Returned X.... Going to Samsung (runs away...!)

[Puddled]

We're talking about replying to notifications and tbh and my personal opinion about the LED is I couldn't care less. I pick up my phone and I can see my notifications. I don't need a tiny little light flashing to tell me I have notifications when I can see them anyway.

But yeah I did see the post about having too many colours LOL

The charging LED is very handy for wireless. Lets you know whats going on at a glance.

With regards to replying to notifications, i assume this is based on the latest OS versions?

On Nougat, i can reply and respond straight from the notification once unlocked.

Works very well.

 

[convergent]

Didn't read any of this, but it's clear you're being fairly defensive. I'm not trying to make you look bad - I just think the alternative section is a better place for you than the iPhone forum, considering what you own and the nature of the posts you're making. Honestly, the Note 8 has its own thread, why not use it?

Who exactly do you think you are? I don't see any moderator or staff label. I will participate where I wish. You take the time to list a bunch of out of context posts that I've made trying to make me look bad. I take the time to reply to everyone of them. You say I look defensive and don't read it?

Have a nice "suckfest" life there. Going on my ignore list.

 

[mattysmith118]

The charging LED is very handy for wireless. Lets you know whats going on at a glance.

Most wireless pads have lights that tells you whats happening anyway..

I'm not sure what Nougat is?

 

[convergent]

Most wireless pads have lights that tells you whats happening anyway..

I'm not sure what Nougat is?

Nougat is Version 7 of Android.

 

[mattysmith118]

Nougat is Version 7 of Android.

Haha I knew that *slaps face*

Been a long day

 

[Suckfest 9001]

Who exactly do you think you are? I don't see any moderator or staff label. I will participate where I wish. You take the time to list a bunch of out of context posts that I've made trying to make me look bad. I take the time to reply to everyone of them. You say I look defensive and don't read it?

Have a nice "suckfest" life there. Going on my ignore list.

Honestly you've been constantly replying with negative posts to my replies throughout the forums, and it's gotten a little stale lately. Having you put me on your ignore list actually benefits me in some ways.
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Most wireless pads have lights that tells you whats happening anyway..

I'm not sure what Nougat is?

Kinda wish they let you turn that light off. Kinda annoying to use some of them at night at the bedside

 

[convergent]

As I said, the Note is sitting on my desk with the screen off....
wake device,
double tap on icon,
pick up Note,
fingerprint unlock,
slide down the notification shade,
find notification I want,
then interact with it... which most of the time leads me into the main app anyway.

Let's count now... That's 7 actions before you can interact with your notification.

On an iPhone I tap the screen or lift the device, 3D touch on notification. Done.

2 steps. Which is faster?

You seem to be picking a specific scenario that makes the Note 8 take way more steps than is necessary if you chose other options. In all cases you don't need to wake the device if you have AOD turned on.

When I'm at my desk, I always put the Note 8 in the wireless charger and I can skip your first 3 steps. I simply touch the FPS, and I'm on the Home screen immediately, because that is the way it is configured. If the phone is flat then I can glance at it while hitting home and iris scan gets me to the same place... which is one motion. I have the lock screen turned off because I always go to Home when I unlock.

Depending on someone's specific needs, they may find one or the other better or worse... that's why its good to have choices. If you prefer iOS notifications, that's great.
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Wait, don't the Galaxy phones have finger scanners on the BACK? How do you unlock those while the phone is on the desk?

If its in charger, the FPS is easily accessible. But, you also have several other unlocking modes. I use iris together with FPS, but there is also face (not as secure and I didn't care for it) or location based (which was disabled when I connected to my company's Exchange server). The combo of FPS and iris works well for me.

 

[Puddled]

There's a simple solution to all this for the sake of our mental health

Whilst i have no beef or allegiance with either you or Convergent, the above is a classic example of negative forumming. Let's not go down that road eh......

 

[mattysmith118]

Kinda wish they let you turn that light off. Kinda annoying to use some of them at night at the bedside

Imagine having your phone flash a light at you 24/7

 

[Puddled]

Kinda wish they let you turn that light off. Kinda annoying to use some of them at night at the bedside

For my €0.75c charger, The Phone LEDS tell you if the phone is charged or not. The Charger LEDs tell me its on (red) and (wirelessly) connected to the phone (blue).
The charger LEDS are a PITA. They are super bright at night and i have taped over them.

 

[Suckfest 9001]

Whilst i have no beef or allegiance with either you or Convergent, the above is a classic example of negative forumming. Let's not go down that road eh......

Completely the opposite. He is constantly posting negatively on iPhone threads despite having never even touched the iPhone X.. suggesting more appropriate forums is not "negative forumming"

beef or allegiance? come on now, this isnt a rap video
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For my €0.75c charger, The Phone LEDS tell you if the phone is charged or not. The Charger LEDs tell me its on (red) and (wirelessly) connected to the phone (blue).
The charger LEDS are a PITA. They are super bright at night and i have taped over them.

