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But the article says that the car maker wants to make it a hardware platform, so it is exactly the same.

He never said that, true, but most posters here do not want 3rd party app store. That implies Apple's way or the hi -way.
Yes, the fact that they think their car is a hardware platform is where there is a difference. It's far, far worse than Apple limiting functionality - this is like Apple telling you that you can only use their software, period. If Apple wants you to have a Starbucks App, they'd make it for you. That's not even close to the app store thing you're bringing up. That's like claiming that people who don't want to drown must want to do die of thirst in the desert.
 
CarPlay ended up being kinda stupid. I never bother to use it in my Audi (has CarPlay).

Don’t miss it at all in my Tesla. Love my Tesla.

Do miss Sirius in the Tesla but I use the iPhone app and Bluetooth and it’s fine.
 
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Question: how do you access all of your media and personal information that is on your phone in your Tesla?

For example, I have a few hundred gigabytes of music, books on tape, etc. on my phone. Can I not listen to any of that if I were to buy a Tesla?

What if I want to call someone or send someone an iMessage? Can I not do that if I were to buy a Tesla?

What if I lend my car to a friend or family member? Will they have access to all my contacts, messages? Will they have access to their own media and personal information from their own phone?

Just wondering how all of this works without CarPlay.
Just like a lot of other cars, they have advanced connectivity options beyond what you used to see with standard bluetooth.
 
Car play is a hassle to use requiring extra steps when entering a vehicle, requires that you have your phone with you at all times, may or may not be a wireless interface, and its interface with car infotainment is haphazard between car manufacturers.

I much prefer a complete and integrated UI for my car. As long as I can access Apple Music, Google home controls and other key services I'm good.

The "Google Built-In" interface for cars comes very close but Google hasn't integrated all the apps into it yet. Hopefully soon. One of my vehicles has it and it is a good start.

If Apple wants to compete here it should offer to embed key Apple apps (Maps, Music, TV+, Home etc..) into auto infotainment systems directly. But I doubt that would ever happen as it goes against Apples strategy.

In the end I think CarPlay, Android Auto are stopgap solutions which will fade in the future as cars develop more integrated and advanced UI's. Apple likely knows this already and hopefully is developing solutions to capitalize on it.
 
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While not having CarPlay isn't ideal the vehicle is just fine without it. I love CarPlay but it isn't a 'die on the hill' tech.
 
Car play is a hassle to use requiring extra steps when entering a vehicle, requires that you have your phone with you at all times, may or may not be a wireless interface, and its interface with car infotainment is haphazard between car manufacturers.

I much prefer a complete and integrated and UI for my car. As long as I can access Apple Music, Google home controls and other key services I'm good.

The "Google Built-In" interface for cars comes very close but Google hasn't integrated all the apps into it yet. Hopefully soon. One of my vehicles has it and it is a good start.

If Apple wants to compete here it should offer to embed key Apple apps (Maps, Music, TV+, Home etc..) into auto infotainment systems directly. But I doubt that would ever happen as it goes against Apples strategy.
Compete? Apple gains nothing by embedding apps. Nobody does unless they're looking to start charging a subscription or they built the OS. Google is selling infotainment software, similar to what Microsoft used to do. Apple is not going to start selling iOS in Car.

I jump in my car, my phone is connecting as the car is turning on, and CarPlay is up and running as I pull out of the driveway. I jump in a car at a rental agency, I plug in and setup CarPlay, then that car behaves mostly the same as what I have at home for however long I'm renting it. I get in my wife's car, there's my same interface with me yet again. Cars are a hell of a lot more like video game consoles than smartphones, and when a new generation comes along you can expect the old to start lacking support.
 
Just like a lot of other cars, they have advanced connectivity options beyond what you used to see with standard bluetooth.

So I can still access all the content on my phone, it will just be a different user interface?

And if someone else drives the car, they can’t access my content, but they can access their own content?

I mean if that is the case, I am not really sure I care one way or another…
 
I've said it from the start. It'll never happen. Apple CarPlay should focus on Infotainment and leave the rest to the manufacturer. I don't want Apple screwing with my car controls, plus imagine how boring it would be to see the same dash in every car you use. No, thank you.

Moreover, it would never work as each and every car made is unique. So if it were to succeed, we would have standardisation across all manufacturers. Again boring.

I love CarPlay, and I too would not buy a car that doesn't feature it now. (I've been using wireless CarPlay since 2017), but there is zero chance I would want to buy into a manufacturer that has its onboard car functions dictated by Apple.

On a final point regarding privacy. Does it bother some people that much that manufacturers collect telemetry data to make their cars more reliable, and to notify them when servicing and maintenance is required?
 
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Actually, to be competitive on the market, all modern cars should offer users CarPlay, Google Auto and car’s own infotainment system. Imagine somebody renting a car for a day and just wanting to use the system they are used to and comfortable with. I would not like to learn a particular car maker’s solution when I can just plug my phone in and go. Otherwise they will just alienate themselves from potential users/customers, IMO.
 
I keep seeing this. No. No they don’t but thanks for playing
Ok keep dreaming. They will lull users into this and then charge once their financials aren't looking great. You can stick your head in the sand and think they won't, but time and time again has proven these car companies want to be more than just car sellers.
 
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Car play is important to me, as some one who travels a lot. Most of the rental cars have car play. It’s seamless to go from my car to another one with same interface, and not figure out new systems or add my phone to rental car Bluetooth setup.
 
So I can still access all the content on my phone, it will just be a different user interface?

And if someone else drives the car, they can’t access my content, but they can access their own content?

