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They're two different things. I just picked up an iPad Air 2 the other day and will get the MacBook on April 10. Best of both worlds. :p
 
You could view the rMB as the 12" IPad Pro everyone has been wanting for the past year. It's small, light, thin, and runs OS X. What more did people want from an iPad Pro?

On the rMB, maybe a 180 degree hinge. I have a Clamcase Pro for my rMini and fold the keyboard back quite a bit.
 
Anandtech has an in-depth review of the Yoga Pro 3 convertible notebook:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9061/lenovo-yoga-3-pro-review

It basically has the same insides as the new MB and the thing is hardly blazing fast, the most limiting factor being the TDP of 4,5 Watts, and seeing as the Yoga isn't fan-less as the Intel Core-M architecture is capable of by design, the new MB is not going to be a speed monster either, as it has no active cooling.
Sure, the screen on the Yoga has a higher resolution, but I doubt that the MB will profit from it's slightly lower res all that much performance-wise.

If I had the 15" rMBP, even the 2012 one, I would probably stick to it for now.
I currently use a 13" rMPB from late 2013 and apart from it being slightly on the hefty side comparing to the 11" MBA I had, the screen and usefulness is well beyond that of the MB or any iPad. I hardly use the iPad anymore as I'm just not that keen on holding it in the air as I lie down and prefer to have the computer lie on my lap.

I think of the MB as a completely new product, as the MBA was back in the day. It's even more portable, it has fantastic battery life and it's probably a glimpse of what is to come - iOS and OS X synergy in one device. As with the MBA, it has its limitations that might put some people off, and if I had money to burn I'd get one but not as a main device and definitely not alongside an iPad - this negates the need for an iPad IMHO.
 
", I also ran the benchmarks on my Core i7-860 based Desktop (running Chrome, as were the Yogas) and it is pretty clear just how far we have come. The i7-860 is a four core, eight thread 45 nm processor with a 2.8 GHz base clock and 3.46 GHz boost, all in a 95 watt TDP. It was launched in late 2009. Five years later, we have higher performance in a 4.5 watt TDP for many tasks. It really is staggering."

So it is a very capable cpu for basic stuff
 
i think the retina macbook is too overpriced...

at this point an iPad is better for the kind of work you can use the rMB i think... maybe an iPad Pro 12 with a keyboard accessory made by apple directly....

I'd rather use a laptop then an iPad for my work. The iPad cannot adequately handle remote desktops, working with large spreadsheets, running windows, etc.
 
Any more opinions on this?

I'm torn between an iPad Air 3 or the new MacBook.

I don't see how you can be torn. The two devices are completely different. The most glaring difference is the operating system. The laptop has a full desktop operating system. The iPad has a mobile operating system.

Even if you want to go to basics: The iPad can run about x10 more apps than the MacBook. You can't play 99% of the games (Clash of Clans, etc) or run 99% of the apps available for iPhone/iPad on a MacBook.

These two devices are 100% completely different. It comes down to what you intend to use the device for. However, there is no real "comparing" the two since they are so vastly different. It's like comparing a motorcycle to a car.
 
I don't see how you can be torn. The two devices are completely different. The most glaring difference is the operating system. The laptop has a full desktop operating system. The iPad has a mobile operating system.

Even if you want to go to basics: The iPad can run about x10 more apps than the MacBook. You can't play 99% of the games (Clash of Clans, etc) or run 99% of the apps available for iPhone/iPad on a MacBook.

These two devices are 100% completely different. It comes down to what you intend to use the device for. However, there is no real "comparing" the two since they are so vastly different. It's like comparing a motorcycle to a car.

I disagree.

Both can serve as a lightweight in-between device for Office, writing, and web browsing. One is a tablet, one is a laptop. They may be different devices, but they can be used for many of the same things. It isn't as cut and dry as you are insinuating.
 
I disagree.

Both can serve as a lightweight in-between device for Office, writing, and web browsing. One is a tablet, one is a laptop. They may be different devices, but they can be used for many of the same things. It isn't as cut and dry as you are insinuating.

Yeah, but it just seems pointless to own a 2nd MacBook when you could be having the tablet form factor for when you aren't able to use your 15" rMBP.
 
Yeah, but it just seems pointless to own a 2nd MacBook when you could be having the tablet form factor for when you aren't able to use your 15" rMBP.

