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Looks like Im still gonna stay with my ancient 10.6 install.

Lion didn't add anything I wanted. Read the Gizmodo review and it looks like the iOSification continues. Ill update once they add something relevant for proper desktop computer use on my iMac

I don't think I'd make my decision based on one poor review?
 
I mean the Gizmodo people are right. Apple is out of ideas. Take a look at any real fundamental differences between Leopard and Mountain Lion. The only difference is black/white UI, speed improvements, and an attempt to synergize Mac OSX and iOS. With mountian lion, they have added all the possible iOS things in Mac OSX. Besides more security and speed improvements, they are out of ideas.

Furthermore, the difference in iOS 5 to iOS 6 further show this. They have no ideas that they are forced to make the UI (especially in phone) look bad. Also, besides Passbook, there is nothing groundbreaking.

Same with Microsoft as well. There was nothing they could do to improve Windows 7 so they had to start from scratch. I personally like Windows 7 type of productivity better. But if they stuck that route, like Apple they would have no ideas. No point of fixing something that aint broke.

The fact is it just seems there is a technological road block.
Gizmodo is a pathetic joke, and is so your attempt to look like you understand and agree with their fake sentiment.
 
I mean the Gizmodo people are right. Apple is out of ideas. Take a look at any real fundamental differences between Leopard and Mountain Lion. The only difference is black/white UI, speed improvements, and an attempt to synergize Mac OSX and iOS. With mountian lion, they have added all the possible iOS things in Mac OSX. Besides more security and speed improvements, they are out of ideas.

Furthermore, the difference in iOS 5 to iOS 6 further show this. They have no ideas that they are forced to make the UI (especially in phone) look bad. Also, besides Passbook, there is nothing groundbreaking.

Same with Microsoft as well. There was nothing they could do to improve Windows 7 so they had to start from scratch. I personally like Windows 7 type of productivity better. But if they stuck that route, like Apple they would have no ideas. No point of fixing something that aint broke.

The fact is it just seems there is a technological road block.

At some point there is nothing else to improve and you add features that make the system worse. Everything about iOS is great, just think about how ubiquitous its setup is on every smartphone on the market and how anyone can pick it up and use it on the first day. Making things simpler has always been the goal of every engineer out there. Complexity isn't a good thing for a OS, we add enough of that ourselves with all the programs we run.
 
Yes, I doubt you'll ever see a positive review from Gizmodo about Apple ever again. Shame they can't divorce themselves from their trollish behavior, admit they were wrong, and try to go forward as legit journalists. But since this is Jesus Diaz writing the review, I guess he's still a little miffed that his house was roused from a search warrant during his and Gizmodo's iPhone fiasco.

If you have stolen merchandise in your house (that you paid $5000 for knowing it was stolen), don't be surprised if the police come knocking at your door.
 
At some point there is nothing else to improve and you add features that make the system worse. Everything about iOS is great, just think about how ubiquitous its setup is on every smartphone on the market and how anyone can pick it up and use it on the first day. Making things simpler has always been the goal of every engineer out there. Complexity isn't a good thing for a OS, we add enough of that ourselves with all the programs we run.

I agree with you Mac OSX is great. Mountian Lion makes it even a little better. But I think overall, they are out of groundbreaking ideas like Dashboard and Expose ect.
 
Yes, I doubt you'll ever see a positive review from Gizmodo about Apple ever again. Shame they can't divorce themselves from their trollish behavior, admit they were wrong, and try to go forward as legit journalists. But since this is Jesus Diaz writing the review, I guess he's still a little miffed that his house was roused from a search warrant during his and Gizmodo's iPhone fiasco.



I'm sure John Gruber will skewer them on Daring Fireball AND as the Macalope. These are usually the times where you can read between the lines that he writes the Macalope columns.

The ironic thing is Gizmodo is spot on; for example, look at their criticism of fullscreen apps. I enjoy my Mac, but I feel that Apple doesn't 'wow' us anymore (but maybe my expectations are too high).

And John Gruber is very bias towards Apple. In his eyes, Apple can do no wrong (not literally, but you'll never see him call out Apple on anything that isn't a software bug).
 
I mean the Gizmodo people are right. Apple is out of ideas. Take a look at any real fundamental differences between Leopard and Mountain Lion. The only difference is black/white UI, speed improvements, and an attempt to synergize Mac OSX and iOS. With mountian lion, they have added all the possible iOS things in Mac OSX. Besides more security and speed improvements, they are out of ideas.

Furthermore, the difference in iOS 5 to iOS 6 further show this. They have no ideas that they are forced to make the UI (especially in phone) look bad. Also, besides Passbook, there is nothing groundbreaking.

Same with Microsoft as well. There was nothing they could do to improve Windows 7 so they had to start from scratch. I personally like Windows 7 type of productivity better. But if they stuck that route, like Apple they would have no ideas. No point of fixing something that aint broke.

The fact is it just seems there is a technological road block.

