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Review Embargo

moosinuk

moosinuk

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Does anybody know when the review embargo will be lifted, given the first AS Mac's will be with users within a couple of days?

I'm curious, as I guess most people are, to see what the real World impact the M1 has when compared to the current Intel machines.
 
moosinuk said:
Does anybody know when the review embargo will be lifted, given the first AS Mac's will be with users within a couple of days?

I'm curious, as I guess most people are, to see what the real World impact the M1 has when compared to the current Intel machines.
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Have seen multiple people with delivery dates of tomorrow so if that holds up I would think we would start seeing some initial impressions later tomorrow and then more throughout the week
 
I would also suspect tomorrow as a likely date. It would have to be before the machines are available to the public, and there’s only business day between now and then.
 
I don't think any review units were sent out and therefore I think no embargos are set. I've seen some reviewers who usually get reviewer units that actually ordered the laptops.
I could be wrong tho.
 
bobmans said:
I don't think any review units were sent out and therefore I think no embargos are set. I've seen some reviewers who usually get reviewer units that actually ordered the laptops.
I could be wrong tho.
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I'd be shocked if those leaked M1 benchmarks weren't from reviewers. The reviewers could just want one for themselves.
 
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thenewperson said:
I'd be shocked if those leaked M1 benchmarks weren't from reviewers. The reviewers could just want one for themselves.
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Yes, review units are merely short-term loaners, and strictly speaking, reviewers should only be using them for review purposes, not to get their regular work done (although in practice, the line is unavoidably blurry).

YouTubers like to boast about the free gifts from their “friends” at various companies, but Apple doesn’t play that game, and neither do ethical journalists.
 
LonestarOne said:
Yes, review units are merely short-term loaners, and strictly speaking, reviewers should only be using them for review purposes, not to get their regular work done (although in practice, the line is unavoidably blurry).

YouTubers like to boast about the free gifts from their “friends” at various companies, but Apple doesn’t play that game, and neither do ethical journalists.
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Don't pay attention to anyone that doesn't buy their own product like which? In the UK and Stuffing Warentest in Germany.

Anyone giving a free review is simply lower quality (essentially all of YouTube.)

I'd hesitate to use the term "reviewer" with anyone on YouTube and they are almost never critical (by design of the reviewee.)
 
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acidfast7_redux said:
I'd hesitate to use the term "reviewer" with anyone on YouTube and they are almost never critical (by design of the reviewee.)
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There's plenty who are critical when they can create a big hyperbolic title and draw tons of views with fearmongering.

I'm far more interested in what established textual sites such as Anandtech / TomsHardware have to say.
 
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deeddawg said:
There's plenty who are critical when they can create a big hyperbolic title and draw tons of views with fearmongering.

I'm far more interested in what established textual sites such as Anandtech / TomsHardware have to say.
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That's not critical per se, that's fear mongering.
 
LeeW said:
I'm far more interested in my own views when it arrives ;)
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Same. I'm a grown up and extremely tech savvy.

I like that iPhone but the pricepoint is ridiculous and tech level is way too low. That's why I buy phones when I'm in China. I wanted a periscope lens to play with and have one now.

I think YT is essentially a waste of time which the exception of my daughter who gets kids songs from it.
 
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acidfast7_redux said:
Same. I'm a grown up and extremely tech savvy.

I like that iPhone but the pricepoint is ridiculous and tech level is way too low. That's why I buy phones when I'm in China. I wanted a periscope lens to play with and have one now.

I think YT is essentially a waste of time which the exception of my daughter who gets kids songs from it.
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Also, some good national programming can be found on there.
 
LeeW said:
I'm far more interested in my own views when it arrives ;)
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Sure but unless you're That Guy who orders several systems expecting to return all but one, the industry reviews are helpful for seeing a more quantified differential between models and configurations.

Plus some of us anticipate the reviews will publish well ahead of delivery of our order.
 
Ok, given some of the above comments, which site (not YouTuber) do you feel gives a more balanced review?
 
moosinuk said:
Ok, given some of the above comments, which site (not YouTuber) do you feel gives a more balanced review?
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I mentioned the ones I like above as the tend to get into the details.

Typically MacRumors will give a meta-review of the various reviews published - watch for that post and you'll see links to a variety of sources.

You'll also see stuff cited here, as well as people's own experiences / impressions. Which sometimes need to be taken with big grains of salt. ;)
 
moosinuk said:
Ok, given some of the above comments, which site (not YouTuber) do you feel gives a more balanced review?
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I like hard empirical data and will build a personal database of my own testing.

I bought as soon as the store reopened on a base-spec MBA and will run it until I see something compelling or it breaks.

I had a Blackbook, a unibody alu MacBook and the first retina MBP. That retina just broke it's second SSD and now I upgrade.

A complete redesign in a year or two would compel me to upgrade and give the MBA to someone.
 
acidfast7_redux said:
I think YT is essentially a waste of time which the exception of my daughter who gets kids songs from it.
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There’s lots of great content on YouTube; unfortunately they have a near monopoly on internet video content. Not sure what you’re into but I watch a lot of philosophy and religion related content there. There’s news content, music, etc etc. Not all the YouTubers make the best content but it’s more a matter of finding the good stuff than anything.
 
impermanence said:
There’s lots of great content on YouTube; unfortunately they have a near monopoly on internet video content. Not sure what you’re into but I watch a lot of philosophy and religion related content there. There’s news content, music, etc etc. Not all the YouTubers make the best content but it’s more a matter of finding the good stuff than anything.
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I have an exceeding high standard and the signal:noise is poor.

I have watched a lot of solid things but one must have a pre-selection website first and there's no quality control.
 
Just a bit of a joke, but... I won't be surprised if one of the most prominent tech Youtubers will upload a video tomorrow and one of his first opening lines: "okay, so I have been using a Mac with M1 processor for the past week".

But seriously, if you know you want this and you haven't placed an order by now, I'd expect stock to be pretty constrained for the holiday. Some of the BTO models are slipping closer to Christmas.

And all that aside, I'd expect nothing but praise for any review that will come. It's pretty clear to me up to this point that Apple has planned this out very carefully, and they already have everything in place so that people can't really pick any fault at all aside from "where's a redesign".
 
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