805u FX has no issue ? Is it because its a PC ? I don't know what to think of. Yes, i read the PowerPC faqs on the forum, but I see they are mostly 3-5 years old.. a time when things were doing good - mactubes for instance.
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All the info you need is searchable in this forum. There's no way things have gotten that much worse in three months - if that seems to be your case, your OS installs are broken.

Even playing youtube on the G5 www.m.youtube.com did not solve anything. lets face it, they got us good.. and google will burn for it.. trust me, they will burn for it.. and for each intel mac out there I hope ARM mops the floor with Intel because Intel is the reason why I hate Apple so much..
 
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Maybe we should all get on our hands and knees and beg Amiga to allow us to run their OS.. Maybe that might be a good idea since they got it right and Apple did not. Just a thought.. Can Amiga OS run on PPC Macs ?
 
Maybe we should all get on our hands and knees and beg Amiga to allow us to run their OS.. Maybe that might be a good idea since they got it right and Apple did not. Just a thought.. Can Amiga OS run on PPC Macs ?
Amiga OS never worked on Mac. What you're probably thinking of is MorphOS, an Amiga OS-like operating system. Yeah, that does work on Powermacs. Don't expect any miracles, they've got pretty much the same web browser problems we do.

Oh, and it's only free for the first 30 minutes, if you want to keep using it, they want 80 Euros.
 
There's a leaked version of AmigaOS 4 that supposedly installs and runs on a Mac mini.

And to the best of my understanding, it only ever barely worked on that one model. I wouldn't really say that counts. Like, if I understand it right, it didn't even have sound. Fairly impressive hack though.
 
And to the best of my understanding, it only ever barely worked on that one model. I wouldn't really say that counts. Like, if I understand it right, it didn't even have sound. Fairly impressive hack though.

Fair point - I just posted this to show that it does run on a Mac, even if just barely.
 
Fair point - I just posted this to show that it does run on a Mac, even if just barely.
You're technically correct, the best kind of correct, but I really want to emphasize the "just barely" part of that. Seriously though, if you're looking for PPC Amiga OS support, MortphOS on a Power Mac is the easiest way to get it these days. My understanding is that, beyond having trouble with funky graphics modes, it can handle most Amiga apps, 68k or PPC. The problem is that they're even more SOL when it comes to a web browser. OWB, their main browser is more out of date than TenFourFox, unless I've missed something.
 
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I know nothing about tinkering with PPC.. I just want it to work !!!! and that can't be done. [...] WHAT HAPPENED TO MACTUBES ?? WHAT HAPPENED TO YOUVIEW??? Why did these developers drop off the face of the earthy.. I am sick of using an intel mac.. I want to use a PPC Mac...

With a fresh installation of TenFourFox (mind the different versions for G3-G5) and TenFourFoxBox for single window-browser, and with a fresh installation of Leopard-Webkit (which also includes latest certificates) browsing should be good on your Quad-G5 and decent on Your DSDL.
For YouTube/Leopard there's TenFiveTube.

Maybe before installation remove any previous installations with AppCleaner.
 
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Amiga OS never worked on Mac. What you're probably thinking of is MorphOS, an Amiga OS-like operating system. Yeah, that does work on Powermacs. Don't expect any miracles, they've got pretty much the same web browser problems we do.

Oh, and it's only free for the first 30 minutes, if you want to keep using it, they want 80 Euros.

What does this translate into dollars ? How would I even pay since its in euros ?
 
What does this translate into dollars ? How would I even pay since its in euros ?
Per the help section:
Boot MorphOS and launch the included RegTool application (in the Tools drawer). Fill out the form and register. You will receive a validation email and after a successful validation, an email with PayPal link.

So, either Paypal does the conversion (expensive) or your bank does the conversion depending upon how you have set up Paypal. The default is Paypal does the conversion and gives you a rubbish rate. But since MorphOS lacks a modern browser, the question is probably moot unless you have a lot of old Amiga software you want to reacquaint yourself with again.
 
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never owned an Amiga. Owned a TI-99/4A back then. But, then again I was busy taking Esol classes for english. I was originally born in the USSR.
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Their OS is nice. Though, not like Leopard or even OS 9.
 
See for yourself how it handles on my Powerbook - note, this was a few months back, I no longer have that machine.

MorphOS is a perfectly good OS with a wide software library, and still receives a level of support that, in my honest opinion, is generally superior to what Debian and Ubuntu are offering for PPC Mac. It can even run a good amount of the old 68k Amiga apps, though if you need anything that used Picasso support, I believe you need to break out an emulator for that.

But the fact remains, while it's probably the cheapest way to get anywhere near the modern Amiga OS, seriously, look up the prices of proper PPC Amiga hardware, they're worse off when it comes to a web browser. And it makes sense, most of that community seems focused on keeping their old 68k hardware alive and running better than ever. There never was a mainstream PPC Amiga. The company died first.

Honestly, the Amiga and everything connected to it has fascinated me nearly as long as the Mac, but there never seemed to be an easy way in.
 
but there never seemed to be an easy way in.

WinUAE on an old AMD/Pentium M...or E-UAE JIT on any 1Ghz+ Mac ? Having the hardware is great...but so expensive now...ten years ago I was selling fully loaded Amigas (expanded RAM/CF drives) on ebay for less than £20...similar setups now start at around £150.
Emulation saves a lot of config headaches too and the full benefit of the host I/O.
 
Emulation saves a lot of config headaches too and the full benefit of the host I/O.
Oh, you're not wrong about emulation, but Amigas and their reliance on floppies never really let me immerse myself in the OS the way a Mac Emulator would. If anything, when you're gaming with an Amiga, you rarely touch Workbench. And honestly, that feels like a bit of a shame.
 
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I'm not sure what you mean? Amiga's could use floppies or an HDD...and emulators can use floppy images, folders or emulated hard drives.
I mean, when you set up Mac OS 7 or 8, you can sort of live there, installing games and apps to the virtual drive that you installed the os to, or maybe another partition names apps, or games, or whatnot. With Amiga, you boot off of floppies so much that it feels like you're spending all your setup in the host os, getting it all working there.

I'm talking about immersion.
 
With Amiga, you boot off of floppies so much that it feels like you're spending all your setup in the host os, getting it all working there.

It depends how you set it up - you can have a set up where boot directly into the emulated Workbench and never see the host OS. As I say, the only use floppy images if you want to - and you either have them at hand in a folder or you download them inside Workbench, you can launch floppy based games directly with WHDLoad.
 
Maybe we should all get on our hands and knees and beg Amiga to allow us to run their OS.. Maybe that might be a good idea since they got it right and Apple did not. Just a thought.. Can Amiga OS run on PPC Macs ?
Now Amiga OS - really? "Out of the pan into the fire ...!"
 
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Maybe we should all get on our hands and knees and beg Amiga to allow us to run their OS.. Maybe that might be a good idea since they got it right and Apple did not.
What is "it" that they got right and Apple did not, just out of interest?
 
Sorry, I will clarify - Apple very quickly getting rid of PowerPC where as Amiga never got rid of PowerPC and they still use it to this day. I don’t know much about AmigaOS, all I know is that it is a supported OS and runs on PPC processors and that it would be nice if they ported a Mac PPC version.
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Now Amiga OS - really? "Out of the pan into the fire ...!"

It was an idea since their OS runs on PowerPC processors.
 
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