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Mark One's Pryme Vessyl is an iPhone-connected cup that's designed to track your daily liquid intake, making sure you're at your optimal hydration level. According to Mark One, hitting an ideal hydration level can increase your energy level and improve your mental balance.

Paired with an accompanying app, Pryme Vessyl calculates a user's hydration needs based on height, weight, activity level, and other factors, making sure that intake level is met by measuring each sip of water or liquid through accelerometers in the cup itself. Hydration needs change from day to day, so the goal of the Pryme Vessyl is to make sure users are getting enough hydration as activity level shifts.

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The idea is to drink all of your liquids -- coffee, tea, water, juice -- out of the Pryme Vessyl to get an overall picture of liquid intake and track any deficits.


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Article Link: Review: Pryme Vessyl is an iPhone-Connected Smart Cup That Isn't Smart Enough
 

TheKrs1

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When they first marketed this, the cup could detect what liquid type was added. The review marks no mention of this. Was this removed or just not tested?
 
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When they first marketed this, the cup could detect what liquid type was added. The review marks no mention of this. Was this removed or just not tested?

That is a different cup, called the Vessyl. That cup isn't out yet -- this is a different version that just measures water intake. From what I understand, there are some delays with the Vessyl's production ramp up.

Customers who pre-ordered the original Vessyl have been given a free Pryme Vessyl.

Here's the original Vessyl article for those interested: https://www.macrumors.com/2014/06/12/vessyl-smart-cup/
 
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Even if the cost is not an issue, Pryme Vessel just seems to be badly designed.

The website shows video of how awesome its design is, such as magnetic lid. Well, it's not even leak proof (they are careful to say "leak resistance") and interior does not detach for dishwasher.
 
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Even if the cost is not an issue, Pryme Vessel just seems to be badly designed.

The website shows video of how awesome its design is, such as magnetic lid. Well, it's not even leak proof (they are careful to say "leak resistance") and interior does not detach for dishwasher.

The leaking issue is a real deal breaker. It's not going to spill much if you knock it over while the lid is on, but if you stick it in a backpack or a bag and it tips upside down, you're going to have a mess.
 
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That is a different cup, called the Vessyl. That cup isn't out yet -- this is a different version that just measures water intake. From what I understand, there are some delays with the Vessyl's production ramp up.

Customers who pre-ordered the original Vessyl have been given a free Pryme Vessyl.

Here's the original Vessyl article for those interested: https://www.macrumors.com/2014/06/12/vessyl-smart-cup/

"Some delays" = They realized they can't actually make what they said they could make.

"free Pryme Vessyl" = People who pre-paid the current selling price of the Pryme Vessyl for the supposedly-more-featured Vessyl got a cup that costs the same as they one they "paid" for by agreeing they wouldn't cancel their order, and that they accept if the Vessyl never actually ships.

AKA: Bait and switch. People pre-ordered the fancier cup, and were given this cup with a "promise" to get the one they originally preordered when it becomes available. Which I doubt will ever happen.

Their latest update on the original Vessyl (from a week ago) is "we're really doing it, honest! Just another year and a half! We swear it's going to be for real this time!" Back in February they "asked for a bit more time."

Pryme Vessyl seems like an okay product, although as this review mentions, it is a bit underwhelming for the price. But the company itself comes across very badly. (I'm glad I didn't preorder as I nearly did - I was turned off by their constant "extensions" of the preorder time. They kept saying "$99 preorder ends Friday!" and Saturday would roll around, and magically the preorder period would be extended. It was extended for almost a year beyond the original preorder deadline - and the product is now at least four years behind schedule.
 
