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Revised Mac mini now shipping?

bodeh6 said:
Mac mini is now going to be updated twice in about 4 months and the Powerbook is going on to about 8 months. Not good Apple.
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PowerBook for several years has always been updated about once a year.

There is more scope for Mac Mini upgrades than PowerBook upgrades.

If Apple upgraded PB without a new processor, people would complain, if they ship with a new processor, people would still complain about it.
 
iMeowbot said:
That's a very common practice, and the only thing unusual about Apple is that they don't do it as often as others. That's why they have the disclaimer on all their specification lists: "Product specifications are subject to change without notice."
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I Agree, the periodic cheapo PC's offered by aldi supermarkets only print the lowest specs, if you get lucky its a better machine than advertised.
 
advanced knowledge sucks

I think this sucks only for those who know about it. If you didnt, wow what I got is better. If you didnt, you know there are some people out there that are lucky. Therein lies the disappointment of some.

The best solution is to wait a whole WEEK before they print the new boxes and flush the old inventory.

-Eric
 
Bonte said:
I Agree, the periodic cheapo PC's offered by aldi supermarkets only print the lowest specs, if you get lucky its a better machine than advertised.
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Comparing the advertising and supply chain of Apple to "cheapo PC's" and Aldi!?

Good lord, I thought Apple were the upper echelon of home computing :D
 
sounds like a nice upgrade, but i would wait until you know you can get one for sure! unless you want a mac mini and dont care about the specs, then you might just get lucky!!! im kinda disapointed that the larger vram videocards dont support tiger core imaging though, as thinksecret mentions. :-/
 
danp said:
I have to confess that in all my PC machine and component buying time, I can't think of a single occasion where I have received an item with an alternative specification to the item I ordered -- barring incompetence in the packing room.
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I used to get variations all the time with volume purchases. IBM did it, DEC did it, Dell did it, Leading Edge did it, Micron did it. Sometimes they were just board revisions, sometimes updated processors, sometimes completely different boards inside, once in a while the cabinets weren't even the same. It made for serious annoyances when it came time to deal with repairs and upgrades, but it's always happened.
 
wdlove said:
Some just enjoy complaining. It's just best to wait and order the Mac mini that a person desires. It seems now that Apple is trying to sell off as many of the older version before the official release. No reason to gamble.
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Well the Norwegian Apple Store have extended the iPod deal till 8th of October. Maybe this is an indication of when the update will take place?
Another thing I'm thinking is that they may be updating more than just the mini and the other product is'nt ready. So they are waiting with introducing the mini until all is ready?
 
danp said:
But as a switcher considering his first step into the Mac world, I'm not exactly inspired by what appears (superficially, at least) to be a botched up effort to gloss over poor stock management. You have to confess, its a poor show for such a large company - exacerbated by these rumour sites, granted.
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There's no way Apple can manage all the stock at all of its worldwide Apple-branded stores and resellers without moving a lot of stock. After all, Apple does not control what its resellers order. Unlike Dells that are ordered on-line and manufactured after they're ordered, there are actually thousands of physical units in stores (of course, you can also custom order at the on-line Apple Store). To save its resellers a lot of grief (which Apple has NOT been known for in the past), Apple has held off on even announcing that a new product is in the works. Legally, nobody can have a problem with this, because everyone is getting AT LEAST what Apple is advertising (who's going to complain about getting more than they paid for?).

Once most of the current units are moved out, Apple will officially announce the upgrade. After that, anyone who gets an older unit when they were expecting the new specs can complain. Until then, if you really want the new specs and can't wait until they are officially announced, order a built-to-order unit on-line, since Apple would not be making any more of the old units. Just add a modem or some RAM.

On a side note, just for fun, I saved an order for a Power Mac, and shortly after received a message from an Apple sales rep, saying that I should contact him if I wanted to proceed with the order, because he could arrange for me to get a discount. Is this normal Apple practice, or is something in the works for the Power Macs, too? Let the speculation begin...
 
I'll tell you why this is wrong. Its not a bonus its deceptive. By shipping better minis in the old packaging they are not allowing resellers to discount the 1.42 units. The older units need to be cheaper now and the 1.5ghz units same price as before.
 
IEatApples said:
Well the Norwegian Apple Store have extended the iPod deal till 8th of October. Maybe this is an indication of when the update will take place?
Another thing I'm thinking is that they may be updating more than just the mini and the other product is'nt ready. So they are waiting with introducing the mini until all is ready?
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Ya mean that the Powerbook G5s are coming along??? Jätte bra!!!! ;)
 
I'm almost ready to buy a new machine, but I think I'll wait until Apple officially updates the specs on their website...
 
I really am in the market for a mac mini!!!

Despite "Apple Lotto" in this moment, it's a very honest upgrade. It will sure add value to the Mini, wich, in my opinion, it is a very good computer anyway.

So, let's just wait a little to buy the new version.

I think that tomorrow Apple will release the official info. :D
 
Gawd, too many messages since last night.

