With the dGPU of course. You get the 750m for free if you configure the base model to the same spec as the high end 15" rMBP.
So I would only go for the Iris Pro only 15" rMBP if the 2.0 ghz, 8gb and 256 gb configuration is good enough for you.
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rMBP 15, Iris Pro, Nvidia or Wait?!
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With the dGPU of course. You get the 750m for free if you configure the base model to the same spec as the high end 15" rMBP.
So I would only go for the Iris Pro only 15" rMBP if the 2.0 ghz, 8gb and 256 gb configuration is good enough for you.
I am a gamer and went with the iris pro and have zero regrets.
If you go to notebookcheck.net and analyze the gaming benchmarks between the two it should be clear to you if it's worth the extra money.
Examples: Metro last light 18 fps vs 20 fps. DOTA2 34 fps vs 41 fps
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html
For me it would be nearly $700 more for the 750m. You could buy a second laptop with that much money.
If you go to notebookcheck.net and analyze the gaming benchmarks between the two it should be clear to you if it's worth the extra money.
Examples: Metro last light 18 fps vs 20 fps. DOTA2 34 fps vs 41 fps
http://www.notebookcheck.net/Computer-Games-on-Laptop-Graphic-Cards.13849.0.html
For me it would be nearly $700 more for the 750m. You could buy a second laptop with that much money.
augustya
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I have read somewhere that Broadwell chips can be out Q1 of 2014.
So but what is your guess, when will the Broadwell chips be included in the rMBP ?
Barney63
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Where have you read that?
I think the Broadwell rMBPs will be early 2015.
They are only due to be released in Q3 2014
Barney
augustya
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Ok if it is Q4 of 2014 I think it will not be included in the rMBP till the fall of 2015 i.e Sept-2015
simon48
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rMBP 15, Iris Pro, Nvidia or Wait?!
No, Apple will put them in an update within a few months of them being released.
Why would Apple wait 10 months to use new CPUs? By the time they used them Skylake could be out and they'd be outdated.
No, Apple will put them in an update within a few months of them being released.
Why would Apple wait 10 months to use new CPUs? By the time they used them Skylake could be out and they'd be outdated.
Vanilla35
macrumors 68040
They'll likely be released August-Oct. and then Apple will likely release the broadwell rMBP Nov-Jan
The 750M is very capable. I can play every game I own on high at 1920x1200. A few games I own include starcraft 2, Diablo 3, and planetside 2. This is in bootcamp btw.
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Intel has already delayed broadwell by a quarter.
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Intel has already delayed broadwell by a quarter.
Vanilla35
macrumors 68040
I think they shifted it forward, then delayed it again later. So technically maybe it's not delayed 😀
Either way it's gonna land on the real market sometime this fall
The Intel Broadwell will be released in 2014 Q4, but it's in limited supplies. So big companies like Apple who will ship out computers in large computers will have to wait for 2015 Q1.
If you match the CPU, RAM and SSD on both the Iris-only and Iris+750M models, they're priced exactly the same. So the 750M is essentially a free upgrade.
The 750M in the rMBP and Haswell 21.5" iMac are the GDDR5 variants, so they outperform the GTX660M, according to notebookcheck.
I very much doubt whether Iris can handle NFS Rivals at medium settings smoothly.
l.a.rossmann
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Get integrated video. The 820-2850, 820-2915, 820-2249, 820-2101, have all shown that Apple can't be trusted with dedicated GPUs.
I encourage everyone I meet to get integrated video on their Macbook so they don't become the victim of my SCOTLE. 🙁
I encourage everyone I meet to get integrated video on their Macbook so they don't become the victim of my SCOTLE. 🙁
simon48
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You realize that the rMBPs with a dGPU also have an iGPU too, right? If your dGPU dies you just switch to only using your iGPU, there is no reason to avoid the dGPUs.
maflynn
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I've had MacBook pros with dGPUs for years and never had a problem. I'd not go to the extent that all MBPs with dGPUs will fail. If you're worried get applecare for an extra 2 years of protection.
l.a.rossmann
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Tell that to all the people with 820-2850 boards and 820-2915 boards that come with a processor with integrated graphics.
Show them how to switch to the Intel GPU.
I'll even send you 16 of mine. $100 for each one you can "switch"
You're stuck.
I do intend to eventually try putting them into a debug mode via hardsetting so that it uses the Intel GPU only, but this is for another day.
Unlike a Lenovo where you can switch in the BIOS and completely turn off your bad card(I killed mine for fun mining litecoin just to see how long it'd take), you're kinda effed on a Mac. You can't just push a switch and oh, it works. If the dedicated GPU goes, your laptop is very F'd & won't be booting.
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They don't all die, but a ton of them do die.
