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Review: 2021 Ford Mustang Mach-E Brings Wireless CarPlay to a Huge Infotainment Display
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You can fight against it all you want but the age of the muscle car is dying. Chevy is dropping the Camaro and Mustang sells have been steady dropping for well over a decade so they all see the end is coming. The Mustang is not a practical car. That hurts it as people who can afford those they need something they can take their family in. It needs to have some practicality and not be a toy. If anything it is saving the mustang name.
Now I get the not a Mustang argument but there is no deny that the Mach E will drop most GT off the line at a stop light driven by your average driver. Having 100% of your power from a dead stop with out having to rev it way up to go helps. It is always in launch control mode.
Also Ford putting the Mustang name on it like it or not got the attention of everyone. It also was Ford's way of saying they mean business as they are not going to risk a name like Mustang or F150 on just anything. Those carry some major weight behind them. It also lit a fire under the engineering department because it went from Mustang inspired to OH ***** we can not F this up. End of the day they did a damn good job of it. Hell if it was not called Mustang I honestly would of passed it over when they announced it. The name Mustang to me was well Ford is not joking around and it caused me to read more about it. I liked what I saw. Without that attention getter part I most likely would of just passed it over.
That all being said I wish Ford reused the name Thunderbird for it this line. Sadly that did not happen. Mustang seems to be follow the Bronco as going to a minor sub brand.
Thanks! I’ve seen rumors of a Shelby Mach-E which would be interesting ?
My point was in the past they did indeed squander the Mustang name, so evoking it now doesn't prove anything.
If they have to use the name now to motivate their employees to take this stuff seriously and give it their best to this particular car then I really don't know how to respond to that. I guess I'm glad it worked and the result seems like something people enjoy so far.
Mustang doesn't have to mean a gas guzzling muscle car. I know the future lies away from petrol and the worship of the open road. Everything is going to change dramatically from what I know in terms of automotive design and even the very infrastructure and roads themselves if we are to save our environment as well as cut down on accidents and a host of other ills we deal with now.
But I think the name could have been saved for something that doesn't look quite so much like a stubby Nissan SUV/coupe blend I saw on my way to pick the kids up from school.
I do think this particular car IS attractive in its own way. I just don't see the Mustang lineage in it.
Mustang is just a name now, I guess. That seems to be what many are saying. I'll grumble about this at the old folks home. I still drive the car I bought in 1993. I don't have many years left before the cars are driving ME around. And I'm okay with that.
We all hate how car makers are simply gluing tablets to their cars and calling it "innovative."
Well, the Mustang II was basically a Pinto with a Mustang shaped body from 1974-78, I think, but the 5.0 Litre was available after that and should qualify as high performance, certainly for straight lines anyway. My 1988 LX with the 5.0L V8 was a very fun car to drive in summer, not so much in winter.
Exactly. Wireless charging doesn't generally keep up and many of the wireless charger setups are super constricting.
Friend works for GM. One of his company vehicles you had to slide the phone into a slot to charge it wirelessly. It was sandwiched in there. Some have you just set it down, but with such differences in side and the requirement for wireless to lineup right with the spot on the phone, many have setups that require specific placement.
That largely defeats the purpose. I don't want to do that. I don't currently take my phone out of my pocket. I want to get in the car and have everything work.
There's little difference between plugging a phone in and putting it on a MagSafe charger.
If my car can already steam my music wirelessly without eating battery, why bother? It also has built-in navigation, and other features. CarPlay Wireless isn't that useful if you can use those other things, without the battery drain or requirement for a charger.
FWIW, I've had the AWD Mach-E since March and about 13,000 miles in it so far. Build quality is very good. It's my first EV and I wouldn't go back to ICE. Driver experience is way superior.
It's also the only car I've had with CarPlay. That's awesome - but can't compare Mach-E's implementation vs. other car manufacturers. For example, based on my calendar and upcoming events, it suggests where I might be going so I can quickly map to that location. Music, texts, phone calls, etc. all on the car's screen while phone is in my pocket. But again, I guess that's normal for CarPlay and not unique to the Mach-E?
I am not big fan of having the climate control on the touchscreen. Not intuitive. Too much time trying to figure out how to change temp and fan speed, etc. Having said that, I almost never have to. System seems to keep me comfortable without me adjusting much. But when I do need to adjust, it's frustrating.
