$6000 is not too bad. It's clear that this is an actual workstation. For that price, you can get comparable server hardware.
But the design.....
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But the design.....
Yeah yeah, you know what I'm going to say, it doesn't run macOS.
And no, I don't want to Hackintosh either.
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I would think so. It's somehow related to PCIe. Speaking of which, this thing has enough PCIe slots; you could always put storage into one of those.
Yeah there is, check the workstations. Apple doesn't have many special parts (HDD encryption chip maybe). What sets them apart is the design and the OS integration.
Lets see, a lot of people spend $1000 a month on rent, $500 a month for an automobile and they complain when a Mac Pro can be paid off in a year at $500 a month or $250 a month for two years and last 10 years. Go figure?
$6,000 not bad? You can buy an iMac Pro starting at $5,000. Besides expansion the same thing. For $1,000 less you get, 8 core Xeon, 1TB SSD, 32GB RAM AND a 5k screen. More storage and a 5k screen for $1,000 less. The design/expansion is not $1,000 more.
Apple could make an good pro desktop machine (currently a 4/6/8 core i9 or 4/6/8 core Xeon with decent graphics and some expansion capability) in the $3-5 range with profit margin. And keep it updated regularly. For whatever reason they choose not to.
I trust you on the numbers. Computers (i.e. actual desktops and laptops, not just anything with a CPU) are simply more expensive than they were in the pre-"I-Just-Use-My-Phone" days. Late 2000's were the heyday.
*Crapping* on Apple is easy. My younger brother and I legit BOND when talking about the ******** they pull. BUT...I give credit where it's due.
The $1,000 stand is absolute Apple bougie ridiculousness, tho. I bet even billionaires will complain about that ****ing stand price. "A GRAND...FOR A STAND." in case no one's made that low-hanging-fruit joke.
*A previous version of this post included a starred-out version of the dreaded "SH Word". It has since been updated to reflect the action of the verb.
*Crapping* on Apple is easy. My younger brother and I legit BOND when talking about the ******** they pull. BUT...I give credit where it's due.
The $1,000 stand is absolute Apple bougie ridiculousness, tho. I bet even billionaires will complain about that ****ing stand price. "A GRAND...FOR A STAND." in case no one's made that low-hanging-fruit joke.
*A previous version of this post included a starred-out version of the dreaded "SH Word". It has since been updated to reflect the action of the verb.
Is everyone's vision of "the 1%" that they buy the new Mac Pro each time? I'll bet most of these are purchased by corps. Most people don't need or even want this kind of machine regardless of price. And the fact that they sell justifies the price.
I still wish there were a midrange expandable Mac desktop.
Time for a Mac mini pro.
Same design, less tall, less pci slots, less memory slots, 1 120mm fan on the front, place for one single or dual vega2, cheaper Xeons or i9’ s , etc.
Great for smaller businesses, and a cheaper. For people that want the power of an iMac pro but with better upgrade ability and more flexibility, but don’ t need all the power of the new Mac Pro.
And perhaps a cheaper and smaller version of the xdr monitor which is of course not as good as the xdr monitor but could still be quite good.
They need something in the middle.... for pro consumers or smaller developers.
Same design, less tall, less pci slots, less memory slots, 1 120mm fan on the front, place for one single or dual vega2, cheaper Xeons or i9’ s , etc.
Great for smaller businesses, and a cheaper. For people that want the power of an iMac pro but with better upgrade ability and more flexibility, but don’ t need all the power of the new Mac Pro.
And perhaps a cheaper and smaller version of the xdr monitor which is of course not as good as the xdr monitor but could still be quite good.
They need something in the middle.... for pro consumers or smaller developers.
Yes that would be nice! Please put your request in at https://www.apple.com/feedback/macmini.html. Apple has a feedback page just for these kinds of requests!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Err, if you think you MUST have macOS AND MUST have mac pro spec, then ether save up some money to get one or rethink your actual needs. :shrug:
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Why don't you meet up with Apple's board of directors and tell them you can run the company better than Tim Cook? I mean if they think your idea is better for the company, you can oust Cook for the CEO spot. Just sayin' as it seems you are more expert in the business.
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People demanded it, and Apple delivered. Let's see if those demands were real.
Once the actual demand is normalized, people will probably realize that they actually don't need what they demanded, and many can probably go by with the regular iMac/mac mini.
Imagine spending $6K on a ball-busting audio/video/VR editing machine (that also runs MacOS) with which you can make a nice living, when you could just buy six iPhone X's. Ahh … perspective!
It's not for everyone, including me at this point. But I can dream little — while hoping my 2015 5K iMac stays alive and I don't have to send the whole bloody thing in for service. Still hoping for something in-between this and a Mac mini, and an Apple display I can afford.
It's not for everyone, including me at this point. But I can dream little — while hoping my 2015 5K iMac stays alive and I don't have to send the whole bloody thing in for service. Still hoping for something in-between this and a Mac mini, and an Apple display I can afford.
I agree... I think Apple has done this:
iMAc Pro = ProConsumer Productions machine
Mac Pro = Pro level industry (excepted to be purchased by corporations)
We need:
Mac Mini
Mac This computer is missing... this is what we want.
iMac Pro
Mac Pro
What are you talking about? Two modular storage slots and it looks like even CPU may be socketed.
No thermal constraints and.....how many times in the marketing materials and keynote did they talk about its "function?" They're clearly signaling to people "we heard you---we designed around function..."er...."our design of the form was driven by it's function" (or something pretentious sounding).
I still can't get over how ugly the machined holes on this design are - along with those on the monitor. The solid tubular feet and handles just look really weird on the macPro, and - at least in all the photos I've seen the juxtaposition between the machined ends and flat sides (And the flat area across the back of the display) is just weird.
I also have to say that the stand just doesn't look like it matches either...far too square and angular.
Whatever happened to the great, **understated** designs of the old cheesegrater MacPro and the old aluminium displays?
I'd feel like a right idiot with one of these new designs on my desk - even if I had the need or the funds. They look way over-designed (like a complete waste of money on the cases that aren't even pretty).
I also have to say that the stand just doesn't look like it matches either...far too square and angular.
Whatever happened to the great, **understated** designs of the old cheesegrater MacPro and the old aluminium displays?
I'd feel like a right idiot with one of these new designs on my desk - even if I had the need or the funds. They look way over-designed (like a complete waste of money on the cases that aren't even pretty).
That's a bit disingenuous. Granted, this forum is a very small sample, but there is a pretty vocal element requesting that type of product. They may certainly be in the minority, but we're not that far removed from the MacPro 6,1 failure to think that they automatically get the benefit of the doubt.
I agree. I would love to have a headless Mac with 1 PCIe slot for a GPU of my choosing, with a non-Xeon Intel CPU with a proper heatsink and fan, and user upgradable RAM. Call it the Mac and price it at $1999.
Most of people will do well enough with iMacs or iMacs Pro. Was G5 same workstation as Mac Pro now is?
They went full steam punk. Nice. As far as the specs go, meh. You can build your own for 60% of the price and get approx twice the power.
With what specs?
Dell's offering for similar specs is around $5,000 USD. The same machine also is configurable for up to 3TB of memory, 112 threads (56 cores), and quad GPUs as well. This config blows past the $100k mark, however.
It's going to be interesting to see what the maxed out Mac Pro will come to. I have a feeling it will be a fair bit more than the $35,000 predicted.