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Do you have anything to support this assertion? Do you think there are no minimum wage jobs currently open in the US? I strongly doubt that most of the unemployed are willing to take minimum wage jobs. Unless the job they lost was minimum wage. Do you really think someone who was making $12 an hour and is collecting unemployment is going to take a minimum wage job doing repetitive labor?
Usual excuses. About a dozen of America based car assembly factories have to trouble finding people to do low cost repetitive labor.
 
They are not Apple's workers. They are Foxconn employees. And as I recall Apple did go out of their way to try to get Foxconn employees more pay and better working conditions. How many companies do you know that will go out of their way to make sure another companies employees get treated better?

not Samsung, who also uses Foxconn and has recently been cited for the same issues. And sometimes worse. The Apple lines were said to have 15-17 year olds that lied about their age, supposedly the Samsung line has kids as young as 10. But where are the investigations, the huge headlines etc
 
Nothing serious...

I'm sure they were just demanding to watch a soccer game live on the telly... :rolleyes:
 
not Samsung, who also uses Foxconn and has recently been cited for the same issues. And sometimes worse. The Apple lines were said to have 15-17 year olds that lied about their age, supposedly the Samsung line has kids as young as 10. But where are the investigations, the huge headlines etc

Actually - there were investigations. Samsung (just like Apple) will be auditing the plants they use - and end contracts if the plants are found to be in violation.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/sep/05/samsung-accused-exploiting-workers-china
 
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but demanding in free speech and the free market Apple bring jobs here and pay people better is capitalism at its finest. Shouting down free speech and demanding production for the benefit of some sort of bureaucracy which controls the political process with limited liabilities? That's pretty darned communist when you think about it. You don't support capitalism and bargaining, do you.

What part about that don't you understand. The very basis of capitalism is the ability to freely negotiate "bargaining" with vendors for the best price. Therefore allowing my company and companies like Apple to make a profit as they see fit. Paying people better and demanding Apple build factories in the US is about as communist as it gets. Paying uneducated, lazy white trash that all bitch about $8 an hour vs educating themselves and learning any sort of trade skill is the problem in the states. The government basically offers free college education via student loans to those less fortunate but they would rather bitch and moan and drink/smoke up any money they have then get up and better themselves.

Just to make sure you fully understand the definition...



Definition of CAPITALISM

: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market


Priviate decision... aka Apple gets to choose where they have their products built. Not blackmailed into some unions workers BS desire to make $20, $30 or $40+ an hour.

I very much support the ability to have any number of companies "bid" to work for my company. The unions took that ability away in the US and clear proof how that fails is the fact Obama motors needed our tax dollars to bail them out because the union has these companies by the balls. Apple cannot compete in a free market by paying high school drop outs $40+ an hour union wages with lifetime union benefits. The very basis of a free market allows Apple to outsource labor and the only ones to blame are the good ol boy's in the USA supporting unions.
 
Foxconn produces components for many companies, not just Apple. Foxconn workers are not Apple employees.

If you think Apple couldn't affect how Foxconn treats its employees you're naive. In addition, Apple HAS given Foxconn additional money which was reportedly to go to giving its employees either better conditions and/or salary increases (I forget which or if it was both).
 
there are either major translation issues or this guy is full of crap, because there are no earphone jacks or connector ports on the iPhone back plate.

Not that I would put translation problems or your other suggestion past possible .. but if you consider the unibody aluminumframe the "backplate" .. then there would be a headphone jack in there.
 
I think, and would hope that the guards beat anyone causing even a minute delay in the production of the IPhone 5.
 
This is a good thing!

The faster Chinese workers get their human rights, the faster manufacturing work will return to western nations to some extent.

best,
SvK
 
I think it's obvious why fingers immediately point to Apple vs other manufacturers. It's because they are the most profitable. Boast about how profitable they are. Boast about how much they do for the working conditions, etc.

Apple hasn't been the "underdog" for a very long time and some people still think of them that way and are surprised when Apple is attacked for doing just what everyone else does.

Apple isn't necc. MORE accountable. But they are accountable (I'm not referring to this specific incident, mind you - just in the logic in finger pointing). And if they enjoy being "#1" in the industry (perceived or not) they will always be in the headline when the S!@#$ hits the fan.
Except that Apple has always been attacked this way. Even in 1998.
 
Lets hope some kind of investigation can identify the real cause of this issue. I don't really trust those so called past reports on the conditions of the plants in china. Folks don't riot for no reason. Sooner or later people will rise to defend human rights. Just hope china doesn't use its military to enforce the labor at the factories.
Am surprised at allot of the responses here more concerned about the production of the iphone than the people making them. Pretty sad.
 
Except that Apple has always been attacked this way. Even in 1998.

For their work conditions? I don't recall. For other things perhaps. But I don't think they were attacked for things relating to the environment or their supply chain.
 
Also, RED Digital Cinema cameras (same guy who started oakley) are made in the US aswell. And they are cheaper (and better) than the competition which is made in China.

Aha. And I am sure you, and another 500M RED fanboys get a new model every two years. After reading most of the posts here, the majority of you would fail to properly close the box at the assembly line, or put the sticker on it.
 
Anyone who owns an Apple product is a complete hypocrite if you try and act like you give 2 poops about the working conditions over there. If you truly did, you would not buy an Apple product.

Anybody who posts in all bold or capital letters should be ignored on the forum.
 
Foxconn Worker # 3 Zhao Fei
“I love reading the Legend of Steve Jobs, but I can’t afford an iPhone 5″
 

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Children are easier to control...call the company Foxcubb...paint it in primary colors and pay the kids with sweets, should result in cheaper phones too yaay!
 
Well, are there American companies like a Foxconn that have the infrastructure to assemble 40-50M iPhones in a quarter?
Infrastructure excuses again. Build the infrastructure: even more jobs for Americans.


Also, people are only comparing the wages of a single Chinese to an American. In terms of iPhone assembly, are American as efficient as the Chinese?
Actually, according to Haffington post, Americans are twice more efficient:

"U.S. factory workers do have one critical advantage over others: They're really productive. In fact, U.S. factory workers produce $73.45 per hour in output, one-third more than German factory workers and twice as much as workers in Taiwan, according to the BLS.

Chinese and U.S. workers differ in another important respect as well. Factory workers in China are more than three times more likely to get killed at work than their American counterparts."
 
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