It's also the only car I've had with CarPlay. That's awesome - but can't compare Mach-E's implementation vs. other car manufacturers. For example, based on my calendar and upcoming events, it suggests where I might be going so I can quickly map to that location. Music, texts, phone calls, etc. all on the car's screen while phone is in my pocket. But again, I guess that's normal for CarPlay and not unique to the Mach-E?
I am not big fan of having the climate control on the touchscreen. Not intuitive. Too much time trying to figure out how to change temp and fan speed, etc. Having said that, I almost never have to. System seems to keep me comfortable without me adjusting much. But when I do need to adjust, it's frustrating.
My car received full self driving 3 weeks ago.
It’s not perfect. Sometimes it’s a bit too cautious. Sometimes it jerks the wheel a bit too much in a turn. But functionally, it gets me from A to B without input from me besides me giving it a destination. And the issues I mentioned above are getting smoothed out in updates coming every two weeks from Tesla.
The only reason I look at the road is because the car currently demands that I do - I’ve personally gone a few hundred miles and collectively the fleet has driven a few million miles. It seems safe to say the current iteration of Full Self Driving crashes less than 1/20th as often as a human driver.
Within a year or two we’ll see Tesla stop referring to FSD as a beta and they’ll stop asking that humans pay attention to what it’s doing.
It never had to, necessarily. Back in the 1960s and 70s, the true muscle car era lasted about five years tops before emissions regulations and a changing market (fueled by gasoline shortages and high inflation) brought the party to an end. Mustangs and Camaros were known more broadly as pony cars. Essentially, they were the Honda Civic coupes of their day. They were smaller, more sporty and better handling than most cars on the road. And, like the Civic coupe, were available in various forms - from commuters, the so-called secretary's car, sport coupes for enthusiasts and even full-on race cars. Power plants started with mild inline six-cylinder engines, larger sixes, small V8s... and later big muscle car V8s.
Mustang is a brand within Ford now, just like Bronco. Note that there is the traditional Mustang with mild-to-hairy power trains and trim levels. And there is the Mach-E. Likewise, there is the more-traditional, heavy-duty Bronco in various trim levels - up to and including full off-road. And there is the Escape-based Bronco Sport for commuters and soccer moms.
You want too much, matey.
If you just want to get in your car and use wireless CarPlay, just leave the phone in your pocket.
If you want to get in your car and use wireless CarPlay for a long time on a long journey, take the phone out of your pocket at some point and put it on the MagSafe charger.
Of course, this two-second inconvenience might just be a bit too much for your delicate sensibilities.
So many haters on this thread! Yes it’s an unfamiliar shape for a car with that name, but they’ve never had batteries and motors before either, it’s a new form for a new generation. There are highs and lows to every new car someone introduces, and this is not different, maybe slightly more so being Fords first ground up BEV. There’s a lot of likes for the car, they have sold 10’s of thousands. Go out and experience it for yourself.
Happy to field some questions, I actually have one.
Happy to field some questions, I actually have one.
Are they related to you as I appear to have touched a nerve.
Does it really matter? It's a vulgar design, much like many of the Bangle era cars from BMW. (Or will you jump on me there too?)
Either way, those two old biddies don't know how to hold a phone and I'm pretty confident they shoot video in portrait.... ?
I think the debate over whether the Mach-E deserves the brand name "Mustang" misses the point.
The point is that Ford is 100% bought into EV. That's why both the Mustang and the F150 brands are among the first to go EV.
Ford isn't just building niche EV cars for compliance purposes, or to test the waters, and creating new brands like the "Volt." Ford commitment to use their most iconic brands signals to investors, employees, and the overall market that Ford is here NOW (or imminently) in the EV space, and a real competitor to Tesla.
The point is that Ford is 100% bought into EV. That's why both the Mustang and the F150 brands are among the first to go EV.
Ford isn't just building niche EV cars for compliance purposes, or to test the waters, and creating new brands like the "Volt." Ford commitment to use their most iconic brands signals to investors, employees, and the overall market that Ford is here NOW (or imminently) in the EV space, and a real competitor to Tesla.
thats odd, im not a boomer and my 20 gt with a procharger makes 700 whp. it also passes emissions without issue and has a built in millennial anti-theft transmission.