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JohnApples

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Like its stated in the review, I'm wondering why they needed to create a "smart cup" instead of just a liquid-tracking app. It seems much quicker and less of a hassle to just manually enter your liquid intake rather than having to:
  • Pour every single drink into the cup
  • Wash the cup daily or multiple times a day if you don't want to "contaminate" your new drink with the previous one
  • Charge it daily
  • Lug it's non-leak-proof self around everywhere you go
When you simply it down to those four negatives, I wouldn't even want to use it had someone given it to me for free. Let alone a hundred bucks. Unless you wildly miscalculate your liquid intake consistently, I can't imagine this could be targeted at anyone.
 
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Mark One (Vessyl)

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That is a different cup, called the Vessyl. That cup isn't out yet -- this is a different version that just measures water intake. From what I understand, there are some delays with the Vessyl's production ramp up.

Customers who pre-ordered the original Vessyl have been given a free Pryme Vessyl.

Here's the original Vessyl article for those interested: https://www.macrumors.com/2014/06/12/vessyl-smart-cup/

Thanks for the thorough review Juli. The BT issues you mention were prevalent in an old build of the Firmware. Did you upgrade to the latest firmware before you started using Pryme?

We are working to fix the other issues you mentioned, so we appreciate the candid feedback.

Thanks again!
 
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SteveJobzniak

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Can't they invest all that research and development money into something actually useful?
 
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I'm sure there are hardcore liquid enthusiasts out there who would appreciate this product.
 
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mattopotamus

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I'm all about smart/connected technology, but this is stupid. That's the most appropriate word to describe this "smart" product.
 
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SteveJobzniak

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I'm sure there are hardcore liquid enthusiasts out there who would appreciate this product.

Seeing a fellow human being write the phrase "hardcore liquid enthusiasts" with a straight face to excuse this useless product...

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I hope the company is reading this: This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen humanity create, and everyone who ordered one is a fool.

We already know when we are thirsty. Nobody needs to carry around special "smart" water cups, replace its batteries, and use fiddly tracking-apps just to get water into their belly.

Just read how much you need to drink in one day, and drink that much.

Drinking is one of the easiest things you can ever do in life. You've survived this long just fine. If you need more, just drink a few more glasses.

Drinking more is free and compatible with any glass in the world.

Next app from this company: How to breathe. "Remember to breathe. Type in how many breaths you have had today."

The movie Idiocracy apparently wasn't a comedy. It was a prophecy...

At least they spelled vessel in a cool way (Vessyl).

Given the stupidity of the product, I wouldn't be surprised if the spelling mistake is an accident. ;-)
 
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SteveJobzniak

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Epic tongue-in-cheek-miss-fail.

Haha, it's impossible to tell the difference these days in this weird world. There are lots of zombie-people who think like your original post and I've stopped being surprised. :-(
 
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e93to

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Seeing a fellow human being write the phrase "hardcore liquid enthusiasts" with a straight face to excuse this useless product...

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Nothing wrong with being a liquid enthusiast. Some liquid enthusiasts I know are pretty chill. I heard Bear Grylls is ordering 100s of these for the next season of Man vs. Wild.
 
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thisisnotmyname

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Thanks for the thorough review Juli. The BT issues you mention were prevalent in an old build of the Firmware. Did you upgrade to the latest firmware before you started using Pryme?

We are working to fix the other issues you mentioned, so we appreciate the candid feedback.

Thanks again!

Since you're here, maybe you want to respond to the many comments about the horrible performance of your flagship project? Or maybe you don't.
 
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jclo

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Thanks for the thorough review Juli. The BT issues you mention were prevalent in an old build of the Firmware. Did you upgrade to the latest firmware before you started using Pryme?

We are working to fix the other issues you mentioned, so we appreciate the candid feedback.

Thanks again!

Yep, I had a firmware update as soon as I connected the cup to the app, so I'm sure I was using the latest firmware. Looks like there are still a few bugs to iron out, and I hope my review can help. Please feel free to email me for more info too, if it's needed. Thanks for chiming in here on the forums!

P.S. If you get a chance, sounds like some MR readers would love an update on the full version of the Vessyl.
 
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