Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Reuters Confirms a Smaller Dock Connector and Relocated Headphone Jack on Next iPhone
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Very true. I definitely NEED longer battery life than the same dock conn.
They always have battery life issues with the Iphone though. Then they seem to solve it with software. Or in the case of the 4.0 launch absolutely CRUSH the 3G out of existence unless you JB and went back to 3.12 or whatever it was I cant recall right now.
Agree completely though. You can never please them all.
As mentioned though I'll wait to see before I get snippy about it. I wouldnt even be a part of this convo if the 4s had LTE as I wouldnt be upgrading.
LTE is def a hinge point for me and probably most everyone at this revision stage. So if a new dock conn and a weird headphone placement is what we have to suffer with to get it? Fine.... just surprised.
Numerous time by who?
I have both an iPod and an iPhone and I, personally, do prefer the headphone at the top. To each his own I guess!Right. But I guess all I was saying (admittedly a bit in a sarcastic way) was that the only reason mentioned in the MR article is "to make room for the earphone moving to the bottom". I know there must be other/better reasons behind this move but so far, I'm not aware of any. Plus, since everything seems to go the AirPlay-way, I doubt any change in the dock connector will really add any top/must-have functionality (to me, at least). But you're right, I shouldn't jump to conclusion until this Fall...
What, wait, it's not micro-USB? Why?? I don't want another charger for my phone, I have a handfull already.
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't the only charger you would need to replace is your car charger. Aren't 95%+ of wall chargers, chargers with USB ports? Can a micro USB port output video and sound? I would hate to see Apple move to a micro USB port and then have to add an hdmi port because then I would need new chargers and hdmi cables.
Peterjames.org said:
Again am I wrong or does Apple include a charger with a USB cable with every iPhone?
I know what you're pointing at. and you are right.
If the new plug is pinout compatible and can just use an adapter, than the whole bitchfest as far as I'm concerned is moot.
if the new plug is different because it adds radical new features or addresses issues with usability and size restrictions, while adding new features, Than again, Good progress and it should be welcome.
But if they're changing the JUST for the sake of changing the plug... obsoleting existing accessories... Thats where the rub lies.
To be honest we're all getting ahead of ourselves. Apple has not confirmed anything. Apple hasn't announced anything. All we know is that several rumoured iphone 5 mockups have the new plug. Thats it.
That's why I think this design is a fake Unless they are putting something really important on the top part of the phone, why on earth would they move the headphone socket to the bottom of the phone? I also agree that the 4/4S is one of the most beautiful industrial design products to come out of Apple in years. It's really hard to improve on that design.
Unless they are putting something really important on the top part of the phone, why on earth would they move the headphone socket to the bottom of the phone? I also agree that the 4/4S is one of the most beautiful industrial design products to come out of Apple in years. It's really hard to improve on that design.That's why I think this design is a fake
Many said the iPhone 4 was ugly when it first leaked too, "ugly bands, very un-Apple-like" now it's become one of the most loved designs in history. There's nothing really important on the top of the phone, as I've explained before, these changes are to increase room inside for a larger battery, necessary for power-hungry LTE.
Shame on BMW for thinking the 30-pin connector would last forever.
They should have put a standard USB port in the car... that's pretty much future-proof...
Not to mention it'd be complete overkill, even the fastest SSDs can't perform anywhere near Thunderbolt levels, let alone iPhone NANDs.
----------
That's why I think this design is a fake
... Because that way you grab the right part of the phone when you pull it out... Are you serious right now?
----------
The dock does not carry HDMI signals.
Well, if you're buying the new iPhone anyway, you might as well pick up a new BMW to go with it.
----------
Orly? What's this then?
http://store.apple.com/uk/product/MD098ZM/A
My problem is that if they are going to change the connector, they should do what virtually every other company with portable devices out there is doing and go to MicroUSB. This is happening with all devices, including smart phones, bluetooth keyboards for tablets, eReaders, non-Apple Tablets, etc.
I know. The person I was replying to said every Android phone used microUSB; he didn't say every phone after 2009. Your post takes mine out of context and is irrelevant. You might as well have mentioned the color of the phones.