And they flicker all night as the phone does its trickle charging stuff. Super irritating.

 

[Blondie&Dagwood]

"I have not touched an X"

... true... .

You had me until this part, then everything else you said went straight out the window

 

[Puddled]

beef or allegiance? come on now, this isnt a rap video...

Stop it lol.

 

[Barnfather]

I think much depends upon how bought in you are to Apples ecosystem.

The top-end Apple phone and top-end Android phones will always be comparable, and much will come down to personal taste regarding design etc.

If you are not invested in the Apple world that much, then it's a straight choice - no one is better than the other, or at least it becomes a subjective choice.

But like many people, I'm all-in when it comes to Apple. I have a MBP, an iMac, an iPad Pro, Apple Watch. All my photos are either in iPhoto or iCloud, I've bought a ton of music on iTunes, most of my close friends and family have Apple phones (iMessage), I have hundreds of Notes on my phone with ideas or info and so on. To someone like me - and I am hardly unique - then Android phones would be a terrible choice due to the hassle factor more than the phone itself. Things like Handoff are great for me, using my Watch to unlock my Mac and the list goes on. Moving platforms wouldn't make any sense unless the Android phone was SIGNIFICANTLY better, which they are not.

I also have a Samsung android phone for work, and it's okay but I much prefer IOS. That may just be down to familiarisation or personal taste. The best thing about the work phone is the Samsung case I bought where the edges light up neon orange up when calls/texts come in. It would be great for a similar thing to exist for the iPhone, but it doesn't, sadly.

The same would be true of someone coming the other way of course. So unless you are not invested in either platform and the phone choice is purely down to looks/affordability/key-features, it's more a choice regarding *platform* than it is *phone*.

I wouldn't knock anyone for going down the Android route - they are great phones these days - but it wouldn't be for me.

 

[convergent]

You had me until this part, then everything else you said went straight out the window

The ONLY thing I've said about the X is based on its specs and form factor, which I don't care for. I don't need to use it, to have opinions about it. I have not made any comments about its functionality. I have made comments about other iPhones, for which I have a great deal of experience.

Feel free to put me on your ignore list if what I said went straight out the window. You can be one step closer to total isolation from anyone that doesn't agree with you. And if that is what you want, then why enter into a discussion that is clearly talking about Apple vs. Samsung phones.

 

[Suckfest 9001]

The ONLY thing I've said about the X is based on its specs and form factor, which I don't care for. I don't need to use it, to have opinions about it. I have not made any comments about its functionality. I have made comments about other iPhones, for which I have a great deal of experience.

Feel free to put me on your ignore list if what I said went straight out the window. You can be one step closer to total isolation from anyone that doesn't agree with you. And if that is what you want, then why enter into a discussion that is clearly talking about Apple vs. Samsung phones.

One can argue that your lack of having personally used an iPhone X renders your opinions on it moot. That's probably why he stopped reading there. It's certainly why I did as well.

 

[mazdamiata210]

You seem to be picking a specific scenario that makes the Note 8 take way more steps than is necessary if you chose other options. In all cases you don't need to wake the device if you have AOD turned on.

When I'm at my desk, I always put the Note 8 in the wireless charger and I can skip your first 3 steps. I simply touch the FPS, and I'm on the Home screen immediately, because that is the way it is configured. If the phone is flat then I can glance at it while hitting home and iris scan gets me to the same place... which is one motion. I have the lock screen turned off because I always go to Home when I unlock.

Depending on someone's specific needs, they may find one or the other better or worse... that's why its good to have choices. If you prefer iOS notifications, that's great.
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If its in charger, the FPS is easily accessible. But, you also have several other unlocking modes. I use iris together with FPS, but there is also face (not as secure and I didn't care for it) or location based (which was disabled when I connected to my company's Exchange server). The combo of FPS and iris works well for me.

Okay since everyone has a problem with how I use my phone let's use it the way YOU want me to use it...

The Note is sitting on my desk with the always on display just raping my battery away....
double tap on icon,
pick up Note,
no security, who needs it anyway?
slide down the notification shade,
find notification I want,
then interact with it... which most of the time leads me into the main app anyway.

STILL 5 STEPS THAT LEAVES ME INSIDE AN APP

iPhone?

Wake screen,
Interact with notification ON THE LOCK SCREEN.
Done.

Again, which is faster?

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On Samsung using aod scenario, it is also 2 steps (or 3 if you need to lift up phone so Iris/face can work).
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If you do this, no preview at all. On Android, you can have preview but if you try to modify/reply, you need security. Do you have this option in iPhone?

Read above... And yes, we do have this option on an iPhone. It will only show the content of a notification if the phone is unlocked. Even with that on it's still less steps and more secure.