Fun discussion. It's common for folks to miss just how quickly automotive tastes have changed over the past decade. I like to point out this article:
www.thedrive.com
Because so many people don't even realize that two-door vehicles have completely disappeared from the low end of the market. Remember, these were the bread-and-butter statement vehicles (Hi! I don't have kids!) for so many young drivers in 1990s and early 2000s. A few years later, and today's young drivers don't just not want a laughably short-on-utility coupe, you have to work to convince them to want a vehicle at all.
So, automakers are simply responding to an evolving marketplace. And since a household brand name is one of the most valuable pieces of intellectual property, they aren't eager to bury those in the history books, even if it agitates every last person who wasn't the target customer to begin with. The Mustang Mach-E is just one early example of this in action, but dozens more are on the way as most relevant automotive makes / models will be powered by electrons within the next fifteen to twenty years.
Depending on the individual, that either represents a lot of emotional energy spent on being angry over and over again as products we all know and love undergo necessary transformations to remain viable, or it could simply manifest itself as acceptance and maybe even appreciation for the hard-working professionals behind these vehicles who are just trying to do right by investors and keep up with the quickly changing times.
I've owned my share of Mustangs in the past, and a number of high performance German vehicles in more recents years, but today I own a Mustang Mach-E (GT PE, because fast is always more fun!
). I keep an open mind though, so just as I needed to be convinced that this was the right direction or me, I am no-less still keeping an eye on the ICE vehicle market just in case something miraculously flips the script back the other way. I don't think that'll happen (and my stock portfolio sure hopes it doesn't!), but you never know.
The Front-Wheel-Drive Coupe Is Now Extinct
The Civic Coupe is dead. This is the first time the U.S. has gone without a true FWD coupe since the ’60s.
www.thedrive.com
Because so many people don't even realize that two-door vehicles have completely disappeared from the low end of the market. Remember, these were the bread-and-butter statement vehicles (Hi! I don't have kids!) for so many young drivers in 1990s and early 2000s. A few years later, and today's young drivers don't just not want a laughably short-on-utility coupe, you have to work to convince them to want a vehicle at all.
So, automakers are simply responding to an evolving marketplace. And since a household brand name is one of the most valuable pieces of intellectual property, they aren't eager to bury those in the history books, even if it agitates every last person who wasn't the target customer to begin with. The Mustang Mach-E is just one early example of this in action, but dozens more are on the way as most relevant automotive makes / models will be powered by electrons within the next fifteen to twenty years.
Depending on the individual, that either represents a lot of emotional energy spent on being angry over and over again as products we all know and love undergo necessary transformations to remain viable, or it could simply manifest itself as acceptance and maybe even appreciation for the hard-working professionals behind these vehicles who are just trying to do right by investors and keep up with the quickly changing times.
I've owned my share of Mustangs in the past, and a number of high performance German vehicles in more recents years, but today I own a Mustang Mach-E (GT PE, because fast is always more fun!
). I keep an open mind though, so just as I needed to be convinced that this was the right direction or me, I am no-less still keeping an eye on the ICE vehicle market just in case something miraculously flips the script back the other way. I don't think that'll happen (and my stock portfolio sure hopes it doesn't!), but you never know.
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Soon, the windshield will be replaced by a giant curved LED screen that displays what is in front of you
Should have just named it the Mexican Mach E, built in Mexico. The Tesla Model Y, on the other hand, is #3 for most American contented vehicle, 3rd to the Tesla Model 3 (#1) and the Ford Mustang Coupe (#2). Its too bad Ford didn't think we deserved the plant to build the Mach E, it probably would have been #4 on that list, give or take.
Are you saying old folks take video in portrait mode? From what I’ve seen, that seems far more common with younger people that have grown up with smartphones, since they are intending to just watch it on their phone anyway. I thought the tv that flipped to portrait mode was a bit wacky, but made sense for all the portrait videos that seem to be showing up these days.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they kept calling it beta just for legal liability avoidance, but Tesla seems aggressive enough that you could be right on that, assuming the government allows it.
Well, if they don’t know the Shelby connection they aren’t really huge Mustang fans. The truth Hertz.The new Mach-E has caused huge controversy in the Mustang community. I myself think it is awesome and would love to own one! It’s bad enough when I post a pic of my Shelby and get told “that’s not a Mustang!” My reply is “it’s a Mustang that has been injected with snake DNA” ?
