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Maybe it's just me, but I don't think the OP was trying to get the resolution of Blu-Ray on his iPhone. I think he just wants to rip the media to his phone, presumably to watch it on his phone, which would - DVD, Blu-Ray, or otherwise - require lossy encoding. That's not debatable, so basically it's pointless to point out that there will be quality loss because we already know this - same thing happens with DVDs, and it's not pointless to ask about ripping DVD to the iPhone. I mean really, think about what the OP is asking. He's asking if there are applications that will let him rip his Blu-Ray movies to his iPhone. He shouldn't get flamed for asking a legitimate question.
 
First off it's Blu Ray not Blue Ray. Second why would you want to do this? Is your whole movie library on blu already?? That's the only reason why you would want to do this. Your not going to see any difference in quality in your iPhone. I bought a standalone Blu Ray player to play movies at home on a 60" HDTV to get more of a theater response from my AV equipment....why would you want to watch it on an iPhone

Because I do netflix and have my own personal collection... When I go over by my girlfriends house... I just don't feel like watching her selection of movies... If I can get my movies on my iphone 3g... I can just pop it in her tv and watch what I want... She doesn't have the quality tv that I have so It doesn't need to be Blu Ray quality.
 
I love how, on this forum, any time a thread is started discussing a topic that is new, difficult, or not yet possible to do, everyone tries to tell the OP that it is not necessary, stupid, or unreasonable. What a joke.

The reason is very clear. He has a bluray movie disc (that he presumably does not also have on DVD) and he wants a copy of the movie to watch on his iphone. What more do you need to know? He didn't ask if it was a good idea, and didn't mention once that he's doing it because he thinks he'll achieve improved video or audio clarity or anything of the sort.

The reason why anyone would need this are simple. For high quality TVs, with large screens (60"+), the difference between DVD and bluray is night and day. Therefore people buy blurays instead of DVDs, since the primary use for this optical media is for viewing on their hometheater, where they notice a big difference between the two formats. If these people then want to watch the same movie on their iphone, they have a need to rip the bluray disc. Obviously, in this case, they have no need to rip it in full 1080p resolution, but they still need to rip it. Saying that this is not necessary is just ignorant.

Thanks PJ
 
First off it's Blu Ray not Blue Ray. Second why would you want to do this? Is your whole movie library on blu already?? That's the only reason why you would want to do this. Your not going to see any difference in quality in your iPhone. I bought a standalone Blu Ray player to play movies at home on a 60" HDTV to get more of a theater response from my AV equipment....why would you want to watch it on an iPhone

ohhh i see it's "Blu Ray" now i understand what he's talking about. you're soooo smart :rolleyes: ;) :p :eek:
 
I have a question, and this seemed to be the best thread to post it in.

Let's say I buy a BluRay movie that has the digital copy for iTunes on it (specifically the 3 disc special edition of Wall•E) Can I still put the disc in my laptop (last rev. PowerBook G4) and download the file? I'm not expecting to watch the BluRay copy, I know it's not a BD player. I just want the iTunes copy in, well, iTunes for my iPhone.

My gut feeling is no, but I'm hoping that the file is somehow encoded that standard DVD players can read it.

Anyone have any experience with this?
 
I have a question, and this seemed to be the best thread to post it in.

Let's say I buy a BluRay movie that has the digital copy for iTunes on it (specifically the 3 disc special edition of Wall•E) Can I still put the disc in my laptop (last rev. PowerBook G4) and download the file? I'm not expecting to watch the BluRay copy, I know it's not a BD player. I just want the iTunes copy in, well, iTunes for my iPhone.

My gut feeling is no, but I'm hoping that the file is somehow encoded that standard DVD players can read it.

Anyone have any experience with this?

Your gut is right. I just imported the Digital copy of Wall-E and you can't even access the file itself on the disc. You put it in your drive, double click the screen that comes up, it launches Itunes, you type in the serial number, sign in to your ITunes account and it basically counts it as a gift certificate for the film (but downloads it from the disc not the ITunes store - which is nice since it's over 1GB)

Now if anybody has an idea how to be able to use the digital copy in Final Cut Pro for 'youtube mash video' edits...
 
download a dvd rip and convert it. Make sure you own the blu ray first :cool:

and the idea of digital copies of film works a lot better with blu ray than dvd.
 
I am now wondering if a bluray rip to iphone encode will look better than a dvd rip to iphone encode. My instinct is telling me no. HOwever I'd still like the ability to rip bluray but encode to 720p for computer viewing.
 