 

[mib1800]

Moving platforms wouldn't make any sense unless the Android phone was SIGNIFICANTLY better, which they are not.

But if you are not in Apple ecosystem already, Apple hardware is SIGNIFICANTLY more expensive but giving less or equal what android can provide. Unless you are tied down to apple eco-system already, otherwise many of the the pro Iphone arguments that iFans used can be watered down to inconsequential.

Majority outside of the US don't use apple products at all (or at best they have some but not complete suite of hardware). No matter how you look at it, for these people buying iphone dont make sense if you are talking about how they will benefit from the super-duper the Apple "eco-system". Fact is iphone is dead-in-the-water if you don't have all the other Apple hardware to complement it. In this case usability of Iphone is much much worse than android. e.g with Galaxy phone you can implement apple continuity/hand-off functionality on existing desktop hardware. With iphone you can't unless you spend more money to buy a Mac.

Unless that person is totally engrossed in Apple eco-system, otherwise paying twice the price of S8 for an iphone X doesnt make sense if you look at it from a rational, utility and value for money point of view.

So unless you are not invested in either platform and the phone choice is purely down to looks/affordability/key-features, it's more a choice regarding *platform* than it is *phone*.

I wouldn't knock anyone for going down the Android route - they are great phones these days - but it wouldn't be for me.

When you say "invested", it applies to iphone / apple platform ONLY. There is really no "invested" in the context you said on Android since android phones work with whatever hardware you have NOW. You don't have to "invest" other than paying for the phone itself.
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Okay since everyone has a problem with how I use my phone let's use it the way YOU want me to use it...

The Note is sitting on my desk with the always on display just raping my battery away....
double tap on icon,
pick up Note,
no security, who needs it anyway?
slide down the notification shade,
find notification I want,
then interact with it... which most of the time leads me into the main app anyway.

STILL 5 STEPS THAT LEAVES ME INSIDE AN APP

iPhone?

Wake screen,
Interact with notification ON THE LOCK SCREEN.
Done.

Again, which is faster?

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Read above... And yes, we do have this option on an iPhone. It will only show the content of a notification if the phone is unlocked. Even with that on it's still less steps and more secure.

In the words of Apple -

"You are reading it WRONG" - Didnt I just write the scenarios for shortest way to do it in 2 or 3 steps?
"You are doing it WRONG" - Obvious you have not used a galaxy with AOD.

 

[840quadra]

When you say "invested", it only applies to iphone / apple platform ONLY. There is no really no "invested" in the context you said on Android since android phones work with whatever hardware you have NOW. You don't have to "invest" other than paying for the phone itself.

That's interesting. So the $20 I spent on apps for my Pixel was actually all free?

Sorry, but for some people investment in apps and changing platforms is an actual expense, especially if you are after solid applications from a few key developers.

 

[mib1800]

That's interesting. So the $20 I spent on apps for my Pixel was actually all free?

Sorry, but for some people investment in apps and changing platforms is an actual expense, especially if you are after solid applications from a few key developers.

Sorry, I was talking more about hardware. Fine, if you have invested "hundreds" of dollars on apps in Android. 🙂

 

[Blondie&Dagwood]

The ONLY thing I've said about the X is based on its specs and form factor, which I don't care for. I don't need to use it, to have opinions about it. I have not made any comments about its functionality. I have made comments about other iPhones, for which I have a great deal of experience.

Feel free to put me on your ignore list if what I said went straight out the window. You can be one step closer to total isolation from anyone that doesn't agree with you. And if that is what you want, then why enter into a discussion that is clearly talking about Apple vs. Samsung phones.

What are you talking about man? The OP claimed to be moving to Samsung because sepecifically of the X, so yes, the X is relevant to this thread. It’s okay though man, the problem is that we haven’t been there for you. You needed us in a time of need and we weren’t there for you. Everything is going to be okay from now onwards as we are all supporting you and will always be right here for you.

What I was saying is that in my eyes you lost all credibility in the context of this thread when you admitted to never even picking the damm thing up, and at that point I stopped caring for your opinion on the X. Why, well because if you haven’t even tried it out in person, then your opinion becomes irelevent to the rest of us. I was convinced that getting rid of the Home bottom and replacing TouchID with FaceID was a step backwards until I actually had it in my hands and realized then that it was actually a giant leap forwards. Within minutes the home button and touchID were distant memories and two functions I don’t miss. That’s all. I’m sure you do have a great deal of experience with other iphones. In fact, if you say you do, then damm I believe you - You da man!

 

[convergent]

What are you talking about man? The OP claimed to be moving to Samsung because sepecifically of the X, so yes, the X is relevant to this thread. It’s okay though man, the problem is that we haven’t been there for you. You needed us in a time of need and we weren’t there for you. Everything is going to be okay from now onwards as we are all supporting you and will always be right here for you.

