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It doesn't make a ton of sense. I'm really not sure why you'd get this over the iPhone 15. I don't think Apple Intelligence is a better value than having the second camera that the 15 offers.
It’ll support software for a year and a half longer
It supports Apple Intelligence (even though it’s been a flop).
Supposedly, battery life is longer due to the new C1 chip.
Camera design on the back looks much better than any other iPhone.
Overall cost is less than a 15 if you’re paying out of pocket MSRP.
 
becuase people seem real upset that its not in the cheapest iphone, and i wanted to know what is was that made it so good that it's worth getting upset about becuase for me, it's nothing. What about you ?
I've never used Magsafe but I have the ability to put myself in the shoes of others, so I don't need to personally care about to see why its convenience might be nice for those who use it. And with how much higher the price is compared to the SE line, Apple is just penny pinching to not include it. Then again, poor Apple only made about $100 billion in profit last year so maybe I should be kinder to the struggling company...
 
Since Tim Crook raised the price substantially from that of the iPhone SE 3, the least he could've done was to include exact same main camera with the exact same and same-sized sensor of the iPhone 16 Pro's camera. But instead, Tim Crook, in his typical fashion, raised prices while giving customers less value for their money in order to maximize profits.

You want a phone that is cheaper than the iPhone 16 to have the same camera as the 16 pro?
 
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Great and honest review. Looks like I have to bite the dust and replace my 13 mini featuring a wonky lightning port that no longer connects to CarPlay with a 16e. Since I don't have gorilla paws I have always stuck to minis, but that era seems to be over.
 
The magnets would not add any perceivable amount of weight and no thickness to the phone, the only reason they were left off is to differentiate the iPhone 16e from the rest of the lineup. So there is no good reason they were deleted, other than that reason. Which is good enough of course, it's Apple's prerogative. Of course our prerogative as the consumer is to not buy it if it doesn't meet our needs.
I do wonder if it’s partially aimed at people with pacemakers who cannot have the MagSafe era iPhones or even the watch (I think).

Obviously the point you make still stands - if Apple can save a few cents from the manufacturing of the 16e and push people up to buy the 15 or regular 16, they will.
 
You want a phone that is cheaper than the iPhone 16 to have the same camera as the 16 pro?
Yes. The iPhone SE 1 had the same camera as in the then-current flagship iPhone 6s.

I'm not asking for the iPhone 16e to have all three cameras of the the iPhone 16 Pro. I'm just asking for the iPhone 16e to have the same one main camera of the iPhone 16 Pro. It's not an unprecedented situation for an Apple budget model iPhone have the same one main camera as the current flagship iPhone because that's what happened with the iPhone SE 1.

I'm not surprised Tim Cook cut corners with the iPhone 16e and gave customers a differerent and lower-quaility camera with a smaller sensor than the iPhone 16 Pro's main camera. Cook is a miser because he wants to make even more money. That's the playbook of Tightwad Tim.
 
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Budget offerings are ...well... budget offerings. Sometimes they even don't cost as budget offerings...but this is a lowest offer in the line so it does have its limitations. Probably best as a second iPhone or a corporate phone or a iphone for a kid. I have Pro Max 15 and have zero interest in upgrading to 16 or even 17 but my backup iPhone Mini 13 is certainly harder to use because it still got Lightning whereas all our household is now USB-C. So might change that to 16e
 
Great and honest review. Looks like I have to bite the dust and replace my 13 mini featuring a wonky lightning port that no longer connects to CarPlay with a 16e. Since I don't have gorilla paws I have always stuck to minis, but that era seems to be over.
If CarPlay is your main concern have you considered using a wireless adapter for your wired CarPlay?
 
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I love hearing the 5 year old propaganda about Android when I visit the forums here. In reality, a phone like the Samsung A16 5G - which costs $200 unlocked - will receive 6 years of software updates. Next?

I own ipads and Macbooks…..but I’ve never owned an iphone. I’ve always found Samsungs the way to go price wise….but also software wise, Android is just so much more open. Hardwarewise….they are much better, offering superior screens dollar for dollar. Most of the features in iOS now are just copied from Android. I’ve also never found a good reason to pay more than $350 for a phone.
 
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Looks like a nice phone at a nice price.
They software-locked acceptable notifications to the Moronic Island that this piece of crap doesn't have, that's enough of an insult to people who want to save $100 to me.
Absolutely nobody should get this instead of an older phone or waiting for better ones to become cheaper.
 
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If this had MagSafe and Qi2 it would be an instant buy for my mom and dad. They don’t need the frills, but they will miss the MagSafe. I guess they are getting the 16.
Agree. It was a strong candidate to replace my younger son’s iPhone 13, but the lack of MagSafe is a dealbreaker for me, since he has a couple of useful accessories using MagSafe. I will probably buy him an iPhone 16 when the 17 will be announced.
 
Were you planning to buy an iPhone 16e? If so, how much more would you be willing to pay for MagSafe charging? If you say it should be included for the same price, your response will be discarded as being unrealistic.
Seriously… MagSafe is just a magnet… not that expensive. Apple could have added at the same price easily.
 
It’s funny to me how much MagSafe is being spoken about I don’t know anyone who uses it.
I wonder if it’s had a bigger uptake in the US where the iPhone is dominant than elsewhere.
 
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It doesn't make a ton of sense. I'm really not sure why you'd get this over the iPhone 15. I don't think Apple Intelligence is a better value than having the second camera that the 15 offers.

I guess the concern people might have is not about apple intelligence as it is today but what it grows in to and future proofing the purchase.
 
Not being able to use a magsafe accessory is a downgrade? Spoiled.
 
Seriously… MagSafe is just a magnet… not that expensive. Apple could have added at the same price easily.
MagSafe includes a higher power charging system, 15W versus 7.5W, not just magnets. The focus on cost of magnets is misplaced - wait for the iFixit teardown and then I expect we will see the reasons.
 
I own ipads and Macbooks…..but I’ve never owned an iphone. I’ve always found Samsungs the way to go price wise….but also software wise, Android is just so much more open. Hardwarewise….they are much better, offering superior screens dollar for dollar. Most of the features in iOS now are just copied from Android. I’ve also never found a good reason to pay more than $350 for a phone.

I have an iPhone SE that I am happy with but honestly if something went wrong with it today, I'd replace it with a Samsung A16 5G and not think twice. I don't need much from my smartphone. If not for things like mobile wallet and 2FA codes, I could get by with a flip phone tbh.
 
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I guess the concern people might have is not about apple intelligence as it is today but what it grows in to and future proofing the purchase.

Apple Intelligence as promised at WWDC won't exist for years, and it's possible that when it's fully fleshed out it'll require more advanced hardware than this phone has. So be careful using words like future proof. Nothing with Apple is future proof.
 
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Given the lack of an affordable iPhone any more, a better review might be of a sub-£500 iPhone from the Apple refurb store and whether it’s a viable option in 2025 for the next year or two.

My last iPhone (moving from my SE2020) was a refurb 12 mini for £399 - a nice little phone, with the exception of battery life. My intention was that it’d be a stop-gap until the next SE but now the only option is £600, I’ll be looking at refurbs again next year instead.
 
You can mount a MagSafe charger anywhere and just stick your iPhone to it like a fridge magnet. And you can use magnetic power banks on the go. There are also secondary uses like magnetic mounts in cars, or PopGrips.

Right. And if you need that Apple have the iPhone 16 to sell you.

I'm curious how many people actually do use MagSafe, I know I never have
 
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