It's not true, it's an exaggeration. If the iPhone only allowed Apple developed apps and services, Apple wouldn't have made it past the iPhone 3G. Apple creates walled gardens, this is more like a prison.
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Rivian CEO Explains Why Apple CarPlay Won't Come to Its Vehicles
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You know that's just to show off every possibility, right? Frankly, if all of that was just a Mercedes UI spread across all of those screens, I don't see how it would be any better...and that does exist.When I see things like this from Apple, I worry. I would balk at a car that looked this way! But agree with what you are saying.
Do you see the flaw in your argument? How is that any different from what Apple is doing with iOS and MacOS?
I've been giving telemetry to BMW since 2013. The only things they have ever messaged me about is a service notification or recall.
The worst offenders are CarPlay apps. Namely, Google and Waze.
I think the key here is that Apple has APIs which enable car manufacturers to account for that customization themselves.
And this would be the reason why I will never own a Rivan vehicle. If the vehicle does not have CarPlay, then I will not purchase the vehicle. Of course people will figure out how to install CarPlay into the vehicle. They could adopt the new CarPlay, but they just do not care about their customers that much.
Electric automaker Rivian has no plans to introduce support for Apple CarPlay in its vehicles, founder and CEO RJ Scaringe says.
The company's stance was explained in a recent interview with The Verge's Nilay Patel on the "Decoder" podcast. Scaringe emphasized that Rivian's desire to create a seamless and well-integrated digital experience is the primary reason for not adopting CarPlay. He likened the decision to Apple choosing to develop iOS and macOS instead of using Microsoft's Windows operating system, stating, "There is a reason that ironically is very consistent with Apple ethos for us to want to control the ecosystem."
Apple CarPlay was introduced in 2014 and allows iPhone users to mirror some of their phone's features on a car's infotainment system, providing access to Siri, navigation, and some apps in a familiar interface. It has become a popular feature in many vehicles, with a significant number of consumers considering it a critical factor in purchasing decisions.
Rivian's rejection of CarPlay stems from a desire to maintain control over the entire user experience within its vehicles. Scaringe highlighted that CarPlay's inability to "leverage other parts of the vehicle experience" would necessitate users to exit the app for certain functions, such as opening the front trunk. He explained, "We have taken the view of the digital experience in the vehicle wants to feel consistent and holistically harmonious across every touchpoint."
The decision to exclude CarPlay is seen as part of Rivian's broader strategy to control the "digital real estate" within its vehicles. Scaringe stated, "We just believe that it is such an important piece of real estate, the digital ecosystem, that it was something we want to retain."
He also acknowledged customer feedback regarding the current shortcomings in Rivian's mapping and navigation systems, an area where CarPlay excels. He noted that Rivian is actively working on improvements, facilitated by the company's acquisition of route planning app maker Iternio.
Despite not supporting CarPlay, Rivian plans to incorporate many of its desirable features on an "à la carte basis." The company has already integrated Apple Music with Spatial Audio support. Scaringe expressed his admiration for Apple's products and reiterated the strong relationship between the two companies. However, he emphasized the importance of consistency and control in delivering a "pure product experience" for Rivian customers.
The absence of CarPlay in Rivian's vehicles is not unique in the automotive industry. Tesla has never adopted the feature, and General Motors recently decided to drop support for CarPlay and Android Auto in its future electric vehicle models. In contrast, luxury brands like Porsche and Aston Martin are set to adopt the next-generation CarPlay experience.
Article Link: Rivian CEO Explains Why Apple CarPlay Won't Come to Its Vehicles
Why in world would anyone use either Google Maps or Waze (owned by Google). Google is the biggest internet stalker.
I appreciate his purity of vision, but the reality is that people want this, and simply providing it as an option leaves it up to the user about whether they use it or not.
You car came with a couple of years of the connected services. After that it will cost you to have music streaming, navigation, etc., things which CarPlay and AndroidAuto would provide from your phone at no extra costs. That and selling your data is the reason why some manufacturers wont allow CP or AA.
Audi & Co tried what and failed? I believe Audi was one of the first car companies to adopt Android Auto and started to integrate CarPlay shortly after. With or without Android Auto and CarPlay, overall Audi sales have been quite good.
And the worst part of the Tesla system is that it utilizes Google Maps as the base map. Always decades out of date and barely updated.
It would be better if they did not use Google Maps, it is the absolute worst of the options.
They do in the new CarPlay. They are just too lazy to invest the time it takes to integrate.