True... but virtually every other company is only concerned with charging and maybe data.
How many MicroUSB speaker docks are there?
Apple's dock is for charging, data, audio, video and more. MicroUSB wouldn't work for Apple.
Sure the 30-pin dock connector is proprietary. But considering how many iPhone speakers and accessories there are... I think they made the right choice.
It sucks they are changing it after so many years... but I'm pretty sure they know what they are doing.
For that matter find a source that is stating with 100% authority to know what they are talking about that Apple is changing the connector at all.
No one can because the only source is Apple and they aren't talking at this point.
I suspect they are doing it and it's a bit overdue. The 11 pins they might remove for this are all for connections that aren't really in use anymore so why leave them in. Reduce the connector down to the needed pins and use the space for something else. like bigger speaker and mic areas. Or even dual speakers. Or more room for the battery or putting in another antenna set. I suspect the number of folks that would really be adversely affected by this change in dock connector, if it is true, would be far out weighed by the folks that would welcome a little more battery life and/or getting 3g on T-Mobile and its partner systems. Or even just shifting the antennas around to further reduce the so called 'death grip'.
----------
if the goal is faster data transfers then it will be thunderbolt. with an optional thunderbolt to USB for those PC users. mini/micro USB for charging (whichever is the one the EU wants all phones to have).
----------
Or what about last year when there was all those drawings and confirmations of the tear drop and it didn't happen in the iPhone or the iPod touch
----------
If Apple is changing it they may have already told their major partners who are under an NDA to keep their mouths firmly shut at risk of losing all license to make Apple accessories and a lawsuit for contract violation. So they are staying mum.
How about you bring non-dock connector iPods into it as well, pedant.
I would question anyone who sources images from a place called Guido Watch
Save your effort
1. If they are doing it then it's done. The hardware design is finalized by now
2. They don't care about what a petition or a blog says. Apple does what Apple does. Which is why they were late to the whole USB3, why we don't have NFC in our devices, no blu-ray in the computers, no matte screen (another petition effort)
Because obsolete iPods are neither phones nor competing with Android.
I'd question anyone who refers to themselves as ShiftyPig.
Last edited:
So you jump someone for making an overly broad and non-factual statement, yet you're allowed to make an overly broad and non-factual statement.
I conduct a lot of interviews and make a lot of hiring decisions - the reason unemployment is so high in this country is because a fair number of people aren't worth minimum wage. Exhibit A.
I was editing that post as you replied, yet the previous version was overly broad and non-facotual in no way. iPods that do not connect via 30-pin connectors are no longer compatible with a working version of iTunes. You can check MacTracker yourself; they're obsolete.
I'm amused that after reading a few of my posts, you've concluded that I cannot possibly posses any skills that deserve minimum wage.
It's always hilarious to see what personal, off-topic attacks people resort to when they run out of valid things to say.
Last edited:
It hurts to read this thread. There is no indication that the new dock adapter is any more USB than the old one. Apple complied with the guideline by selling an adapter and it is likely that they will do the same with the new form factor.
https://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/04/apple-offering-micro-usb-adapters-to-european-customers/
Technology progresses. That is why Apple should be able to fit its crap into an iPhone 5 without cutting a few mm off a connector cable. Especially if the phone will be bigger than the last one.
No big deal. It's the Apple culture, it's been like this since the arrival of the man from Next.
The new captain of Apples ship may smooth the waters a bit. He's more well adjusted, not as ego centric, and has yet to demonstrate extreme narcissism. An experienced, highly intelligent professional, Apples in calmer hands now.
From what I've seen so far, things look better than ever.
Use them with a new cable? The only thing that's changing is the end that goes into the phone.
That's a converter that takes the raw audio and video signals and packages it as HDMI. the Dock connector doesn't carry HDMI signals.
You're wrong. The iPad 2/3 and iPhone 4/4S support HDMI over the dock connector.
Previous models (eg 3GS) did not, supporting only composite video and VGA. The dock connector to HDMI cable works only with devices that supports HDMI.