Just know how much you need to walk a day and walk that much. Who cares about step trackers or anything like that, all the people who have ever bought them or are using to track what they are doing are just whatever it is that you want to insult other people with.Seeing a fellow human being write the phrase "hardcore liquid enthusiasts" with a straight face to excuse this useless product...
I hope the company is reading this: This is the dumbest thing I have ever seen humanity create, and everyone who ordered one is an idiot.
We already know when we are thirsty. Nobody needs to carry around special "smart" water cups, replace its batteries, and use fiddly tracking-apps just to get water into their belly.
Just read how much you need to drink in one day, and drink that much.
Drinking is one of the easiest things you can ever do in life. You've survived this long just fine. If you need more, just drink a few more glasses.
Drinking more is free and compatible with any glass in the world.
Next app from this company: How to breathe. "Remember to breathe. Type in how many breaths you have had today."
The movie Idiocracy apparently wasn't a comedy. It was a prophecy...
Given the stupidity of the product, I wouldn't be surprised if the spelling mistake is an accident. ;-)
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Review: Pryme Vessyl is an iPhone-Connected Smart Cup That Isn't Smart Enough
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Wow. This all sounds like a lot of work.
Call me when I can just implant a hydration-monitoring sensor at the CVS minute clinic.
Call me when I can just implant a hydration-monitoring sensor at the CVS minute clinic.
That is a horrible comparison. Step trackers solve a problem you cannot solve on your own; tracking distance.
Know what I did when I needed to drink more water? I read up online on how much I needed, and then simply drank an extra glass or two at every meal.
"Simply drink more" is compatible with any glass in the world. I can even drink directly from the faucet like a dog. And it is free. And I do not need to replace batteries in my regular glass, or do firmware updates on the glass, or bring my own glass to the school cafeteria or the restaurant. Best of all, I don't have to type in every bit of physical activity I do in a day onto a braindead "water app" on my smartphone.
Here, let me save everyone $199.99 (the cost of the Vessyl Prime):
"The Institute of Medicine determined that an adequate intake (AI) for men is roughly about 13 cups (3 liters) of total beverages a day. The AI for women is about 9 cups (2.2 liters) of total beverages a day." - that includes water that's in your food. So the rule is usually simplified to "drink eight 8-ounce glasses a day".
Here's an even simpler rule: "Generally, if you drink enough fluid so that you rarely feel thirsty and your urine is colorless or light yellow — and measures about 6.3 cups (1.5 liters) or more a day if you were to keep track — your fluid intake is adequate."
Done. Please send me $199.99 on PayPal as thanks for having saved you from needing to track minutiae of your daily activities in a stupid smartphone app, re-charging your water glass, and updating it firmware, for the rest of your life.
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People can't count steps on their own? But people can easily keep track or even know without much thinking how many ounces/millimeters/etc. they drank and realize and nag themselves when they need to drink more and how much more that would be as far as reaching their goal?
Thanks for the note. I'm not sure I see many comments about the performance, as the comments are more about the concept of tracking your hydration. To those comments, it's fair to be critical, and we welcome the skepticism. What we have seen, however, are people with migraines, kidney stones, unhealthy skin, or even those who get tired at work in the afternoons benefit significantly from using Pryme Vessyl throughout the day.
The concept of Pryme is about helping you be at your best when you need to be. Through decades of research and our internal team of medical doctors, we're confident that Pryme will be helpful to many (and we've already seen this come to life). It seems like the majority of the critical comments are from folks who might already be performing at the level they want to be, or folks who aren't familiar with the research behind optimal hydration.
Juli is someone who is clearly hydrating throughout the day, yet she can see the potential for this product for those not like her, which is why this is a solid review of the experience.
Yes, they can easily keep track of when they need more water. The systems for determining that are built into your body for free.
When your urine is colorless or light yellow, you are drinking enough water. When you rarely feel thirsty, you are drinking enough water.
We've survived for billions of years on this system.
