rMB 12" vs rMBP 13"

BenTrovato said:
To me I don't know how I could compare these two systems. One is a real laptop, one is a keyboard with a screen. The whole point of a laptop is that it has a physical keyboard with external ports. If I have no use for ports I would rather have a tablet than a rMB.
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The key word in your post is "I." Beyond the fact that you're entitled to your own opinion, I'm not aware that the 11th commandment on the tablets was that a laptop has to have a physical keyboard with external ports. Even if we accept your opinion that this is IMMVTABLE TRVTH, the rMB seems to satisfy both counts. What we come down to is that you'd rather have a tablet than an rMB - that's fine. There's plenty of choice in the product line.
 
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newellj said:
The key word in your post is "I." Beyond the fact that you're entitled to your own opinion, I'm not aware that the 11th commandment on the tablets was that a laptop has to have a physical keyboard with external ports. Even if we accept your opinion that this is IMMVTABLE TRVTH, the rMB seems to satisfy both counts. What we come down to is that you'd rather have a table than an rMB - that's fine. There's plenty of choice in the product line.
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I'd rather have a tablet than a rMB, not a table. I don't know why tables are part of this discussion or whatever "IMMVTABLE TRVTH" is.

I'm saying at the price points.. If I'm buying a physical keyboard, I'd rather have ports (rMBP) over no ports (rMB). If I don't need ports I'd rather have a tablet than a rMB.. again at the price points. If price is of no consideration, the rMB is a good looking piece of technology.
 
BenTrovato said:
If I'm buying a physical keyboard, I'd rather have ports (rMBP) over no ports (rMB).
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What exactly do "ports" have to do with physical keyboard? Your linkage of the two makes no sense.

Or you don't understand how someone may prefer a ultraportable laptop with a keyboard/trackpad running full OS, while not caring about lack of "ports"?
 
ctyrider said:
What exactly do "ports" have to do with physical keyboard? Your linkage of the two makes no sense.

Or you don't understand how someone may prefer a ultraportable laptop with a keyboard/trackpad running full OS, while not caring about lack of "ports"?
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I never even use the ports I have aside from the occasional device charging.
 
So much for the netbook comparisons. The core m is twice as fast as Hp stream on sustained workloads according to those reviews.
 
The thing I hated most about my rmbp was plugging and unplugging all the cables. With the rmb, I'm looking forward to having all the cables hidden with a hub by the power supply, and only one cable to the machine on the desk.
 
Yes this is what I look forward to as well. I don't even want the options to plug stuff in. If I need to I can plug crap into my windows desktop which is hidden in a media cabinet and remote in. I'm tired of wires on my desk.
 
BenTrovato said:
Most tasks on the desktop can be undertaken without any sign of slowdown; 1080p videos play with a hitch (including when outputted to a larger monitor or TV),
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What does that mean? With a hitch? The sentence is written like it's no problem but as far as I know "with a hitch" is "with some problems". I could be mistaken; I'm swedish.

BenTrovato said:
To me I don't know how I could compare these two systems. One is a real laptop, one is a keyboard with a screen. The whole point of a laptop is that it has a physical keyboard with external ports. If I have no use for ports I would rather have a tablet than a rMB.
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And I wouldn't. :) I hate my iPad for everything except maybe games. I'd sell it if my girlfriend wouldn't use it every day. It's good for movies but I really can't hold it when I watch movies in bed. Sure, I can buy some kind of stand but that will probably need a smoother surface than a bed sheet.
 
danielwerner said:
What does that mean? With a hitch? The sentence is written like it's no problem but as far as I know "with a hitch" is "with some problems". I could be mistaken; I'm swedish.


And I wouldn't. :) I hate my iPad for everything except maybe games. I'd sell it if my girlfriend wouldn't use it every day. It's good for movies but I really can't hold it when I watch movies in bed. Sure, I can buy some kind of stand but that will probably need a smoother surface than a bed sheet.
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To me, hitches sound like glitches (I.e. frame skips). Definitely not problem free if you expect video to not skip while watching it.

You could always get a lamp stand style ipad holder, but that depends on how badly you want something else to hold your iPad. I get this, because staring at my rib cage while my thumbs do all the typing is not a long term positive for my back and neck vertebrae. :)
 
ctyrider said:
Here's a good review of Yoga 3 that just came out. Yoga 3 uses the same Core M CPU as the 12" rMB:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9061/lenovo-yoga-3-pro-review/4

The conclusions are very encouraging:
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Ulenspiegel said:
Review by Techradar of Lenovo Yoga 3 Pro (http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc...d-netbooks/lenovo-yoga-3-pro-1268489/review):



I don't think it is/would be easy to get an objective, clear picture of the real perfomance.
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Ok so far 2 review has been posted in this thread. I need to point out that the techradar review is using the older core m cpu i.e. 5y70, whereas the anandtech review is using the new core m cpu i.e. 5y71.