Sure it’s an exaggeration, but it’s not that outlandish. The automakers just need to stay out of the way on this one. People want CarPlay. I would specifically not buy a car if it didn’t have it.
I'm totally with you. If it doesn't have CarPlay it doesn't even exist. What I meant was an exaggeration was people saying that Apple is the same way as this, not allowing you to have what you want. Apple is definitely further towards this than other options, but this should probably show people the opposite of what they're seeing. This isn't hypocrisy, it's an example of what is tolerable and what is not.
That's one way to look at it. My way to look at it: Apple Music is not free either. In fact costs more than SiriusXM. As for navigation, Volvo doesn't charge for it, nor do they charge for updates.
Let me get this straight, the EU is going after Apple to open its system to third-party apps. They need to go after the electronic car industry too in my opinion. 😉
Electric automaker Rivian has no plans to introduce support for Apple CarPlay in its vehicles, founder and CEO RJ Scaringe says.
The company's stance was explained in a recent interview with The Verge's Nilay Patel on the "Decoder" podcast. Scaringe emphasized that Rivian's desire to create a seamless and well-integrated digital experience is the primary reason for not adopting CarPlay. He likened the decision to Apple choosing to develop iOS and macOS instead of using Microsoft's Windows operating system, stating, "There is a reason that ironically is very consistent with Apple ethos for us to want to control the ecosystem."
Apple CarPlay was introduced in 2014 and allows iPhone users to mirror some of their phone's features on a car's infotainment system, providing access to Siri, navigation, and some apps in a familiar interface. It has become a popular feature in many vehicles, with a significant number of consumers considering it a critical factor in purchasing decisions.
Rivian's rejection of CarPlay stems from a desire to maintain control over the entire user experience within its vehicles. Scaringe highlighted that CarPlay's inability to "leverage other parts of the vehicle experience" would necessitate users to exit the app for certain functions, such as opening the front trunk. He explained, "We have taken the view of the digital experience in the vehicle wants to feel consistent and holistically harmonious across every touchpoint."
The decision to exclude CarPlay is seen as part of Rivian's broader strategy to control the "digital real estate" within its vehicles. Scaringe stated, "We just believe that it is such an important piece of real estate, the digital ecosystem, that it was something we want to retain."
He also acknowledged customer feedback regarding the current shortcomings in Rivian's mapping and navigation systems, an area where CarPlay excels. He noted that Rivian is actively working on improvements, facilitated by the company's acquisition of route planning app maker Iternio.
Despite not supporting CarPlay, Rivian plans to incorporate many of its desirable features on an "à la carte basis." The company has already integrated Apple Music with Spatial Audio support. Scaringe expressed his admiration for Apple's products and reiterated the strong relationship between the two companies. However, he emphasized the importance of consistency and control in delivering a "pure product experience" for Rivian customers.
The absence of CarPlay in Rivian's vehicles is not unique in the automotive industry. Tesla has never adopted the feature, and General Motors recently decided to drop support for CarPlay and Android Auto in its future electric vehicle models. In contrast, luxury brands like Porsche and Aston Martin are set to adopt the next-generation CarPlay experience.
Article Link: Rivian CEO Explains Why Apple CarPlay Won't Come to Its Vehicles
What is worst is taking you eyes off the road to find the correct button or knob to adjust something. Mostly though once you set it, you can forget it as most of the systems, like your house, should have a set temperature that will run what is needed.
While you are correct that I pay for AppleMusic as part of my phone, there is no additional cost to using it in my Mazda.
All these Google things your Volvo came with will be an additional charge in your Volvo after four years. Even if Volvo has an Apple Music app, it will cost you extra to use in your Volvo while CarPlay enabled cars do not have an additional cost to use the data services.
Volvo will charge you for your connected services after four years.
SiriusXM costs $16.98 a month...and that's for very poor quality audio that is broadcast, not streamed. Apple One costs close to that, giving you Apple Music, Apple TV+, storage, Apple Arcade, etc.
Volvo charges $400 for 4 years of Volvo On Call, required for a ton of functionality including remote start.
No CarPlay no buy. Simple.
I have used so many bad info-systems and bad sat nav systems that I just would not consider buying a car that doesn't support CarPlay. Actually my next car will need to have the new full next-gen CarPlay for me to even consider it an option.
I have used so many bad info-systems and bad sat nav systems that I just would not consider buying a car that doesn't support CarPlay. Actually my next car will need to have the new full next-gen CarPlay for me to even consider it an option.