What I was saying is that in my eyes you lost all credibility in the context of this thread when you admitted to never even picking the damm thing up, and at that point I stopped caring for your opinion on the X. Why, well because if you haven’t even tried it out in person, then your opinion becomes irelevent to the rest of us. I was convinced that getting rid of the Home bottom and replacing TouchID with FaceID was a step backwards until I actually had it in my hands and realized then that it was actually a giant leap forwards. Within minutes the home button and touchID were distant memories and two functions I don’t miss. That’s all. I’m sure you do have a great deal of experience with other iphones. In fact, if you say you do, then damm I believe you - You da man!

This is ridiculous. I don't know why I'm explaining this again.

This thread ... X and Note 8. I just retired my 6s+ and my short list included the X, 8+, note 8, and Pixel 2. I chose the Note 8. I have interest in how people evaluating the same devices have gotten on with their choice. Someone in this thread asked about experience of others switching from iPhone to a Note 8. Not X, but any iPhone. I did that. I shared my experience. To be clear, I said I had not used an X. That adds a little context. Good God, if you don't care to hear about my experience then please hit the ignore button.

 

[mazdamiata210]

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In the words of Apple -

"You are reading it WRONG" - Didnt I just write the scenarios for shortest way to do it in 2 or 3 steps?
"You are doing it WRONG" - Obvious you have not used a galaxy with AOD.

So since you know alot about what I do, tell me how I'm wrong and how I'm supposed to use my phone the way you want me to.

I get a text, there's a notification bubble on the always on display...

1. I double tap the bubble, it asks for security authentication.

Follow me so far? Good.

2. Now I have to pick up my phone off the desk

3. I authenticate with either a finger print, passcode, or face scan.

4. Then I slide down my notifications

Still following me? How wrong am I so far?

5. Find said notification for my text

6. Swipe down to see the reply button

7. Press reply and type my message in a little box inside the notification shade.

8. Lock my phone and repeat the process every single time.

OR...

On my iPhone,

I get a text and my screen lights up

1. I 3D touch on it

2. Type my reply

Done.

I'll ask for the last time. Which is faster?

Even if I disabled security on the Note, it's still more steps, takes longer, and leaves you inside the phone rather than at the lock screen.

 

[mib1800]

So since you know alot about what I do, tell me how I'm wrong and how I'm supposed to use my phone the way you want me to.

I get a text, there's a notification bubble on the always on display...

1. I double tap the bubble, it asks for security authentication.

Follow me so far? Good.

2. Now I have to pick up my phone off the desk

3. I authenticate with either a finger print, passcode, or face scan.

4. Then I slide down my notifications

Still following me? How wrong am I so far?

5. Find said notification for my text

6. Swipe down to see the reply button

7. Press reply and type my message in a little box inside the notification shade.

8. Lock my phone and repeat the process every single time.

OR...

On my iPhone,

I get a text and my screen lights up

1. I 3D touch on it

2. Type my reply

Done.

I'll ask for the last time. Which is faster?

Even if I disabled security on the Note, it's still more steps, takes longer, and leaves you inside the phone rather than at the lock screen.

Scenario 1 (android): I get a text and my screen lights up (note: you are now looking at lockscreen with notification)
1. Double-click text notification
2. Lift-up phone (phone unlocks with face/iris)
3. Type reply

Scenario 1 (iphone): I get a text and my screen lights up (note: you are now looking at lockscreen with notification)
1. 3D Touch it
2. Type reply

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Scenario 2 (android): I get a text (but I did not immediately open -screen goes off and AOD screen comes on)
1. Double-click AOD screen text icon
2. Lift-up phone (phone unlocks with face/iris)
3. Type reply

Scenario 2 (iphone): I get a text (but I did not immediately open -screen goes off)
1. Lift/double tap to wake phone
2. Scroll and find text notification intermix with other notifications
3. 3D touch
4. Type reply

 

[mazdamiata210]

Scenario 1 (android): I get a text and my screen lights up (note: you are now looking at lockscreen with notification)
1. Double-click text notification
2. Lift-up phone (phone unlocks with face/iris)
3. Type reply

Scenario 1 (iphone): I get a text and my screen lights up (note: you are now looking at lockscreen with notification)
1. 3D Touch it
2. Type reply

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Scenario 2 (android): I get a text (but I did not immediately open -screen goes off and AOD screen comes on)
1. Double-click AOD screen text icon
2. Lift-up phone (phone unlocks with face/iris)
3. Type reply

Scenario 2 (iphone): I get a text (but I did not immediately open -screen goes off)
1. Lift/double tap to wake phone
2. Scroll and find text notification intermix with other notifications
3. 3D touch
4. Type reply

You're missing a bunch of steps in your android explanation though. Plus like I've said about 7 times already, you can't reply from the lock screen.