The new macbook will most likely use the new cpu based on the clock speed. Therefore please disregard the techradar review when discussing about the cpu performance of the new macbook.
 
danielwerner said:
That sounds terrible, if it's true. Can't the new rMB even play 1080p-video without issues? :eek:
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Of course it will be able to.

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BenTrovato said:
I'd rather have a tablet than a rMB, not a table. I don't know why tables are part of this discussion or whatever "IMMVTABLE TRVTH" is.

I'm saying at the price points.. If I'm buying a physical keyboard, I'd rather have ports (rMBP) over no ports (rMB). If I don't need ports I'd rather have a tablet than a rMB.. again at the price points. If price is of no consideration, the rMB is a good looking piece of technology.
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Some of us don't need those ports. I know I'll be using the rMB as a real laptop.
 
It all boils down to needs. If you are a programmer and just need to run Xcode/visual studio and build on your farm at home or work, then anything with wifi will work. That is as professional as any other use. I currently work on AAA games and I use a 11" 2014 base air.

As to netbook vs notebook. hp mini 311 netbook ran modern warfare and dow2 and outperformed many laptops contemporary at the time so those kind of labels mean nothing. And if You really miss ports a 2001 compaq 700 has a floppy drive and 56k modem. You know just in case you need them.
 
danielwerner said:
Yeah I know. But there should be some reviews with the same, or close to the same, CPU and graphics card.

A laptop must be able to handle at least 1080p today, right?
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I hope so, man. :)

If Apple says 9 hours of video playback, they must've run a few tests to make sure that claim wasn't bogus. I hope so anyway. :)
 
danielwerner said:
That sounds terrible, if it's true. Can't the new rMB even play 1080p-video without issues? :eek:
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It will play 1080p video without issues - see the above quote i referenced from TechRadar report (and that's based on an slower Core M than what rMB will ship with).
 
ctyrider said:
if he's willing to deal with a significantly heavier/bulkier machine.
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We are literally talking about a pound or so more and an extra inch for a far superior machine (HARDLY significant). IMO (which i know isn't really asked for) i would just MAX out one of the new 13's and hang with it for the next 5 years and let all this marketing bs evolution play itself out.

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danielwerner said:
A laptop must be able to handle at least 1080p today, right?
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You'd think all laptops these days would come standard with a better front facing camera also........
 
danielwerner said:
I really don't know which one to choose.

I have a shift job as a control room engineer, so I want something to use on those long nights.

My primary uses are surfing the web, 1080p-movies on VLC and netflix, spotify, web designing (including some lighter photoshop use), and some lighter non-3D gaming.

I currently use a 2012 rMBP 15 inch. I love the portability of the new Macbook, but fear the processor and graphics card will be too slow when I'm used to the 15". On the other hand, I fear that a 13" rMBP will be a bit too heavy and a unnecessary purchase since the leap from 15" rMBP to 13" isn't worth 1300 bucks.

Also, when I bought my rMBP in 2012 there was a huge problem with clouding of the screens. Apparently some got displays from Samsung (no problem, as with mine) and some from LG (problems with clouding). Is this still an issue? In that case I would rather go with the new macbook since I understand that's a whole new display.

What do you think? :)
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Why would you pay the same price for a Macbook with a smaller display, less powerful CPU/GPU and only one port? Tack on another $70 just to be able to upload photos or anything meaningful. If the new Macbook were like $999, then it would be up for discussion but at the same price? The rMBP 13 is the obvious answer.
 
dexterbell said:
Why would you pay the same price for a Macbook with a smaller display, less powerful CPU/GPU and only one port? Tack on another $70 just to be able to upload photos or anything meaningful. If the new Macbook were like $999, then it would be up for discussion but at the same price? The rMBP 13 is the obvious answer.
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Applying that same logic:

why would someone pay more for a macbook pro which is less powerful than a windows laptop?

why would someone pay more for a laptop which is less powerful than a desktop?

:rolleyes:

so the answer should be a desktop not a rmbp :D
 
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Fthree said:
We are literally talking about a pound or so more and an extra inch for a far superior machine (HARDLY significant). IMO (which i know isn't really asked for) i would just MAX out one of the new 13's and hang with it for the next 5 years and let all this marketing bs evolution play itself out.
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rMBP is 3.5lbs vs rMB 2lbs - that's almost double the weight, and yes it is VERY significant for those of us who prioritize portability.

rMBP may be a superior machine to you, but don't assume everyone has the same needs and priorities.
 
dexterbell said:
Why would you pay the same price for a Macbook with a smaller display, less powerful CPU/GPU and only one port? Tack on another $70 just to be able to upload photos or anything meaningful. If the new Macbook were like $999, then it would be up for discussion but at the same price? The rMBP 13 is the obvious answer.
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Why would I sell my 13" rMBP and buy the 12" rMB? Because it's the better machine for me.
 
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