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Atleast I don't first make such false claims that you do, and then try and defend with the Nuances in it, saying oh well, I meant certain part of it as truth and not the entire thing...

I'm going to make this simple...

How are my claims false?

How are your claims true?
 
I will make it even more simpler for you...The challenge is still open for you, First Try and Answer this, we will talk about other things later now...

Ha ha, no, you first. I already defended myself and you're just throwing stuff out there and hoping it sticks.
 
I think the Iris Pro only model is fine.

It's my preference actually. If I had a choice I'd get the top end model with only the Iris Pro. Performance is more than adequate and battery life will be better.

Right now mine is set at integrated only. Only reason I have the 750M is due to a warranty replacement.
 
Ha ha, no, you first. I already defended myself and you're just throwing stuff out there and hoping it sticks.

Yeah so stick by what you claimed and then defend it, at the moment you are shying away from a challenge thrown open to you to prove what you are saying is possible ! So do it !

What me first ?? I never made such ridiculous claims that if this fails run with that...I told you my actual real life example. So I have a proof now I can't show you my machine here right ?

So please now back up whatever you have claimed here, you have a reward money lying in here for you ! :rolleyes:
 
I think the Iris Pro only model is fine.

It's my preference actually. If I had a choice I'd get the top end model with only the Iris Pro. Performance is more than adequate and battery life will be better.

Right now mine is set at integrated only. Only reason I have the 750M is due to a warranty replacement.

Not if you can find a discount, i will be getting top end model for only $380 more than base model. For a long term machine well worth it.
 
Not if you can find a discount, i will be getting top end model for only $380 more than base model. For a long term machine well worth it.

What do you mean if I can find a discount.

I already own this computer. :confused:
 
I think the Iris Pro only model is fine.

It's my preference actually. If I had a choice I'd get the top end model with only the Iris Pro. Performance is more than adequate and battery life will be better.

Right now mine is set at integrated only. Only reason I have the 750M is due to a warranty replacement.

The battery life should be the same, only one GPU is ever running at a time.

Yeah so stick by what you claimed and then defend it, at the moment you are shying away from a challenge thrown open to you to prove what you are saying is possible ! So do it !

What me first ?? I never made such ridiculous claims that if this fails run with that...I told you my actual real life example. So I have a proof now I can't show you my machine here right ?

So please now back up whatever you have claimed here, you have a reward money lying in here for you ! :rolleyes:

I used my real life experience too (and mine was with a MBP).

I don't need to prove myself to you. If you have more facts about your opinion lay them out and maybe it'll convince me (or at least it'll make there be more info to debate).

Anyway, enough derailing trying to get this to be a real debate instead of you wanting me to argue against myself.
 
The battery life should be the same, only one GPU is ever running at a time.

No, the dGPU has a very much higher power consumption

from Anandtech:
Where Iris Pro is dangerous is when you take into account form factor and power consumption. The GT 650M is a 45W TDP part, pair that with a 35 - 47W CPU and an OEM either has to accept throttling or design a cooling system that can deal with both. Iris Pro on the other hand has its TDP shared by the rest of the 47W Haswell part. From speaking with OEMs, Iris Pro seems to offer substantial power savings in light usage (read: non-gaming) scenarios. In our 15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina Display review we found that simply having the discrete GPU enabled could reduce web browsing battery life by ~25%. Presumably that delta would disappear with the use of Iris Pro instead.
 
No, the dGPU has a very much higher power consumption

from Anandtech:
Where Iris Pro is dangerous is when you take into account form factor and power consumption. The GT 650M is a 45W TDP part, pair that with a 35 - 47W CPU and an OEM either has to accept throttling or design a cooling system that can deal with both. Iris Pro on the other hand has its TDP shared by the rest of the 47W Haswell part. From speaking with OEMs, Iris Pro seems to offer substantial power savings in light usage (read: non-gaming) scenarios. In our 15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina Display review we found that simply having the discrete GPU enabled could reduce web browsing battery life by ~25%. Presumably that delta would disappear with the use of Iris Pro instead.

Okay, but you can force the rMBP to use Iris only with gfxcardstatus. A click or two wouldn't waste much of your time. So it'll get you a great battery life in the end too.

My rMBP's the Iris+GT750M variant, and I only use the dGPU when there be need (gaming and CUDA-assisted software).
 
I don't need to prove myself to you.

Not Just to myself but ironically you need to prove to a lot of people here...including to the person who threw the challenge to you and you backtracked on your statements after saying who will work out the Logistics...That was expected out of you !

If you have more facts about your opinion lay them out and maybe it'll convince me (or at least it'll make there be more info to debate)

I think you are lost in your own world and hence just want to see things which you want to...I have only one advise for you now...Please do a Thorough Google Search before making this Pretence here !
 
rMBP 15, Iris Pro, Nvidia or Wait?!

No, the dGPU has a very much higher power consumption

from Anandtech:
Where Iris Pro is dangerous is when you take into account form factor and power consumption. The GT 650M is a 45W TDP part, pair that with a 35 - 47W CPU and an OEM either has to accept throttling or design a cooling system that can deal with both. Iris Pro on the other hand has its TDP shared by the rest of the 47W Haswell part. From speaking with OEMs, Iris Pro seems to offer substantial power savings in light usage (read: non-gaming) scenarios. In our 15-inch MacBook Pro with Retina Display review we found that simply having the discrete GPU enabled could reduce web browsing battery life by ~25%. Presumably that delta would disappear with the use of Iris Pro instead.