If you need to remember to actually drink 8 regular glasses of water a day and can't do what I did (divide 8 by the number of meals a day and drinking 2-3 glasses at each meal), then feel free to google "glasses water day app" to have a simple glass-counter. There are free ones such as this one:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/daily-water-free-water-reminder/id466387763?mt=8
No need to complicate your life about something as simple as drinking water or breathing air.
Same kind of logic can apply to steps, and has applied, and yet step trackers are all around, especially these days, and no one is really making fun of them just because it feels silly to them.
I own one of these. It's actually really cool and useful for me at least. I keep myself so busy I go from one thing to the tiger and forget to hydrate.
That being said, it's probability a bad time to get one. It feels like a half baked product. The Bluetooth connection is flaky. I already have a crack from a knee level drop. The weirdest thing is that it keeps accumulating sips over my drive to work. So I can't drink water while driving. Otherwise the count is wrong.
Battery life is decent but could be better.
Since I've dropped it the cap doesn't have enough leverage to pop itself from the bottle. It's annoying.
I do hydrate myself more which is nice but there are still multiple small annoyances
That being said, it's probability a bad time to get one. It feels like a half baked product. The Bluetooth connection is flaky. I already have a crack from a knee level drop. The weirdest thing is that it keeps accumulating sips over my drive to work. So I can't drink water while driving. Otherwise the count is wrong.
Battery life is decent but could be better.
Since I've dropped it the cap doesn't have enough leverage to pop itself from the bottle. It's annoying.
I do hydrate myself more which is nice but there are still multiple small annoyances
They're benefitting from drinking more water. Not from the $199.99 Pryme Vessyl. If the issue is that they cannot remember how many glasses they've had (which is never an issue if you just make sure to drink 2-3 glasses per meal, and remembering to do that is far easier than looking at some app constantly), then give them a memory system.
If they're technophobes, give them a notepad and a pencil for about $2, and let them draw a little line every time they drink a glass of water, or if they insist on a smartphone solution then let them use this free app to count the glasses of water: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/daily-water-free-water-reminder/id466387763?mt=8. Draw 8 lines a day for eight glasses of water, or just use the app if the person really, really feels the need to bring smartphones into slurping water.
The coolest thing is that it's compatible with any glass in the world.
Everyone benefits from education about the fact that the body only feels thirst when you're already dehydrated, and that everyone should be drinking 8+ glasses of water a day. The easiest system is to just drink more with each meal (2-3 glasses each at breakfast, lunch, dinner and supper).
Whichever system they use, it's the water that cures them. They'll indeed stop migraines, kidney stones and unhealthy skin (which is indeed caused by lack of water). Their urine returns to healthy (colorless/light yellow) and they rarely feel thirst. They're done, for $0 to $2. They can donate the $198 they saved to the Red Cross or something.
If you had just stuck to developing something like an Apple Watch app to help people with water/health reminders, it would be a neat idea. But an extremely expensive, complicated, battery-guzzling glass and app that needs to be lugged around every day and complicates a total non-issue is just silly.
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This is a great debate and it's great to see people talking more about the importance of hydration. The truth (as research shows) is that human mechanisms that trigger hunger or thirst are enough to keep you alive, but not to keep you at your best. Pryme Vessyl is designed to help you be optimally hydrated throughout the day, which has many benefits (some of which you feel immediately).
As a society, we've also told you to stop eating when you feel full, yet the levels of obesity are substantial.
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Thanks for your feedback. We are currently building a solution for the car "Phantom Sips" as Juli mentioned in the article. You should also update to the newest Firmware when you get a chance (fixes BT issues). I'm not sure I understand the lid issue, but definitely reach out to support and we'll get you set up with a fix.
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I love your passion for hydration. Just to clarify, Pryme is $99 at Apple stores.
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Okay. I saw the price at https://www.myvessyl.com/design/ which says $199. It's a bit less insane at $99 but still insane. All for the inconvenience of carrying around a special cup all day wherever you go, and remembering to use that cup all the time so that it tracks how much you drank at that moment. It's silly.
