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It's like apple Is giving less and less reasons to buy an Apple TV. AFTER I ALREADY BOUGHT TWO

I have five of them, but why worry? Your ATVs do everything today that they did yesterday. And they have additional features that not all devices have.
 
Ahh, never can go a single thread without some wise crack about Apple buying the Competitor / Vendor the article talks about.

Here's a tip: NOT everything is for sale. Just because you have the money, doesn't mean they'll sell it to you.

Like right now, you could offer me all the money in the world, I'm not selling you my morning coffee.

Guess what? It wasn't a wise crack - I was serious. Also, Roku is a public company, so yes, they can be bought - even if management doesn't want to be - by someone with enough money to buy all the outstanding shares.
 
Guess what? It wasn't a wise crack - I was serious. Also, Roku is a public company, so yes, they can be bought - even if management doesn't want to be - by someone with enough money to buy all the outstanding shares.

That isn't how it works, even in a publicly traded company.
 
Roku is beating themselves. They lose money hand over fist. They will bend to anything Apple wants to get more people to use their product or they won't exist soon.
They’re not going anywhere and in the worst case scenario (or best depending on your perspective), they’ll be purchased by Amazon/Google/Apple.
 
Looks like I might not need Homebridge for my TCL 4K TV if this continues, and I gain Airplay 2, which means that I might not be dependent on my Apple TV so much other than HomeKit hub, Watch ESPN watching up to 4 streams at one time, and the occasional time that DirecTV Now doesn't stream properly on the Roku but works properly on the ATV. Of the streaming/smart interfaces out there, my family seems to like the Roku interface and remote the best.
 
I’ve bought a LG-Oled tv and it has web os 4.0 included (webos comes from Palm which bought it from Apple, the Newton OS I believe). It’s snappy, clean, supports Dolby Atmos and vision and does all the things the AppleTV does, all integrated. So the first thing I did was removing the Apple TV. The less different boxes, the better and less cable clutter too.

The LG didn’t come cheap, but the processor it uses is as speedy as my Apple TV. At least the experience is :).

I think most new smart TVs do offer the same as the Apple TV does. Apple properly knows this and is trying to offer their services through AirPlay and make deals like they did with Samsung and others. The customer will benefit I think.

Unless you have an older tv model, I don’t see a bright future for AppleTV because it’s being overhauled.
The problem I have found in using the LG apps is that it's unclear if the apps truly support 4K content. Amazon in particular will have a "UHD" icon on a show but while watching only plays the 1080p version. I can't tell if the Netflix app does the same because I have yet to find a means to display the content resolution in that app.

I have considered an AppleTV for that reason. I would like to get my 4K content in 4K. I acknowledge that the difference isn't overwhelming, but it's there.
 
Roku is spending lots of money to hold their place. Apple is sliding backwards. The one more on track to sliding out of existence is Apple TV ( since relatively decreasing year over year). The competition is not purely Roku vs Apple. There are several players here. Some of about as deep pockets in this submarket as much as Apple is probably willing to spend.


This is a hobby for Apple and a service they can offer in a bundle of other services or as a standalone to increase stickiness. It's Roku's entire business and they are failing.
 
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OH naive one. It doesn't work that way. Yes, your data is sold to advertisers who want to target ads to you, but your viewing habits, what you like, when you are home, where you live, what other devices you connect, what you say in front of it, your family's bio data, etc., etc., are all captured and resold to data brokers, including companies like Google and Facebook who buy it and add to your virtual dossier. [/quote]

You're the one who is naive. Apple is collecting that same info and using it to buy discounts from content creation folks. That data is on the negotiating table so it is transferred and transfer is grounded around money.


When you make fake news allegations like 1) Apple is storing and collecting this private data like everyone else, and 2) transferring to other companies, there's no point in continuing the discussion.
 
Not in a friendly acquisition - but it's pretty much how it works in a hostile takeover.

even in a hostile take-over, there are limitations to it. The one thing these comments don't account for is that there are two parties that need to be appeased for a takeover.

Current shareholders. Even if there's not a singular entity at 51%, for a hostile take over to occur, you'd have to convince 51% of the shares to be sold. This is not easy.

for companies that do have majority owners, they would have to vote on allowing further shares to be sold to a singular entity

then you get into the regulators and government entities who oversea purchases and acquisitions of companies.

There's a reason why we don't see more and more hostile take-overs these days, it's because it's not easy nor cheap to do. you don't just call up your stock broker and saya "buy 51% of company!" since on a normal cycle sufficient shares are not up for sale (remember, you can only buy shares if there's someone willing to sell you that share). And typically once a hostile take over commences, those who own shares either double down on holding them, or raise their sell price considerably.

Hostile takeovers are bad, and are extremely costly to the company doing the take-over. you'd have to have a significant financial motivation to do so.

that's why these "Apple should just buy company X" posts that occur in almost every single thread when talking about an Apple competitor or vendor is just asanine. it's about akin to say Apple should just go to the moon.Can they technically do it? Sure, but the costs and hurdles they'd have to overcome to do so don't necessarily make it worth it.

of course, Roku could always WANT to sell (or the largest share holders), but that's a different kind of take-over all together, and when that happens, usually if it's to give up controlling interest the board has to vote on it.
 
Sweet, hope it goes through. Getting a new TCL Roku TV and then hearing about Airplay 2 on other devices was a bummer!
 
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does anyone know if a company has to pay Apple if they wanted to implement Airplay?
 
A cheap device that Airplays? bring it on.

This can only be a good thing for both Apple and Roku, as well as the people that use them.
 
We will gradually say bye to Apple TV...so bye bye to the future of apple tv....just a little too late....
 
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We will gradually say bye to Apple TV...so bye bye to the future of apple tv....just a little too late....

are we saying bye to the Firetv because there is a prime App now everywhere?, no, Apple tv is going nowhere anytime soon especially with Apple coming out with their own streaming service
 
are we saying bye to the Firetv because there is a prime App now everywhere?, no, Apple tv is going nowhere anytime soon especially with Apple coming out with their own streaming service

And you really think their streaming service will work in the long run when other streaming services are settled....i believe disneys new streaming service will be a success but Apple's is really questionable and many people utilize other streaming services and most likely would not switch to Apple's........
 
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The problem I have found in using the LG apps is that it's unclear if the apps truly support 4K content. Amazon in particular will have a "UHD" icon on a show but while watching only plays the 1080p version. I can't tell if the Netflix app does the same because I have yet to find a means to display the content resolution in that app.

I have considered an AppleTV for that reason. I would like to get my 4K content in 4K. I acknowledge that the difference isn't overwhelming, but it's there.

Yes, that's how my Sony works too. The internal Apps are all natively output at 4K, and the TV doesn't make a distinction between true 4K and a lower res that has been up-scaled. Most smart TVs are pretty limited when it comes to something so basic. The only way to tell for sure is on an app that allows you to check the original resolution, and even then, apps like YouTube will indicate they are HDR, and even trigger the HDR indicator on a TV, but aren't really doing anything.
 
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