3 years for $300 isn't enough. They die right outside Applecare. 🙂
Go integrated if you value longevity.
simon48
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Wuiffi
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+1
Just gonna quote myself:
just check out which old models had GPU related problems:
l.a.rossmann
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If you can get my 820-2915s I send you to boot into an OS, I will raise my bet to $300.
augustya
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And there is no guarantee that if the DGPU dies, the IGPU will Make the Computer work...with a motherboard you can't really say what failure can impact which other area or soldered part of the Motherboard. A DGPU dying can also corrupt the entire display thereby making the rMBP useless !! Because that would require to change the graphic Card and changing a Graphic Card in a soldered Motherboard is like having a new motherboard altogether so all in all..If a DGPU fails there are very bright chances that the Display will also die ! Sharing this from a Real life Experience !
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Bang on Target Dude ! Spot on ! Since last my couple of posts have been trying to say this same thing after infact it happened with me, In My Earlier Laptop Case, DGPU failed, Display not booting up ! And people say oh ! Switch a Button and decide which Graphic Card do you wanna use IGPU OR DGPU. That may work while the DGPU is on, but after a DGPU Fails please show us that as an example...
So what ever you have said My Friend...Very True My Friend ! Very True ! Couldn't agree more ! What you are saying is Gospel Truth ! Bible Words ! Sad, people don't realise this, and keep saying if your DGPU dies, you can make your Mac to run only on IGPU ! That is not possible ! Period ! People who claim it please show some evidence !
A DGPU is not a bad thing to have, I am not saying this...BUt bear in Mind...Once it fails...There is very little...Absolutely nothing that you can do to salvage your Computer from further damage. Can have a damaging impact anywhere !
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+1 me too ! 😀
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simon48
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You again!? Oh boy, this is going to be fun...
We've been through this on your thread.
#1 It is not posible to "corrupt" a display. It is hardware, not software.
#2 Your "real life experience" was with a Sony Vaio not a MBP. You said your "repair technician" told you that your graphics card on your Sony Vaio had died giving you a "junk display".
#3 You contradicted yourself in this post.
First you say "And there is no gurantee that if the DGPU dies, the IGPU will work". I agree, it isn't a 100% chance that the iGPU will still work for everybody.
But then you say "Sad, people don't realise this, and keep saying if you your DGPU dies, you can make your Mac to run only on IGPU ! That is not possible ! Period !". No, it is possible and you just contradicted yourself.
#4 I already said (and others have done this too) I had a 2010 MBP with a dying dGPU and I used gfxCardStatus to force my iGPU to run all the time and it worked fine.
#5 You said (and I'm paraphrasing), "If your dGPU dies there is absolutely nothing that you can do to salvage your computer from further damage and it can have a damaging impact anywhere." The lunacy of this statement is just unbelievable!
You act like when a dGPU dies it releases magma and seemingly your only reason for this is you had a PC with a dead dGPU and talked to a tech that had no idea what they where talking about. Stop spreading rumors!
Poeple, please do not take what augustya is saying to heart, most of it is not true, not possible and has no basis.
augustya
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Oh Yeah...So what you are saying is the only truth people should listen to...Same thing which I have been saying has been reiterated by "l.a.rossmann" If you so much believe in your own Theory, This poster has given you an open challenge all the DGPU failed MBP he has, make them work only on the IGPU as your so called Expert, Scientist brain tells...And earn $100 for Each MBP to work...Dare to accept the challenge !! Do it and back up what you are saying...Or Please stop playing to the audience here...Giving all of them some false hope and belief that if this fails, that works..and blah...blah...It is plain Rubbish !
lol ! This is Height of your Lunacy and Poor understanding lol ! If a Graphic Card is Not Hardware !! what on Earth is it ? According to you ?
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simon48
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I never said I'm the only truth, I'm open to hearing other options. I think l.a.rossmann is honestly having a hard time (and might have no hope), I'm not going to take the challenge just do to the logistics of it and I'm also assuming it was a figure of speech.
I also said in the post you just quoted, "I agree, it isn't a 100% chance that the iGPU will still work for everybody."
I only posted to point out that you agree with anyone who thinks all computers are shot if the dGPU dies and I think your reason for getting that view lacks logic, truth and reason.
What do I need to do to "back it up"? I've said it worked for me, I've heard it work for others. You certainly haven't backed up your claims, what's your proof while we're asking for it?
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Corruption: "The process by which a computer database or program becomes debased by alteration or the introduction of errors".
GPUs and displays are hardware, corruption can only happen to software. A GPU can not corrupt a display.
augustya
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Oh Dear !! Oh Dear ! Look Who's Now Backing out ! Someone who was here to change the dynamics of Technology another Albert Einstein in Making ! is now not living up to his expectations of the Genius that he is !!
Give Yourself a Break have a sip of Coffee or Coke or Vodka that suits you best and just Shut the **** Up !
simon48
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Really? You are on thin ice right now.
I still stand by my case, how am I backing out? All I said was it wasn't 100% and it very well could be different for different cases and MBP models.
augustya
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Atleast I don't first make such false claims that you do, and then try and defend with the Nuances in it, saying oh well, I meant certain part of it as truth and not the entire thing...