My mom’s iPhone 13 mini runs the latest version (18.3.1) really well. Now, maybe if I had an Xs, Xr or even 11, I would be a little worried about the upcoming iOS 19.
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Revealed: Entire iPhone 17 Lineup's Striking New Camera Designs
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I've been wondering about that. Can Apple still fit the Magsafe hardware into the thin Air?
If we go off the 16e... Battery or massage choose 1
Yeah, I've been fine with the weight of my iPhone 15 Pro Max for the year that I've had it--I didn't even think about it--but since there's been so much rumor coverage, for months, for the upcoming Air model, I guess it's gotten under my skin a little, to the point where I've started to notice how heavy the Pro Max really is. But I notice the weight really only when I pick up the phone, not when I've got it in my palm and I'm using it. Either way, a lighter Pro Max would be nice, but it looks like the 17 version won't be any lighter, in fact it might be a few grams heavier with that bigger bump and whatever Apple puts inside it. But maybe an all-aluminum frame will keep the weight about the same.
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By "massage", I assume you meant Magsafe? If not, then that's a choice I've never encountered before.
The intent may be to give the Pro models an extra feature, allowing the user to charge their AirPods case by setting it on the back of the phone.
Apple wanted to increase screen real estate by extending the edges of the Macbook display as far outward as possible, trying to make it nearly an edge-to-edge display, but this ran into the limitation of sandwiching the display, the camera (both its thickness and height), and the metal of the display housing into the thickness Apple chose for the entire assembly. To achieve this nearly edge-to-edge goal, they figured they had to put the camera into a notch in the display, since otherwise there was no room for it. I think just about everyone would have been happy instead with maintaining the former height/thickness of the upper bezel to place the camera into, while extending the sides of the display outward, but Apple really wanted to increase the height too, and sacrificed achieving that in the camera area in order to achieve it along the rest of the upper edge.
Eventually when flat metalenses are perfected, the camera will probably be thin enough that it'll go under the active outer layer of the display, and the notch will go.
"...Apple plans to use aluminum for the iPhone 17 Pro models due to environmental considerations."
Sure sure. Almost a parody at this point
Sure sure. Almost a parody at this point
"...Apple plans to use aluminum for the iPhone 17 Pro models due to environmental considerations."
Sure sure. Almost a parody at this point
It's like a ladder.
From Aluminimum to Steel = Price Hike, justify it saying that it provides better strength and more premium.
From Steel to titanium = Price hike, justify it saying that it provides better strength and more premium.
From Titanium to Aluminium = Hold pricing, justify that it's good for the environment.
Next; Aluminium to steel. Price hike. And the loop starts again
I did mean magsafe but now you've got me thinking! I'd take a massage at hand, at any time over magsafe
I would rather a pill shape than notch. I think most would. But marketing sense told them the notch was identifiable. Shame really they had to do that instead of a dynamic island with all its nifty software tricks. The truth is in how ill-conceived the notch was. It was form over function and if one has a busy menu bar things are lost behind. Without a third party app that is. A really considered and thoughtful approach would have been to set aside the recognition of the notch and do the hard work required to make a more elegant solution. But that more closely resembles the efforts and ethos of old Apple not the current regime.
For people concerned about the use of an all-aluminum frame, consider that the non-Pro iPhones have had aluminum frames for years, and we don't hear about mass Bendgate events with those. There are also a couple tougher grades of aluminum above the one currently used in the non-Pro iPhones, so maybe Apple will use one of those (or maybe not) in the upcoming Pro models to try to approach the toughness of the titanium that they'll be replacing. Aluminum is also much better at heat dissipation than titanium, so that might be another factor in Apple's decision.
I just hope the top is made of aluminum and only that shaded part is glass on the pros. Hopefully that will help balance these phones because otherwise they will be really top heavy.
If we really do get this design it is because of Vision Pro and spatial video. I bet someone at Apple wanted to do a regular camera bar like the pixel and the iPhone 17 Air. But then someone (in marketing) was like, we can’t lose spatial video. And that’s why the orientation of the cameras has to stay the same in a design where it makes no sense. I will never use Vision Pro or take spatial video (and I bet the majority of people are like me) so this is rather frustrating.
Meh. I really wanted to upgrade my 13 Pro max this year but we’ll see.
If we really do get this design it is because of Vision Pro and spatial video. I bet someone at Apple wanted to do a regular camera bar like the pixel and the iPhone 17 Air. But then someone (in marketing) was like, we can’t lose spatial video. And that’s why the orientation of the cameras has to stay the same in a design where it makes no sense. I will never use Vision Pro or take spatial video (and I bet the majority of people are like me) so this is rather frustrating.
Meh. I really wanted to upgrade my 13 Pro max this year but we’ll see.