I am very passionate about hydration and have helped lots of friends improve their health and energy. But I did it by simply showing them how to drink more, for free: Drink 2-3 glasses with each major meal of the day and you're done. They all succeeded in doing that, first try. No need to lug around an "adult sippy-cup" all day, as John C. Dvorak described the Vessyl in PC Mag: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2463406,00.asp - where he also reveals that when he first saw the promo video, he thought it was "a satire on the stupidity of the Silicon Valley gadget culture".
Here's an abbreviated quote from the article:
I'm out. Good luck.
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I can attest to this. If I only drank water when I was thirsty, I wouldn't get enough water. I also don't think I'd be getting enough if I followed the general guideline to drink 8 glasses a day. I don't eat three meals a day, so 2-3 glasses with major meals would also put me under my needs.
I have pretty severe dry eye syndrome and drinking a ton of water is one of the main things that helps. I do this naturally out of a long habit of drinking a lot of water, but there are people out there who need reminders. I mean, yeah, getting thirsty is an obvious natural mechanism, but some people get busy or ignore it and need extra motivation.
I don't think hydration is as black and white for everyone as it's made to seem in this thread, which is why hydration tracking apps and products like the Pryme Vessyl exist. There are some pretty comprehensive water tracking apps in the App Store that'll send reminders and I think those are a good starting point for someone who needs reminders to drink more.
@jclo: In your case I understand the need for reminders since you can't tie water to 4 meals reliably. The app I found sends notifications via the phone to remind you to drink, and you can use any glass: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/daily-water-free-water-reminder/id466387763?mt=8
There are many other apps. Just Google "glasses water day app".
Here's another that even lets you track what type of liquids you've had (for people suffering from OCD?): https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/waterlogged-drink-more-water/id352199775?mt=8
The second app offers "smart reminders" that only sends reminders when you're lagging behind and haven't drank anything in too long. What a great feature!
To enter a drink in the 2nd app, you just have to click a picture of your favorite container/glass types, if you've used that water source before. Yet another great feature.
For those who absolutely want technological assistance with drinking water, there are countless free solutions for this non-issue.
There are many other apps. Just Google "glasses water day app".
Here's another that even lets you track what type of liquids you've had (for people suffering from OCD?): https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/waterlogged-drink-more-water/id352199775?mt=8The second app offers "smart reminders" that only sends reminders when you're lagging behind and haven't drank anything in too long. What a great feature!
To enter a drink in the 2nd app, you just have to click a picture of your favorite container/glass types, if you've used that water source before. Yet another great feature.
For those who absolutely want technological assistance with drinking water, there are countless free solutions for this non-issue.
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Just as there are for reminders to move more and increase your step count, but again, actual step counter devices are more than popular with people owning them and buying them left and right.@jclo: In your case I understand the need for reminders since you can't tie water to 4 meals reliably. The app I found sends notifications via the phone to remind you to drink, and you can use any glass: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/daily-water-free-water-reminder/id466387763?mt=8
There are many other apps. Just Google "glasses water day app".
The second app offers "smart reminders" that only sends reminders when you're lagging behind and haven't drank anything in too long. What a great feature!
There are countless free solutions for this non-issue.
No... a step counter and a drinking counter are not even in the same realm...... one walks but doesn't actually count the steps...... one drinks and that's easy to remember. Stop being foolish.
Most people pay attention to and know how many ounces they drink throughout the day? Just because the numbers are smaller doesn't mean people are paying attention. Let's not try to just deflect by focusing on the less relevant part while ignoring the more relevant one.
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Yes..... I have had aprox 64 oz of fluid.... can't tell you how many steps I've taken. I'd say it's a lot easier for a person to tell how much liquid they've consumed than how many steps they've taken.... to argue differently seems like you're arguing for the sake of arguing.
Easier to count smaller numbers sure, doesn't mean anything at all as far as majority actually paying attention or being it easy for them to pay attention or remind themselves at appropriate intervals to have more if they haven't gotten enough. Again, focusing on the wrong part of that analogy. Seems like some are arguing essentially simply because they don't feel like something could be useful to them and are somehow upset that someone else might find it useful/helpful in whatever way it might be for them.
I've heard of "a solution looking for a problem"...I don't know if this even qualifies as that.