When it's running yes, but only one GPU can be running at once.

Nowhere in your quote from Anandtech does it say adding a dGPU and not having it enabled kills your battery life.
 
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Not Just to myself but ironically you need to prove to a lot of people here...including to the person who threw the challenge to you and you backtracked on your statements after saying who will work out the Logistics...That was expected out of you !



I think you are lost in your own world and hence just want to see things which you want to...I have only one advise for you now...Please do a Thorough Google Search before making this Pretence here !

Oh, ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Still going with the offense only and ignoring my pleas for you to defend yourself huh? Look, I can't debate with myself, if your not going to let this be a back and forth there's no point. If you've got anything to debate about post it or PM me and I'll be back, but for now I have no reason to keep derailing this thread (and I'm sure bugging the mods).
 
Oh, ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Still going with the offense only and ignoring my pleas for you to defend yourself huh? Look, I can't debate with myself, if your not going to let this be a back and forth there's no point. If you've got anything to debate about post it or PM me and I'll be back, but for now I have no reason to keep derailing this thread (and I'm sure bugging the mods).

You started it ! I did not ! There is nothing more to post or defend. You have to prove it, the challenge is as you say get the earlier MBP which have had a DGPU failures boot up only with the IGPU thats it simple ! You are not saying anything about it, and are just swaying from this topic that you started.

Ok just to...so that you also gain some sanity to look at other side of the coin...One more case for you just posted 3 days back...Read This...

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1706887/


Now tell him also, explain him also how can you get the failed DGPU working only with IGPU do it ! He will Thank You Till Eternity ! So many cases for you to work upon. Atleast take on case in hand and show it to the world what you say can be done !
 
You started it ! I did not ! There is nothing more to post or defend. You have to prove it, the challenge is as you say get the earlier MBP which have had a DGPU failures boot up only with the IGPU thats it simple ! You are not saying anything about it, and are just swaying from this topic that you started.

Ok just to...so that you also gain some sanity to look at other side of the coin...One more case for you just posted 3 days back...Read This...

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1706887/


Now tell him also, explain him also how can you get the failed DGPU working only with IGPU do it ! He will Thank You Till Eternity ! So many cases for you to work upon. Atleast take on case in hand and show it to the world what you say can be done !

Please stop.
 
Please stop.

Why? He is making a valid point: if the dGPU fails it can make your Macbook useless. I see the point many are trying to make with "you get more power for free", but if this "more power" (in form of the dGPU) brakes your Macbook it wasn't free after all.

Anyway, everyone has to decide for himself, I personally am no longer in my gaming days, so I'd take the comfort of having no dGPU that could theoretically brake over a bit of gaming performance.
 
I have the 15 with the dGPU and it definitely uses a lot more power. I was messing with some 3D rendering app and it nearly cooked my legs!
Don't need an app to tell if the 750 is running or not you can just smell the flesh burning ;)
 
Why? He is making a valid point: if the dGPU fails it can make your Macbook useless. I see the point many are trying to make with "you get more power for free", but if this "more power" (in form of the dGPU) brakes your Macbook it wasn't free after all.

Anyway, everyone has to decide for himself, I personally am no longer in my gaming days, so I'd take the comfort of having no dGPU that could theoretically brake over a bit of gaming performance.

Before the bickering by some users that was and still is my dilemma! I'm worried I'll get 2/3 years down the line and have major issues - both battery and dgpu graphics.

I'm actually debating going with a 13 retina 2.6 Ghz 16GB RAM 512GB SSD and using the £400 ($650 USD) I'd save on a custom built rig for further down the line. That machine would suit me 'on the road' for a number of years.
 
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I have the 15 with the dGPU and it definitely uses a lot more power. I was messing with some 3D rendering app and it nearly cooked my legs!
Don't need an app to tell if the 750 is running or not you can just smell the flesh burning ;)

That's because the app is using the GT750M. Before I use apps that require a dGPU, I make sure gfxcardstatus forces my rMBP into Intel-only so the app will use the Iris and not the GT750M.

I do this only on battery though. I still can get about 7.5 hours on a single charge (with the rMBP forced into Iris only).
 
Before the bickering by some users that was and still is my dilemma! I'm worried I'll get 2/3 years down the line and have major issues - both battery and dgpu graphics.

Battery can be replaced by Apple for a moderate fee. For the issues, there is a warranty. So far, Apple usually had extended recalls for the cases with faulty GPUs. And besides, these issues are not Apple exclusive. There is a chance of failure with any kind of product.

I'm actually debating going with a 13 retina 2.6 Ghz 16GB RAM 512GB SSD and using the £400 ($650 USD) I'd save on a custom built rig for further down the line. That machine would suit me 'on the road' for a number of years.

I don't really see how $650 will get you a computer that would serve you longer than a rMBP. A comparable CPU alone costs $300.
 
Oh I didn't know this...can the Battery of the rMBP be replaced if taken to APPLE ?
 
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