I think someone asked, but the system profiler lists the hard drive as

ST9808211A (Seagate momentus 5400.2)

I also checked the bottom of the mini and it's still listed as a 1.42 Ghz model.
 
Vericuka Salk said:
I just lost a lot of respect for Apple. You might get a new one... or you might not. You pay your money and you take your chances. What kind of crap is this? Just lower the price on the previous models like any other company would do. I hope they get sued over this.
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Sued for what? Is the product in the box at least equal to what is on the website?

You guys get angry too easily. In the culture of now, now, now, your anger is amusing and annoying. Is a month too long to wait until they officially announce the new mac mini?

Don't pretend you're being shorted. You're not. Some people are getting lucky.

This is probably the best way to clear back inventory. Why have suppliers run out of minis because of a near future update? It's happened before to Apple. This way stores never run out and any minis shipped back to Apple have a chance at a second life via just being inserted into a new box.
 
petej said:
Apple is experimenting with the mini. Dell being an online retailer can happily bump specs as they see fit. Apple however will always have stock sitting in warehouses. The old fashioned model of running stocks down before an upgrade and leaving retailers with empty shelves for weeks is not good for sales. Neither is announcing a new model when there is old stock sitting in the warehouse. This looks like an experimental strategy to even out sales whilst still providing regular updates. It also sounds like a good strategy for dealing with regular intel updates. Could quarterly updates be on the plan for the future?
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I think this is good thinking.

We must remind ourselves that the Intel CPUs are coming (anyone needed reminding? :D )
We maybe can look a bit into the future here.... It could be that the future MacTels will get regular (minor) updates. And instead of Apple making a big deal about every update, Apple could introduce this kind of quiet upgrades. You could be buying a Dual Core 2.5 GHz Pentium M, but actuall get at least 2.5 GHz... Maybe 2.6 Ghz, or a slightly bigger HD, or better grfx cards.....
 
MacinDoc said:
Once most of the current units are moved out, Apple will officially announce the upgrade. After that, anyone who gets an older unit when they were expecting the new specs can complain. Until then, if you really want the new specs and can't wait until they are officially announced, order a built-to-order unit on-line, since Apple would not be making any more of the old units. Just add a modem or some RAM.
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I'd be surprised is Apple some how farked up and put an old mini in a new box.

It's pretty easy to make sure things get boxed correctly. After all when was the last time anyone ordered an iPod and got the wrong version?
 
I was ready, but......

minimac said:
I'm almost ready to buy a new machine, but I think I'll wait until Apple officially updates the specs on their website...
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I was ready to replace my Mac mini (1.25Ghz, 512MB) with the new upgrade, but I have decided not to. I am going to try and break my Apple addiction for buying every new thing that comes out. I will wait for the mini with the Intel processor since even the latest upgrade really is not that monumental. If I bought another mini now, I would probably end up buying the Intel version anyway.
 
SiliconAddict said:
Oh damn that is so tempting....how does a 1.5Ghz handle HD content? e.g. H.264? If I'm getting a Mac mini its for a home entertainment center PC. :confused:
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I have the Rev. A 1.42 GHz one....
Forget HD.... even MPEG2 (so not even H.264!) encoded HD movies don't play fluently (720p is 15-20 fps, 1080p/i gets below 10). :(

If you want to watch a 1080p H.264 encoded movie, hope for a Dual 2 GHz G5 mini... or the eventual Pentium M mini.
 
A Common Practice?

Isn't this still a common practice to help clear inventory?
I remember back in the late 90s when I was building a PC, I bought a 48x CD-Rom and was surprised to find a 52x CD-Rom instead.
As well, I bought a 5 Gig Hard Drive once, and a 6 gig was in the box.

They have laws that say you have to actually put the same thing in the box as the label on the box says. *crazy people*
Usually, people don't complain about a little more in the box, and I'm sure that those companies would have been happy to ship me a lower spec'ed item than I recieved provided I would pay shipping.
 
If these bumps in specs are really the real deal, then this will be a nice mini to have for the price. Of course, it pretty much leaves the 1.33GHz model the one not to get. 1.5GHz would provide that nice bump in power.

As for the other specs, I think it's finally nice they have an 5400 rpm drive now. Also, the 64Mb VRAM bump is nice, although I can see having a 9500 instead of the 9200 being a lot better. And I would love to have the extra RAM... just for the ability to have better resolution support.

But... the one question I didn't see in all of this is if the mini now can take a 2gb DIMM? 2gb would be a nice top out for RAM. I noticed the new boot ROM and wondered if this was part of the new features.
 
Complaints as always. :rolleyes: We aren't even sure if this is true at all. Maybe it's just one rare exception/mistake. If it is true this is good news for those who hang around the rumor sites. We might get a better clue as whether to wait or not for an update than the "buyer's guide" offers us.
 
I'm curiosly thinking about if there'll be any heat issue with the upcoming mactel minis? :confused:

We already know that today's IntelPCs have a real "hot" heat issues. I'd read this somewhere else; while standart PCs need ~250watts, the mac minis just need ~20watts.. Numbers may be wrong, if so please correct me.
 
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