At $50 it might be an As-Seen-On-TV or Sharper Image impulse buy for the "Oh crap, <some person we have to buy something for> has an iPhone, right? Here's some <useless bauble>".
At $200? Wow.
At $50 it might be an As-Seen-On-TV or Sharper Image impulse buy for the "Oh crap, <some person we have to buy something for> has an iPhone, right? Here's some <useless bauble>".
At $200? Wow.
Stephen Colbert mocked this thing almost two years ago.
Check it: http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/15/5901445/stephen-colbert-mocks-vessyl-smart-cup
Check it: http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/15/5901445/stephen-colbert-mocks-vessyl-smart-cup
Am a backer of this for the original Vessyl. You'd think, why would anybody announce something if not immediately ready to ship... but I guess that's not how these things work. Definitely will be more careful next time.
If this isn't waterproof as the original Vessyl was marketed as then this sucks. I was half excited to have the Prime Vessyl in the mean time (whilst the Vessyl - if it ever does - comes to fruition) but I'm not getting my hopes up.
If this isn't waterproof as the original Vessyl was marketed as then this sucks. I was half excited to have the Prime Vessyl in the mean time (whilst the Vessyl - if it ever does - comes to fruition) but I'm not getting my hopes up.
The way I see it, it would be easier to keep track of how much water you have drunk (in terms of cups poured) compared to individual steps.
Looking at the pedometer app on my iPhone, I have clocked 10419 steps so far. How am I supposed to know whether I have clocked my 10000 steps for the day? Surely you can't expect me to be silently keeping track of my steps under my breath every time I am walking, right?
But with water, I just need to roughly remember how many cups of water I have poured, which shouldn't be more than 30 cups a day? It would be a far easier number to remember. Or at work, I have a huge water bottle and a large glass jug at my desk. So every time I need to refill my jug, that's that much water consumed.
On the record, I do like the idea of the devices around me quantifying how much water I am drinking and so on. I guess it is good enough to go by "feel", but sometimes, you just want to be more certain and just how much water you are imbibing. I was one of those who preordered the Vessyl but eventually cancelled because the delivery date kept getting pushed back. I guess in hindsight, the concept might be a tad flawed if you are tying it to a single cup (and one which apparently doesn't even work right). $99 for a cup that leaks, needs nightly charging, and from what I have read on Amazon, even more fragile and restrictive in its use case as due to its sensitive electronics?
Perhaps this is one of those things that sounds way better in theory than it actually works.
I preordered when it started, and I am glad I cancelled and got my money back as I don't see the product ever getting done (delays over delays).
Never got as far as recieveing a free prime (cancelled a couple of months before that), and what puzzles me the most is that they post more here than in their blog :S
Loved the concept, but just completely lost faith on the company, wich apparently promised much much more than they were able to do, and the catching up has not been as smooth as "predicted".
It's a pity, I really wanted them to succeed, but as always one should underpromise and overdeliver....and not the other way around.
To change my mind right now I would have to try the Vessyl / Prime before purchasing.....better yet Mark One send a free Prime here in Italy and I might test it and change my mind....
#someonewhobelivedinthis
Never got as far as recieveing a free prime (cancelled a couple of months before that), and what puzzles me the most is that they post more here than in their blog :S
Loved the concept, but just completely lost faith on the company, wich apparently promised much much more than they were able to do, and the catching up has not been as smooth as "predicted".
It's a pity, I really wanted them to succeed, but as always one should underpromise and overdeliver....and not the other way around.
To change my mind right now I would have to try the Vessyl / Prime before purchasing.....better yet Mark One send a free Prime here in Italy and I might test it and change my mind....
#someonewhobelivedinthis
I also preordered the original Vessyl back in 2014.
Good thing that you pulled out when you did and got your refund. I'm still waiting on my "free"/apology Pryme Vessyl.
I get that delays happen, even though it's disappointing I can understand it, but I no longer get any updates in regards to either the Pryme or the original Vessyl unless I email them and I basically get the same response which is basically we have no idea when either is shipping.
It is unfortunate as I had a lot of hope for the product and am glad that the people I tried to encourage to order the product never got around to it because they too would have also been waiting for literally years for something that was a couple of months away.