First off it's Blu Ray not Blue Ray. Second why would you want to do this? Is your whole movie library on blu already?? That's the only reason why you would want to do this. Your not going to see any difference in quality in your iPhone. I bought a standalone Blu Ray player to play movies at home on a 60" HDTV to get more of a theater response from my AV equipment....why would you want to watch it on an iPhone

If you're going to be pedantic, be correct.

It is properly "Blu-ray Disc". Note the dash, and the lack of capitalization on the word "ray".

Why would someone want to do this? Perhaps because they bought a movie on Blu-ray, and *ALSO* want to watch it on their iPhone? I have most of my standard-definition DVD library ripped so that I can watch it on my computer/iPod/iPhone; and I know that I would like to do the same for my HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc library. (Just purchased my first Blu-ray Disc last week.) Of the 30 high-definition discs I own, only five are duplicates of standard definition discs. And of those five, two were purchased specifically because the standard definition disc was scratched.

So I have 25 movies solely on an HD format.


Now to answer the original poster's question:

MakeMKV can rip a Blu-ray Disc or HD DVD to your hard drive in Mac OS X. You do need a Blu-ray drive, but any external drive will work fine. (Or, if you have a Mac Pro, you can replace the internal DVD±RW drive with a Blu-ray drive.) This is large. One 'small' HD DVD I ripped comes in at 10 GB; a large Blu-ray can be nearly 50 GB. The amount of time this takes is solely dependent on the speed of your Blu-ray drive and hard drive. Takes 15-30 minutes on mine. One minor caveat: Blu-ray Discs that use "BD+" are *NOT* supported on Mac OS X. So older Blu-ray discs should rip fine; but newer ones may have issues. One report says that "Rambo II" works fine; but "Street Kings" does not. The MakeMKV forums have a list of movies that do not work.

Then use HandBrake to convert the ripped .MKV file into something your iPhone can play. The amount of time this takes is dependent on your processor speed. On a PC with a 3.2 GHz Core i7, this took 20 hours to transcode a three hour movie to HandBrake's "AppleTV" preset. I shudder to imagine how long it would take on the single-CPU 1.5 GHz G4 I use to transcode standard definition DVDs.

I am now wondering if a bluray rip to iphone encode will look better than a dvd rip to iphone encode. My instinct is telling me no. HOwever I'd still like the ability to rip bluray but encode to 720p for computer viewing.

Assuming the Blu-ray Disc was made from the same print as the DVD, they should look pretty darned equal. I have seen HD movies that are made from significantly better prints than a DVD, irrespective of the HD nature, which would make for a better picture, though.
 
Then use HandBrake to convert the ripped .MKV file into something your iPhone can play. The amount of time this takes is dependent on your processor speed. On a PC with a 3.2 GHz Core i7, this took 20 hours to transcode a three hour movie to HandBrake's "AppleTV" preset. I shudder to imagine how long it would take on the single-CPU 1.5 GHz G4 I use to transcode standard definition DVDs.

Holy crap. Surely that's almost reaching the point where if you factor in the time to set it all up it'd be cheaper to buy the digital version through iTunes than run the PC to do the conversion?
 
Actually, I find this topic useful. I have season 12 of South Park on BD, and I wouldn't mind ripping them down to play on my iphone. I am not into watching full movies on my iphone, but a South Park episode here and there, I could do.
 
Not to beat a dead horse here - but seriously. People need to read the original post and remove their ego (the world doesn't revolve around you nor is everyone in the same situation as you), infinite wisdom and lack of reading comprehension. We all know how brilliant you are at the iPhone specs and the how and why putting a blu-ray disc on an iPhone is silly.

As a few others have posted - many people now have video collections which have media exclusive to blu-ray. There are several movies I have on one format that I do no have in another. For that matter - I have a few VHS tapes which I still need to convert over to DVD. Some of you who responded first in this thread would reply back "why the hell would you convert a vhs to a dvd - the quality isn't going to be as good as DVD. Just buy the DVD" Clearly it's because the material on the VHS tapes are not available on DVD.

Point is - let's try answering the question actually asked. And if you don't know the answer - ask for clarification before criticizing someone. If you don't - it's you that looks like the "idiot"
 
Because he's spamming his own product maybe? :rolleyes:

Ya think? ;)

MakeMKV can rip a Blu-ray Disc or HD DVD to your hard drive in Mac OS X. You do need a Blu-ray drive, but any external drive will work fine.

One caveat is that it must be able to write something, even if it's a CD.

Then use HandBrake to convert the ripped .MKV file into something your iPhone can play. The amount of time this takes is dependent on your processor speed. On a PC with a 3.2 GHz Core i7, this took 20 hours to transcode a three hour movie to HandBrake's "AppleTV" preset.