That's one point, but then there are times when iOS functionality or touch input is frustrating.

Navigating certain web apps are tedious on the iPad and some things iOS just can't do. But then you have the tablet form factor and iOS apps....
 
That's one point, but then there are times when iOS functionality or touch input is frustrating.

Navigating certain web apps are tedious on the iPad and some things iOS just can't do. But then you have the tablet form factor and iOS apps....

Well I use my Mac as my workhorse, and use it in most situations. I just can't imagine a situation where you'd pull out your 12" rMB instead of the 15" rMBP. I would think you would reach for the iPad in those situations.
 
Well I use my Mac as my workhorse, and use it in most situations. I just can't imagine a situation where you'd pull out your 12" rMB instead of the 15" rMBP. I would think you would reach for the iPad in those situations.

I tried going to business meetings with an iPad instead of a computer. For me, it was a big fail. The rMB would be a portable solution to the iPad's limitations in that context, at a reduction of almost half the weight and probably zero functionality compared to my 13" rMBA. YMMV.
 
The iPad and the rMB are for two different types of users. Those wanting a full desktop OS will want to go for the rMB, where as those that basically only need a device for sofa browsing may be better with the even lighter iPad.

I personally plan on getting a rMB for my main daily computing needs on the move, but I'll also keep my iPad Mini till the iPad Air 3 (or whatever it will be called) is released. Then I plan on replacing it. So hopefully by the end of the year I will have both the 12" rMB and a 9.7" iPad.
 
They are totally different products.
rMB is more powerful than the MBA, so i don't see the rMB as an alternative to an iPad anymore than the MBA was.

In a very simple world i see the MBA as irrelevant and pointless.
But the great thing about a range is you pick the model what works for you in the same way you pick the RAM and PROC you want.

You have that backwards. The retina macbook is significantly less powerful than the macbook air, by about 30%.
 
You have that backwards. The retina macbook is significantly less powerful than the macbook air, by about 30%.

No, look at the CPU spec vs the 2014 models. I've posted the links before.
MBA owners seem to have a real issue with rMB its like a religion. :)
 
I would sell my iPad but its great for quick tasks on a bigger screen than a phone. Also... Clash Of Clans. :D Social networking too, quick searches... i could go on.

You need both. I mean all three. iPad, Mac and phone. Just make sure your main machine has decent power. Not this MacBook unless its an addition to something with ports and power.
 
rMacbook.. or Ipad?

One is a laptop, the other a tablet. Tablets are restrictive. So, retina MacBook.
 
I would sell my iPad but its great for quick tasks on a bigger screen than a phone. Also... Clash Of Clans. :D Social networking too, quick searches... i could go on.

You need both. I mean all three. iPad, Mac and phone. Just make sure your main machine has decent power. Not this MacBook unless its an addition to something with ports and power.

The new MacBook does have decent power, and not everyone needs those ports.
 
The new MacBook does have decent power, and not everyone needs those ports.

Where the power issue comes into play is the Core M is unable to maintain sustained performance like cooled i5's and i7's can. However, that's not necessarily a bad thing. Most tasks only need "burst" processing and the Core M is fantastic at "revving up quickly" so to speak. Where you'd really feel Core M limitations is when doing long video encoding projects, long projects with Handbrake, or batch processing 100s of RAWs. This may not be the system for you, but then again, if you can leave it alone is should accomplish those tasks, just in more time than it'd take a rMBP or iMac.
 
Sure it does. We all wanted ports till Apple said you don't. Seriously... Name another machine with none.

I must have missed the place where the spec sheet said "none" for ports.

Everyone wanted an optical disk back in 2008. Now...not so much. I'm told I'm a dinosaur for wanting computer programs, video and music on optical disks.
 
i think the retina macbook is too overpriced...

at this point an iPad is better for the kind of work you can use the rMB i think... maybe an iPad Pro 12 with a keyboard accessory made by apple directly....

Huh? You know how long it'd take to open an excel spreadsheet on the iPad, modify 10-15 cells, save it, then attach it to an email and reply with a paragraph of text? About 20x longer than if you had a keyboard\track pad and full version of Excel.... to those who are saying it's just a glorified iPad I'm really in awe that you think this way. iOS vs Mac OS is like a bicycle vs a car.
 
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