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Riot Shuts Down Foxconn Plant, Impact on iPhone 5 Production Unclear
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Good post. Of course Apple can build the infrastructure in 3-5 years, otherwise, we will only have lawyers and unemployed, and then who will be buying the iToys? Greedy "outsourcing" will eventually backfire.
Oh no! Mods! Someone called me a name! Are you going to warn them like you warn the **** out of me?
Since you have nothing interesting to say, nor anyone to call, you won't need them. Cancel your order.
That $100 billion has been spent many times over hypothetically by would-be do gooders, be it in the form of cheaper products, plants in the US, or whatever dreams people have for other people's money.
Look at the performance of our schools and tell us that we could quickly educate thousands of engineers, as well as doctors, chemists, and whatever else people want. Our universities are capable of doing that, but only if we allow a big influx of immigrants, which would have significant political obstacles. Otherwise, it would be far longer than a 3-5 year plan to build up a workforce.
I actually think it would be a good idea to bring in more skilled immigrants as it would help grow our economy. However, that's very difficult to explain to people when unemployment is high. Apple can't snap its fingers and get something passed. All of Silicon Valley as well as Microsoft and other companies have been jumping up and down for years that we need more skilled immigrants here, but particularly since 9/11 it's been a tough sell. Bringing in 100 engineers might allow a plant employing 1000 to stay here vs. being moved to China or India.
All I know is they better get it cleaned up and get back to work. Demand is very high right now and the last thing that Apple needs is any production loss. Corporate profits could suffer if they lose capacity and that's the last thing Apple and it's shareholders need right now.
What I mean is: stop using 'we' for other people you don't know.
Yes, all sorts of things are possible.
Are you claiming now that Apple would save cash by doing this for the iPhone? Or just continuing to blindly mouth off?
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It is true, however there are two problems with this idea. There is a worldwide shortage of highly skilled people and US is no longer an attractive proposition with other markets offering a much better lifestyle, compensation, benefits to the professional segment.
I tried to write a post for this thread that would present my thoughts about this disturbing article but I just couldn't do it.
I will just say this, 79,000 employees. SEVENTY NINE THOUSAND FIRCKING EMPLOYEES. Living there must be hell, but that apparently isn't bad enough so the guards have to beat the crap out of you? No wonder they are killing themselves. No wonder they have to put nets around the building to catch suicide attempts!
I hope it isn't as bad as I suspect but man, I am feeling pretty guilty about having too much ****.
I will just say this, 79,000 employees. SEVENTY NINE THOUSAND FIRCKING EMPLOYEES. Living there must be hell, but that apparently isn't bad enough so the guards have to beat the crap out of you? No wonder they are killing themselves. No wonder they have to put nets around the building to catch suicide attempts!
I hope it isn't as bad as I suspect but man, I am feeling pretty guilty about having too much ****.
Cheap overseas labor has most definitely transformed the consumer products market, and products have indeed gotten cheaper for consumers so as to drive the continual upgrade cycles.
We've shifted away from relatively expensive, durable goods made by skilled workers toward much more cheaply produced products that are only intended to last until the next upgrade cycle. Just look at the cost of a television 20-30 years ago, when a lot of them were still produced here. They were expensive up front and you had people fix them when they broke. Now they're dirt cheap (practically an impulse buy at this point) and you throw them out and get the new model when they break. Or you throw them out and upgrade just because they now seem "slow" and don't have the latest features. Same for your computer and pretty much every piece of electronics in your house. Not to mention clothing and pretty much any other consumer item we buy.
Can manufacturers keep up that kind of design and production cycle with well-paid labor? More importantly, how long can we keep throwing out our gadgets for new ones every 2-3 years before the environmental and social costs become too great?
I once got reprimanded for calling myself pedantic. Which I am. But someone complained.
I'm from South Africa. I chose to live in the United States. I have seen more crime, violence and corruption than you will ever know. That being said, I have CHOSEN my country of residence accordingly. If you don't like your government or economic system, MOVE and stop being such a weiner.
And what do you mean, " By the same token " ? You're just spouting random phrases haphazardly.
LOL. You don't even know me. Would putting someone down or arguing for the sake of arguing suit you better?
Stop telling me what should I be "using" - you are not my boss. That was just a question, but if 'we' does not work for you, fine, how about 'you'? Do YOU support a slave labor based capitalism?
"blindly mouth off" - that sounds like a rude personal attack - can't YOU control yourself? Yes, I suggest that in the long run Apple would save cash, just like samsungs and toyotas do. Otherwise that cash will remain in Asian banks forever.Yes, all sorts of things are possible.
Unacceptable. Who was the master that let these slaves out of control? I want names!! My iPhone better be here on time, or heads will roll!! *sarcasm*
Even with our restrictions, we still attract far more immigrants than any other country. The EU collectively was becoming attractive, but the whole sovereign debt crisis threatens that. Don't think you'll be able to offer all those "free" benefits for much longer.
The reason of the riot is because the Black iPhones came with scratches. Apple contacted the Manager of Foxconn in China, who was agressive towards the workers, and they revolted.
Are you ********** kidding me?
That's really all you care about?
Oh no! Corporate profits! Some CEO might have to come home with a few million less. The horrors! Those slaves better get back to work! Think of the corporate profits!
They are not Apple employees. Foxconn is a contractor who builds PC motherboards and all manner of electronics....such as iPhones...under contract. The last thing China wants is driving up the cost of Chinese labor. The biggest threat to China being the world's workshop is labor cost. If Chinese labor costs goes too high....there is always India waiting to replace them. I would not want to be a Chinese laborer.