I mean if that is the case, I am not really sure I care one way or another…
Mostly, yes. You're not going to be able to use your Apple Maps, though.
 
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The irony of this is that if enough carmakers were to decide the same, it would push Apple to bypass them by producing their own car and crushing them, so essentially they would be the makers of their own undoing.
 


Electric automaker Rivian has no plans to introduce support for Apple CarPlay in its vehicles, founder and CEO RJ Scaringe says.

Next-Generation-CarPlay-Design-WWDC-2024-7.jpeg

The company's stance was explained in a recent interview with The Verge's Nilay Patel on the "Decoder" podcast. Scaringe emphasized that Rivian's desire to create a seamless and well-integrated digital experience is the primary reason for not adopting CarPlay. He likened the decision to Apple choosing to develop iOS and macOS instead of using Microsoft's Windows operating system, stating, "There is a reason that ironically is very consistent with Apple ethos for us to want to control the ecosystem."

Apple CarPlay was introduced in 2014 and allows iPhone users to mirror some of their phone's features on a car's infotainment system, providing access to Siri, navigation, and some apps in a familiar interface. It has become a popular feature in many vehicles, with a significant number of consumers considering it a critical factor in purchasing decisions.

Rivian's rejection of CarPlay stems from a desire to maintain control over the entire user experience within its vehicles. Scaringe highlighted that CarPlay's inability to "leverage other parts of the vehicle experience" would necessitate users to exit the app for certain functions, such as opening the front trunk. He explained, "We have taken the view of the digital experience in the vehicle wants to feel consistent and holistically harmonious across every touchpoint."

The decision to exclude CarPlay is seen as part of Rivian's broader strategy to control the "digital real estate" within its vehicles. Scaringe stated, "We just believe that it is such an important piece of real estate, the digital ecosystem, that it was something we want to retain."

He also acknowledged customer feedback regarding the current shortcomings in Rivian's mapping and navigation systems, an area where CarPlay excels. He noted that Rivian is actively working on improvements, facilitated by the company's acquisition of route planning app maker Iternio.

Despite not supporting CarPlay, Rivian plans to incorporate many of its desirable features on an "à la carte basis." The company has already integrated Apple Music with Spatial Audio support. Scaringe expressed his admiration for Apple's products and reiterated the strong relationship between the two companies. However, he emphasized the importance of consistency and control in delivering a "pure product experience" for Rivian customers.

The absence of CarPlay in Rivian's vehicles is not unique in the automotive industry. Tesla has never adopted the feature, and General Motors recently decided to drop support for CarPlay and Android Auto in its future electric vehicle models. In contrast, luxury brands like Porsche and Aston Martin are set to adopt the next-generation CarPlay experience.

Article Link: Rivian CEO Explains Why Apple CarPlay Won't Come to Its Vehicles
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Electric automaker Rivian has no plans to introduce support for Apple CarPlay in its vehicles, founder and CEO RJ Scaringe says.

Next-Generation-CarPlay-Design-WWDC-2024-7.jpeg

The company's stance was explained in a recent interview with The Verge's Nilay Patel on the "Decoder" podcast. Scaringe emphasized that Rivian's desire to create a seamless and well-integrated digital experience is the primary reason for not adopting CarPlay. He likened the decision to Apple choosing to develop iOS and macOS instead of using Microsoft's Windows operating system, stating, "There is a reason that ironically is very consistent with Apple ethos for us to want to control the ecosystem."

Apple CarPlay was introduced in 2014 and allows iPhone users to mirror some of their phone's features on a car's infotainment system, providing access to Siri, navigation, and some apps in a familiar interface. It has become a popular feature in many vehicles, with a significant number of consumers considering it a critical factor in purchasing decisions.

Rivian's rejection of CarPlay stems from a desire to maintain control over the entire user experience within its vehicles. Scaringe highlighted that CarPlay's inability to "leverage other parts of the vehicle experience" would necessitate users to exit the app for certain functions, such as opening the front trunk. He explained, "We have taken the view of the digital experience in the vehicle wants to feel consistent and holistically harmonious across every touchpoint."

The decision to exclude CarPlay is seen as part of Rivian's broader strategy to control the "digital real estate" within its vehicles. Scaringe stated, "We just believe that it is such an important piece of real estate, the digital ecosystem, that it was something we want to retain."

He also acknowledged customer feedback regarding the current shortcomings in Rivian's mapping and navigation systems, an area where CarPlay excels. He noted that Rivian is actively working on improvements, facilitated by the company's acquisition of route planning app maker Iternio.

Despite not supporting CarPlay, Rivian plans to incorporate many of its desirable features on an "à la carte basis." The company has already integrated Apple Music with Spatial Audio support. Scaringe expressed his admiration for Apple's products and reiterated the strong relationship between the two companies. However, he emphasized the importance of consistency and control in delivering a "pure product experience" for Rivian customers.

The absence of CarPlay in Rivian's vehicles is not unique in the automotive industry. Tesla has never adopted the feature, and General Motors recently decided to drop support for CarPlay and Android Auto in its future electric vehicle models. In contrast, luxury brands like Porsche and Aston Martin are set to adopt the next-generation CarPlay experience.

Article Link: Rivian CEO Explains Why Apple CarPlay Won't Come to Its Vehicles
Where is the EU the fine for these companies ? Hahahaha double standard ! Hate this if I want to use CarPlay I should be able to.
 
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Does it bother some people that much that manufacturers collect telemetry data to make their cars more reliable, and to notify them when servicing and maintenance is required?
It is never going to stop there. One moment it is telemetry, next the dashboard is showing you cheeseburgers and telling you to pull in to McDonalds.
 
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