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I thought iPhone owners didn't care about specs and everything was ok provided the phone works? So why are you comparing benchtest results? Surely so long as the phones work and run smoothly none of you care?
Yep. But the benchmarks can tell you how smoothly the phone runs. :p

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All the reviews I read just have praises for the camera, for the 6. I presume 6+ will be the same. This makes me happy.

Thenks to the OIS, the 6 Plus camera should actually be even better.
 
I didn't notice difference..

Well, Techcrunch did:
"Technically speaking the OIS “gives you back” around 3 stops of light, letting you shoot at slower shutter speeds with decent quality."

If you take a lot of pictures with your phone, you will care a lot about camera performance. If you care a lot about camera performance, then 3 stops is a huge difference.
 
Well, Techcrunch did:
"Technically speaking the OIS “gives you back” around 3 stops of light, letting you shoot at slower shutter speeds with decent quality."

If you take a lot of pictures with your phone, you will care a lot about camera performance. If you care a lot about camera performance, then 3 stops is a huge difference.

Here is full quote

The results are great, no matter which you shoot with. I was consistently blown away with the low-light performance of both models. Technically speaking the OIS “gives you back” around 3 stops of light, letting you shoot at slower shutter speeds with decent quality. That’s great, but is applicable to a small slice of your overall shooting. Still subjects while you’re also relatively still at night or at dusk. It won’t help you with moving subjects at all, something that Apple has tried to fix by combining long and short exposures (a new trick) together to create a sharper image. That works on both models.

Have you checked samples they provided? There is no 3 stop difference between 6 vs 6 plus pictures and they themselves say don't buy 6 plus for its OIS.
 
Reviews are out!

To the people complaining that the 6+ was rated lower by some sites due to its size:

Read the reviews. It's not merely the size. It's the design combined with the size. For instance, Engadget repeatedly compared the 6+ to the Note and said the 6+ is less comfortable and more difficult to manage. So it's size and design. Somehow the design works for the 6 but not as well for the 6+. (At least according to some reviewers)
 
Well, good for you -- You can recognize and take your "out" with stride...

Just hope nobody clicks on your screen name and selects "find more posts by..." or your nonchalant cover may be blown!!

Ummmmm, ok. Wut? What psychological revelation have you suddenly arrived at?
 

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So the 6+ has better battery and display (not sure about performance) but is reviewed at a slightly lower score than the 6.... primarily on the enormous size factor?

seems to be enormous size factor as well as the sense that Apple hasn't fully taken advantage of it yet/it's just bigger and that's ALL it is. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/17/t...6-plus-its-whats-inside-that-counts.html?_r=0

Even though that's not entirely true because of the battery, pixels, OIS, etc. I kind of get it. I'm still hoping that for the next one--6 plus...S? lol, they'll figure out a little bit more what to do with it and then I'll leap. If I can't put it in my back pocket anymore, I need something more feature-wise to make up for losing the portability. It's SO gorgeous though, I waffled for days over whether I should get it.
 
While not his personal choice (he prefers smaller screen sizes), Gruber's review hits the nail on the head for me as far as why I want to try the 6 Plus.

http://daringfireball.net/2014/09/the_iphones_6

If you simply want a bigger iPhone, get the 4.7-inch iPhone 6. That’s what it feels like: a bigger iPhone.

If you want something bigger than an iPhone, get the 5.5-inch iPhone 6 Plus. It feels more like a new device — a hybrid device class that is bigger than an iPhone but smaller than an iPad Mini — than it feels like a bigger iPhone.

If you don’t want a bigger iPhone — and in recent weeks I’ve heard from numerous readers who still pine for the 3.5-inch display iPhones — you might be disappointed by this year’s iPhone lineup, and should consider sticking with the iPhone 5-class models. (Note that Apple is continuing to sell two models of the iPhone 5S: 16 GB for $99, and 32 GB for $149. That 32 GB model to me looks like a hedge on Apple’s part.)
 
What people fail to realize in all these reviews and all our fighting is that phone size is completely subjective so there is no definitive "better" phone. Yes one may open an app under certain conditions .0001 ms faster but those conditions are not often present in real life situations.

Bottom line, they both are great and both perform similarly, get the size YOU prefer.
 
Guys, relax! They’re both GREAT phones and a few extra (or less) points here and there (in either direction for either model) on some bench-marking tests won’t be felt in real world day-to-day use. I am just happy to see actual reviews go up with real iPhones and reputable reviewers (instead of shaky camera rush-to-YouTube video leaks by guys wearing really tacky Polo shirts).

I am sure that both the 6 and 6+ will perform similarly in real world usage. I just wish review sites would stop rating the Plus lower due to its large size. It’s supposed to be big, that’s its single selling advantage over the 6 for those who want a bigger phone, so I don’t see how the size can be seen as a negative. If it’s too big, get the 6 - that's why there are two to choose from. Simple.
 
seems to be enormous size factor as well as the sense that Apple hasn't fully taken advantage of it yet/it's just bigger and that's ALL it is. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/17/t...6-plus-its-whats-inside-that-counts.html?_r=0

Even though that's not entirely true because of the battery, pixels, OIS, etc. I kind of get it. I'm still hoping that for the next one--6 plus...S? lol, they'll figure out a little bit more what to do with it and then I'll leap. If I can't put it in my back pocket anymore, I need something more feature-wise to make up for losing the portability. It's SO gorgeous though, I waffled for days over whether I should get it.