There's something peculiar about this. My 3.2 gHz quad core can do a 2 hour movie down to the Apple TV preset in about 2.5 hours, and to the iPhone preset in about 2 hours. A 1080p transcode takes about 5 hours. I'm using the recent HB snapshot.

Assuming the Blu-ray Disc was made from the same print as the DVD, they should look pretty darned equal.

Yes, they're pretty much indistinguishable on a small screen.
 
I am now wondering if a bluray rip to iphone encode will look better than a dvd rip to iphone encode. My instinct is telling me no. HOwever I'd still like the ability to rip bluray but encode to 720p for computer viewing.

Better quality in == better quality out, but as others have said the difference would probably be negligible on such a small screen.

As for my workflow, I still follow the steps I outlined over on the Handbrake forums, creating two output files -- one for AppleTV and the other using the Universal preset.
 
I agree. Some movies offer the ability to download the version in itunes free - my wife bought sex and the city on Blu-Ray and got a code to buy the Itunes version for free. I think all movies should be that way.

I think I've gotten 8 movies that way. I love how they're doing that. The extra 10 dollars is worth it now. I just have Netflix and I queue whatever movies I want then just rip those when I get them. Baddabing Baddaboom. I'm working on ripping Family Guy right now.
 
Not to beat a dead horse here - but seriously. People need to read the original post and remove their ego (the world doesn't revolve around you nor is everyone in the same situation as you), infinite wisdom and lack of reading comprehension. We all know how brilliant you are at the iPhone specs and the how and why putting a blu-ray disc on an iPhone is silly.

As a few others have posted - many people now have video collections which have media exclusive to blu-ray. There are several movies I have on one format that I do no have in another. For that matter - I have a few VHS tapes which I still need to convert over to DVD. Some of you who responded first in this thread would reply back "why the hell would you convert a vhs to a dvd - the quality isn't going to be as good as DVD. Just buy the DVD" Clearly it's because the material on the VHS tapes are not available on DVD.

Point is - let's try answering the question actually asked. And if you don't know the answer - ask for clarification before criticizing someone. If you don't - it's you that looks like the "idiot"

Ah, but you are forgetting that this is Mac Rumors. The greatest priorities in any discussion are:

1. Dismiss requests for any features not yet available through an Apple solution.
2. Bash any technology not available in Apple products.
3. Slam Microsoft
4. Discuss how Apple won't do something until it can be done "right".
5. Identify areas where Apple have done something first, then bash other companies for being followers (often times when Apple wasn't first anyway)
6. Slam the Pre
7. Attack the OP for doing something that might be unethical, take profits from Apple, etc.
8. Praise Steve (possibly discussing the darkness created from having their heads up his backside).
9. Speak of their own needs and hopefully convince the OP that they should just do it that way instead of trying to be an idiot by trying to do things differently.

Only when ALL of these requirements have been met can helpful comments even be considered. Hopefully though, running the gauntlet outlined above will help the OP realize their wrongs and and simply accept the comfort provided by mindless uniformity.

Any questions? :D
 
it seems annoying because I too would like to only buy blu-rays but I am limited because of my need to have the media available across, iphone apple tv, and macs
 
Well, there are some rather stupidly literal people here, who would jump all over this thinking thats what was meant.

I don't know if the person who posted just after you was trying to be funny, it wasn't, or was really being 'stupidly literal' - but the time was great lol :D
 
Thats years and years away. Bluray is currently holding 8% of the market.

I must be all 8%, because since i've had a blu ray player.. I can't STAND to watch dvd's, its only blu ray's from here on out... blu ray's have turned me into an HD elitist.. :D
 
Holy crap. Surely that's almost reaching the point where if you factor in the time to set it all up it'd be cheaper to buy the digital version through iTunes than run the PC to do the conversion?

I'd go a step further and say just search PirateBay for a version that is pre-ripped and formatted for the iPhone. I've found many movies that way. All I have to do is download and install - no ripping or converting or waiting 20 hrs. Now before someone suggests that I'm advocating stealing, I say if you already own the movie on Blu Ray, then downloading it this way is no different than trying to rip the disc you have, other than saving a ton of time and headache.

Also I seriously doubt you'd see any difference sourcing your iPhone movie from a DVD vs. PirateBay vs. Blu Ray. Sourcing from Blu Ray might make it a tad cleaner but you'd never see it at 480x320
 
Now before someone suggests that I'm advocating stealing, I say if you already own the movie on Blu Ray, then downloading it this way is no different than trying to rip the disc you have, other than saving a ton of time and headache.

Ethically - I agree.
Legally - not so much.
 
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