I would have preferred a Dynamic Island on Macbooks too, but Apple didn't introduce it on iPhones until the 14 Pro in Sept 2022, and apparently they wanted to do the nearly edge-to-edge display for Macbooks starting a year earlier with the release in 2021 of the 14 and 16 Inch Pros. Maybe they should have waited until 2022 with the Macbooks and introduced the island for both them and the iPhone, which begs the question: why hasn't Apple put the island into Macbooks released after it appeared in the iPhone 14 Pro?
I got rid of the notch on my M1 Macbook Pro 16 Inch by setting the display resolution to one of the non-HiDPI settings. Now I have a full menu bar again, but I've lost about a quarter-inch of the display's vertical dimension.
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"...Apple plans to use aluminum for the iPhone 17 Pro models due to environmental considerations."
Sure sure. Almost a parody at this point
Milling out the camera bump from titanium might double the size of the titanium block needed. Probably would increase the cost way too much.
I do prefer titanium > aluminum > steel.
I think it's been determined that the upper portion of the rear of the iPhone 17 will be aluminum (except for the glass that covers it), while the portion below it will largely be glass for Magsafe charging, though I wonder if there will be aluminum surrounding the hole that's needed for Magsafe. Seems that would make the housing stronger.
Apple does want to encourage some iPhone users to shoot spatial photos and video to help promote the Vision Pro and future headsets and glasses, but previous rumors were that Apple was going to line up the three cameras for the Pro models along the upper rear edge so the two cameras at the ends of this lineup were spaced further apart for a more accurate approximation of human IPD (Inter-Pupillary Distance), compared to the current triangular camera arrangement, and people would shoot in spatial mode while holding the iPhone in portrait mode. Landscape mode spatial imagery could have been done while holding the iPhone in Portrait orientation, by just displaying a smaller viewfinder on the screen. I think more people would have been less unhappy with that arrangement than retaining the current camera triangle and extending the bump to its right, as these current rumors depict, and making no improvement for better IPD for spatial imagery.
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Almost, but not the Air. But the more time goes on, the more the Air seems like a confusing product to add. I don't get it. Why not make it Aluminum (which is lighter than comparable quantity of titanium)? It's the more premium material and the Air is supposed to be thin and light. I also don't understand the single lens unless the Air will be the least expensive model, which doesn't appear to be according to rumors.
The last phone I was excited to purchase was the 5S. It was perfect. I did not mind the rounded edges of the first iphones, but the debut of the 4’s flat edges had me salivating - I bought the 4S, then the 5S. But when Apple switched to rounded edges again with the 6, I was disappointed - I liked the flat eges so much that my relative attitude to the round edges was hatred, and the camera bumps had me shaking my head. I bought the 6S out of necessity, but I was not excited about it. I hated the bump and the rounded edges, but I remember really liking 3D touch, and still feel that haptic touch is significantly inferior. My next phone was the SE 2020, which, again, I purchased due to necessity, not because of desire. The return of the flat edges coupled with the smaller footprint of the 12 Mini had me excited, but I had just purchased the SE2020, and did not need a new phone. When the 13 Mini came, hope was renewed that the size might stick around long enough, but I still did not need a new phone. Then they killed the mini. So, I replaced the battery in my SE2020, which is now getting long in the tooth. The current next logical step would seem to be the 16e, but it’s a bit of a downer to me. It has a significantly higher price. It downgrades from the Lightning jack to the inferior USB-C, but lacks the consolation of magsafe, so on charging I would be worse off going from the SE2020 to the 16e - it’s harder to clean lint out of USB-C. On footprint, it is only slightly larger, which makes it a contender, although it’s not in the Mini range, and nowhere near the size of the 5. Sure, it has good specs, and it’ll last for a long time hence. I may still get one. But I won’t be excited about it. Or maybe I’ll wait for the 17e.
Now all these new designs are leaked, and many are hating on the camera bumps getting bigger. I get it; I hate them too, ever since the 6. I have a suggestion, though, for Apple: Make the camera bump even wider! So wide that it covers the back entirely! And then you can get an EVEN BIGGER battery in there! Oh, that makes it too heavy? Okay - shrink the footprint down to the size of the 5S.
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It’s hard to rekindle the lust of the early days when it seemed magical, impossible. It’s hard to get excited over an appliance.
Now all these new designs are leaked, and many are hating on the camera bumps getting bigger. I get it; I hate them too, ever since the 6. I have a suggestion, though, for Apple: Make the camera bump even wider! So wide that it covers the back entirely! And then you can get an EVEN BIGGER battery in there! Oh, that makes it too heavy? Okay - shrink the footprint down to the size of the 5S.
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It’s hard to rekindle the lust of the early days when it seemed magical, impossible. It’s hard to get excited over an appliance.
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Not even sure about the design at all. If that is what it will look like, I wouldn't bother with it. My 16 Pro Max is doing what I expect of any iPhone Pro series. I got more important stuffs to put my money into than trying to keep up with the latest and the greatest. I know it will definitely a game changer for any of them who still got an iPhone before 12 or 13 line up. Just my thoughts.