The confusing thing about this NYTimes review is that the reviewer states that the battery was better on the 6, rather than the 6 Plus. She stated something along the lines, "with the 6 she got 2 days out of one charge, where as with the 6 Plus she could only get a day with constant usage, which is still great for a phone that size…"

Color me confused!
 
Guys, relax! They’re both GREAT phones and a few extra (or less) points here and there (in either direction for either model) on some bench-marking tests won’t be felt in real world day-to-day use. I am just happy to see actual reviews go up with real iPhones and reputable reviewers (instead of shaky camera rush-to-YouTube video leaks by guys wearing really tacky Polo shirts).

I am sure that both the 6 and 6+ will perform similarly in real world usage. I just wish review sites would stop rating the Plus lower due to its large size. It’s supposed to be big, that’s its single selling advantage over the 6 for those who want a bigger phone, so I don’t see how the size can be seen as a negative. If it’s too big, get the 6 - that's why there are two to choose from. Simple.

Reading through the reviews, it's not JUST because it's bigger, it's because there's not enough feature-wise to separate it from the 6 to justify the size/loss of portability. Very little added functionality etc. compared to other phablets in the market. I agree--even though I'd never buy something like a Note 4 just because I don't think you can depend on Droids for long term reliability.

But keep it in perspective, we're talking about a difference between 4.5/5 vs 4/5, or 87/100 vs 90/100 between the two. Which means reviewers still love both phones so it's not that big of a deal if one is rated slightly better. You have to decide what you lose vs what you gain by going smaller or bigger for yourself.
 
A phablet needs to be experienced at least once and I for one am glad I did with the Note 3. Now folks have the opportunity on IOS with the Plus.

It may work out BUT I did not return the Note 3 at 14 days. We'll see if that happens with the Plus, folks changing their minds after the return period.

Two months all told for me, actually got a good price when I sold it. No regrets, enjoy and I am anxious to read "your" review and experience for your's truly is the only one that matters.
 
Guys, relax! They’re both GREAT phones and a few extra (or less) points here and there (in either direction for either model) on some bench-marking tests won’t be felt in real world day-to-day use. I am just happy to see actual reviews go up with real iPhones and reputable reviewers (instead of shaky camera rush-to-YouTube video leaks by guys wearing really tacky Polo shirts).

I am sure that both the 6 and 6+ will perform similarly in real world usage. I just wish review sites would stop rating the Plus lower due to its large size. It’s supposed to be big, that’s its single selling advantage over the 6 for those who want a bigger phone, so I don’t see how the size can be seen as a negative. If it’s too big, get the 6 - that's why there are two to choose from. Simple.

WELL SAID. Totally agree.
 
Guys, relax! They’re both GREAT phones and a few extra (or less) points here and there (in either direction for either model) on some bench-marking tests won’t be felt in real world day-to-day use. I am just happy to see actual reviews go up with real iPhones and reputable reviewers (instead of shaky camera rush-to-YouTube video leaks by guys wearing really tacky Polo shirts).

I am sure that both the 6 and 6+ will perform similarly in real world usage. I just wish review sites would stop rating the Plus lower due to its large size. It’s supposed to be big, that’s its single selling advantage over the 6 for those who want a bigger phone, so I don’t see how the size can be seen as a negative. If it’s too big, get the 6 - that's why there are two to choose from. Simple.

By this argument, if Apple came out with a 7.5" iPhone it should be top rated, because the battery would be better, the camera would be better, the screen would look great because it's so big. If it's a mobile phone it has to be rated on size whether it's to large or to small. This argument isn't going to be settled until the 6+ is reviewed as something other than a mobile phone. It needs to be in another class, and knowing Apple, it will create a class and the 6+ will be at the top of the class. But for now, when reviewed in the mobile phone category the 6 is the better option, all things considered.
 
seems to be enormous size factor as well as the sense that Apple hasn't fully taken advantage of it yet/it's just bigger and that's ALL it is. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/17/t...6-plus-its-whats-inside-that-counts.html?_r=0

Even though that's not entirely true because of the battery, pixels, OIS, etc. I kind of get it. I'm still hoping that for the next one--6 plus...S? lol, they'll figure out a little bit more what to do with it and then I'll leap. If I can't put it in my back pocket anymore, I need something more feature-wise to make up for losing the portability. It's SO gorgeous though, I waffled for days over whether I should get it.

Nailed it.

6+ owners...welcome to the iPad 3 in a smaller package. Be prepared to replace it with the "real" version when the 6S+ arrives.
 
By this argument, if Apple came out with a 7.5" iPhone it should be top rated, because the battery would be better, the camera would be better, the screen would look great because it's so big. If it's a mobile phone it has to be rated on size whether it's to large or to small. This argument isn't going to be settled until the 6+ is reviewed as something other than a mobile phone. It needs to be in another class, and knowing Apple, it will create a class and the 6+ will be at the top of the class. But for now, when reviewed in the mobile phone category the 6 is the better option, all things considered.


I'm sorry if I have made a mistake in reading your comment, but how does your statement (highlighted in bold above) make any sense at all?

Could you please explain to me how Apple has created or will create a new class of phones by entering the pre-existing class of "phablets" which have been around for at least 3 years now?

I've been a macrumors member and lurker for a long time, but never have I seen so many vain/uneducated comments show up in the boards until the date of the Iphone 6 pre-order.
 
I've owned both a Samsung Note 2 and 3. Loved the big screen, however hated holding it. Samsung S4 had the perfect size for mobile use; so will the iphone 6. Sorry plus; I know how much Apple wanted me to buy you instead.
 
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