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Ugh. Thats a problem. Have a few window specific apps that have never run natively on apple.
That might change. Apple could have something in their hands... why risk such a disrupting crazy move, just for the sake of getting rid of Intel? Hardly think so, I think we will presence something we have never thought of before.
 
It’s not just an arm version of the existing app. It’s a completely different kind of app - an emulator is necessary, and that’s not how parallels currently works.
There was a way to run Windows back on the PPC Macs. I know there will be a way with these new Apple processors. It just won’t be a current version of Fusion or Parallels + Rosetta 2.

To your point, that’s emulation and not virtualization, but as long as it works, I don’t think most folks will care.
 
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Now all that Microsoft needs to do is create Windows for ARM that doesn't suck.

🤣 ... Windows will always suck, otherwise a whole world of PC support companies/departments would collapse.

But seriously, MS should focus more on just (offline) Office software and make it uncluttered, intuitive and faster. Bring back the old Mac unit that made Office v.X and 2008. Way better Office than the current 365 version.
 
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This statement as-is will confuse a lot of people, since we already had threads from people yesterday who were panicking because they thought Bootcamp was going away on existing Intel Macs. Nothing is preventing Parallels from continuing to offer Windows support via emulation like Virtual PC did 20 years ago. I suspect they'll probably end up doing that and mentioned this in another thread earlier today.

Additionally, Microsoft offers Windows on ARM containers for Windows ARM hosts (but not direct distribution of the OS as a whole) and perhaps someone could unofficially get one of those images running.

I think it's safe to say there will be ways to run Windows, but it's too early to tell how good or bad those will be.

I'm pretty sure that, in the WWDC presentation demo, I saw Linux running as a guest within Parallels Desktop.
 
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Is it me or everyone didn't read the post?

All it means is that Parallels for example will have to write an ARM version of their app. It doesn't mean virtualising Windows x86 or x86_64 on ARM is impossible.

I am 90% sure that Parallels on ARM is 90% finished already. :)
 
Software engineers will find ways to adapt and transform workflows and compatibility for this new platform without a doubt. Why being so reluctant to change????
Change for change’s sake is plain irrational. If Apple wants to change their OS platform then I can easily keep my development platform static by changing OS.

Apple will lose the developers as users. When you lose them then historically platforms die.
 
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Over the last 10 years we've had Windows on our laptops. We use it less and less. Then owning a cheap Win laptop or getting one from work sort of became standard. I wonder how many people are still booting into Windows on a Mac? We were pretty regularly 2 years ago. But it's almost odd how it doesn't seem to matter anymore.
 
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Change for change’s sake is plain irrational. If Apple wants to change their OS platform then I can easily keep my development platform static by changing OS.

Apple will lose the developers as users. When you lose them then historically platforms die.

I disagree. This isn’t change for the sake of change. Apple didn’t adopt an existing platform for iPhone or iPad. They created a market way bigger than Mac and more valuable than Intel. If you want to code for iPhone or iPad you will buy a Mac. Why not make the Mac fully integrated with your best selling devices?
 
Change for change’s sake is plain irrational. If Apple wants to change their OS platform then I can easily keep my development platform static by changing OS.

Apple will lose the developers as users. When you lose them then historically platforms die.

Why do you need Windows for development? So are you saying Apple will loose Mac developers or just 'developers' in general?
 
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Over the last 10 years we've had Windows on our laptops. We use it less and less. Then owning a cheap Win laptop or getting one from work sort of became standard. I wonder how many people are still booting into Windows on a Mac? We were pretty regularly 2 years ago. But it's almost odd how it doesn't seem to matter anymore.
If not for boot camp I’d never have made the jump back to mac. But I think i uninstalled VMware and boot camp back in the snow leopard time frame.
 
I disagree. This isn’t change for the sake of change. Apple didn’t adopt an existing platform for iPhone or iPad. They created a market way bigger than Mac and more valuable than Intel. If you want to code for iPhone or iPad you will buy a Mac. Why not make the Mac fully integrated with your best selling devices?

I agree generally. I think the Windows thing is such a minor part of the world unless you are totally meshed into the Windows world who cares anymore? Which platform are more apps created for each month now? iOS or Windows?
 
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According to AppleInsider, only about 2% of Macs run Boot Camp. Apple is betting that for every one of you who leaves, more will migrate to the platform because their favorite iPad apps will run.
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Probably not as many as you think. According to AppleInsider, only about 2% of Macs run Boot Camp.

Frankly I'm surprised it's as high as 2%. I really have no idea why someone would buy a Mac, then turn around and boot Windows on it.

The really interesting figure is how many of us run virtualization software like VMware, Parallels or VirtualBox. I assume that figure is much higher as that's the correct way of running Windows on a Mac. As a user who runs a fairly balanced mix of Windows and macOS apps on my MacBook Pro, if Boot Camp went away tomorrow, I wouldn't shed a tear.
 
They want these to be devices like your iPhone. Don’t tamper with it. Don’t put other OS’s on it. That’s their business model. Locked down as much as possible.
 
Frankly I'm surprised it's as high as 2%. I really have no idea why someone would buy a Mac, then turn around and boot Windows on it.

Safety net for noobs, and people who want to run windows games and don’t want to buy a second PC, I’d assume. Also the occasional software developer.
 
Would ARM still work with something like Microsoft Remote Desktop to use Windows app on the Mac?

I know there is a difference between Remote Desktop and VM. Any explanation is appreciated.

I ran Microsoft Remote Desktop on my iPad Pro a few weeks ago for fun and connected to my Windows 10 Desktop as a test and it worked great. So considering this is basically the same processor I see know reason why that solution won't work.
 
Epic fail.

But what would you expect from a bean counter who'd cut off a hand to save a finger?

Did anyone really expect Tim Cook to wow anyone? UGH! Goodbye to that 10% marketshare!
It will be back down to 5% again like with John Scully! Just create an iPhone computer and kill the SOB!
So Tim Cook is an epic fail because his concern isn’t running another company‘s operating system on his hardware?
 
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