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As someone who's been using Android for the past year, I can't wait to jump back into the iOS platform - this will be the phone to do it. New doc connector is fine with me.
 
Yep. The headphone jack should ALWAYS have been at the bottom. People are complaining about it because it's a change. It makes so much more sense on the bottom as most people put their phone into their pocket upside down anyways. I welcome this change!

I was about to write a post angrily blasting the bottom headphone jack. It feels wrong, stupid, everything. But moments before penning my diatribe, I read this post, hesitated and thought for a moment, and reached down into my pocket to see which way my phone was facing. Result: upside-down / head-first, Home button already in contact with the tip of my thumb. You're actually right, doggone it. There are surely some drawbacks to having the headphone port on the bottom, but it's far from a total loss or blunder from the user's perspective. With the port on the bottom and my headphones on, I wouldn't have to turn the phone over when removing or inserting it to/from my pocket.
 
Not disagreeing with you and in some ways I can see the logic in it. I am just wanting to know if you have any source on that.
I personally am pretty indifferent on the placement of the head phone jack. Now USB cord on the phone I like the sides but for head phone jack top or bottom.

I just want to know if you have any source on it.
Yes, let me find an article about it. There were also pictures posted in a different thread on this forum.

I remember that the main point behind that logic was that e.g. when you charge your phone it's better to have both cables coming out from the same side. Also, when you put your phone into your pocket, you usually put it "upside down" (i.e. the home button is at the top) so that when you reach for it you don't have to rotate it.

I'll try to find that article.

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why not go completely wireless?

wireless charge -etc and keep the legacy dock connector for others :eek:
There is no standard for wireless HDMI yet.
 
Which fragmentation is that exactly?

You must mean hardware! Well we're talking about dock connectors and 99.99% of Android use microUSB so that can't be it. Hardware fragmentation that allows you a choice (eww evil, hiss hiss!) in what size and shape phone/tablet you want and allows you to have the latest and greatest hardware available (but who needs a decent sized screen and 4g/LTE anyways??)

No? Must mean software then! Android is soo fragmented, they mostly run TWO different versions! I'm glad all iPhones run iOS 5. Wait they don't? Crap... Well, the ones that do sure have every feature!! Isn't that right Siri on my iPad 3rd gen? Are you there Siri? Hello? Well, they call it iOS 5 so it can't be fragmented, even if it doesn't give you all the features on every device! I KNOW! I SOLVED IT! We'll just update every Android phone to the latest OS! No new features will be added but we'll just CALL it the latest OS. I'm just glad that it's entirely Android's fault and not the carriers and manufacturer's fault that they don't update their phones. If only there was a way to get that pure Android experience on a ~yearly update cycle (just like the great iOS!), we'd call it Nexus but it only exists in theory obviously.

I walk into a store to buy an iPhone today- all models (3GS, 4, 4S) all have ios 5 installed (amd when iOS 6 is released they will all get the updat at the same time on the same day). And that Siri arguement isn't valid since it is a feature on the phone, not a part of the OS thus not making it neccisary to have or not have it to run the latest version of iOS.

I turn over to the Adroid phones in the same store and am likely to see at least three different versions of the Android OS on all the different phones, most running one-two versions old with no hope of ever being able to update.

This is not to say one phone is "better" that the other. It is a completely personal preference to what kind of phone one chooses to phase and use. I love my iPhone but there are some great features on the Android OS and devices that I would love to have as well. In the long run, for me, I have found since I keep my phone for at least two-three years iOS and the iPhone has served me well keeping me up to date with the latest OS while also providing me easy and stable use. But it is really difficult to make an argument against the fact that Amdroid phones are all over the map with os versions. Snce new android phones are released what seems like every month and so many cooks are in the kitchen with Android phones (carrier, handset maker and Google) many get passed over for updates.
 
i bet you apple releases an adaptor to work with the old 30 pin connectors

Cook: "and if you still want to utilize your old 30 pin devices and cables, we have an adaptor for you" ... "priced at only $29.99"
 
The rest of the mobile world has moved away from Proprietary connectors for data transmition and charging. Virtually every Device these days (with some exceptions) uses micro USB.

Why can't apple just conform to an industry standard without the need to define their own every single time?

This has nothing to do with innovation. This is purely a way to create a definate cutt off between new accessories and old accessories, While ensuring your other 3rd party generic USB accessories are also unusable.

I understood when the doc connector came out all those years ago why they did it. the Micro USB standard wasn't quite mainstream and a full USB port was way too big and not usable in the way they wished to build in accessories.

But today there's no excuse for it other than closing off their product line from using thigns not specifically designed for it.

Bad form apple. This is why lots fo people aren't liking you lately and why the competition has been doing so well.
 
Trust me on this one there is no aspect ratio change (there has never been one!)
Trust me there will be a standard dock (There has never been anything else)
Trust me the headphone jack will not move (It's never moved)

The iPhone has never had any of these changes yet....but the iPods have so there is a precedent.

The Nano has had several aspect ratio changes. The iPod classic line has also.

The original iPods used firewire to charge and sync, then switched to the dock connector which used usb and firewire. Apple then removed firewire support.

The headphone jack has moved around on the iPod lines also.
 
Its funny how you guys pay for a $500+ phone and complain about a $30 adapter.. :rolleyes:

Yes, god forbid people trying to save money. The difference is that the phone is worth $500 to people while the connector isn't worth $30. Quite simple actually.
 
It seems I will be getting a 4S once discontinued and at a lower price.

The iPhone 5 will be bringing more incompatibilities than solutions, and I still have a Black Berry that so far its ok- but I do not need much from an iPhone any way.
 
You know, I never cared either way before now about the connector, since I know they pretty well have to provide an adapter for my existing connector thingees. But this talk of a possible MagSafe connector + H/P jack at the bottom is actually exciting. If Apple actually creates an awesome dock that doesn't suck as a result it'll be way worth it. For me, I always preferred having the H/P jack at the bottom such as it is on the iPod Touch. The wire then doesn't fall off the top, and I always seem to be holding it right if I take it out of my pocket. If these changes happen, that's another incentive for me to upgrade even though my 4S is less than a year old.
 
I reckon they'll remove some of the audio out from the dock connector and start including the headphone socket as part of the dock, possibly with optical audio out from the headphone jack. Well, maybe :eek:
 
Yeah, they should have stuck with SCSI connectors.

It is easy to see why SCSI is a bad idea for the iPhone 5. But what is wrong with the current adapter? I hope Apple comes out with triangle USB ports on the next model, so I can blame all naysayers for not embracing change and being too cheap for adapters.

I wouldn't complain if it was actually a step forward, like moving to micro-USB 3 or ThunderBolt or anything else that is standardized.
 
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