Gizmodo shouldn't even be allowed to review anything made by Apple. Don't you remember the iPhone 4 prototype getting out in the open the other year? Gizmodo had something to do with it. Apple got them in rather serious trouble with the law and didn't houses get searched and computers seized? Although if I remember in the end Gizmodo were cleared, but its blatantly obvious they are slandering the product on purpose.
 
If you have stolen merchandise in your house (that you paid $5000 for knowing it was stolen), don't be surprised if the police come knocking at your door.

Exactly, I mean WTF, does he think he can break the law just because he is a journalist? Freedom of speech doesn't mean you can buy stolen property, LOL.
 
I didn't realize so many people hated Lion. Why do people hate Lion? I've never had an issue with it.
 
Disagree with Gizmodo. Windows 8 is a nice idea, but man it's going to confuse the living heck out of lots of casual Windows users. (Like the secretaries in my office. I feel bad for our IT department.)

Only takes a few minutes to get yourself used to Windows 8. Once I found the hidden menu bar on the right side (just hit side with pointer). Thing went smoothy from there.

They have a desktop panel so you can get the use and feel of the win7, but once you start using window8, the panels start to becoming useful.

MS did a good job with this upgrade.
 
I agree with you Mac OSX is great. Mountian Lion makes it even a little better. But I think overall, they are out of groundbreaking ideas like Dashboard and Expose ect.

Okay, thanks for throwing that in so we can know you're trying to troll. :)

Lol...Dashboard being called "groundbreaking". Good one...
 
We'll see new groundbreaking ideas when a new form factor dictates it. I.E. the iOS was groundbreaking because of the touch interface.

Perhaps the iTV (or whatever) would allow for that. As long as we're stuck to a keyboard and mouse, there's inherent limitations outside of, perhaps, voice control (which isn't all that new).
 
The ironic thing is Gizmodo is spot on; for example, look at their criticism of fullscreen apps. I enjoy my Mac, but I feel that Apple doesn't 'wow' us anymore (but maybe my expectations are too high).

And John Gruber is very bias towards Apple. In his eyes, Apple can do no wrong (not literally, but you'll never see him call out Apple on anything that isn't a software bug).

Dude I don't know about you but I am all over full-screen apps. Example:

I run two 'desktops' with EVE Online, one with my e-mail client, one with Writer, another with Safari, and another with calendar. With a flick of my finger I can switch between EVE clients or shoot out an e-mail. Very cool stuff. :cool:
 
Gizmodo has been anti-Apple ever since the company sued them and banned them from media events (after Gizmodo refused to return a stolen iPhone 4 prototype). Apple could create a fountain of youth and Gizmodo would complain that it only adds 10 years to your life instead of 20.

Typical JizzModo.... Unless its a comment from them that's posted on a different site, I wouldn't even know the comment exist. I NEVER even look at their page.
 
Okay, thanks for throwing that in so we can know you're trying to troll. :)

Lol...Dashboard being called "groundbreaking". Good one...

Dashboard is more groundbreaking than Mission Control. And in Mountian Lion they add a search bar!!! Sigh... For real though stuff like Expose and Stacks that really changed how we use our computers. Apple is focusing on taking the only thing they do know now (iOS) and bring it to Mac. Other than that they have no ideas.
 
Excited to read Siracusa's epic review. I look forward to them almost as much as the OS releases themselves.

I'm sure John Gruber will skewer them on Daring Fireball AND as the Macalope. These are usually the times where you can read between the lines that he writes the Macalope columns.

Pretty sure he is not the Macalope. There was a Macworld predictions article that featured them both. (Unless he purposely came up with two completely different set of predictions in order to mislead people, which I suppose is possible.)

And as much as Diaz is clearly still bitter about the iPhone 4 fiasco, he is right that Apple's Skeuomorphism has gotten a bit ridiculous lately. Fullscreen Notepad is particularly hideous, IMO.
 
Looks like Im still gonna stay with my ancient 10.6 install.

Lion didn't add anything I wanted. Read the Gizmodo review and it looks like the iOSification continues. Ill update once they add something relevant for proper desktop computer use on my iMac

I basically agree with you, but for a somewhat more nuanced reason. IMO, 10.7 lion did add a few features that I want, such as full screen apps, built in autosave with versioning, session resume after shutdown, and full disk encryption http://lifehacker.com/5770609/screenshot-and-feature-tour-of-mac-os-107-lion . but along with those features I like I would also get saddled with a LOSS OF features from 10.6 replaced by new features that I DON'T like, such as mission control replacing expose, loss of the Save As function, etc. so overall it would be 2 steps forward and 2 steps back. And now 10.8 isn't adding a single new feature that I care about, so for me the best choice is probably to stick with 10.6 snow leopard.
 
We'll see new groundbreaking ideas when a new form factor dictates it. I.E. the iOS was groundbreaking because of the touch interface.

Perhaps the iTV (or whatever) would allow for that. As long as we're stuck to a keyboard and mouse, there's inherent limitations outside of, perhaps, voice control (which isn't all that new).

Until my computer can talk back to me like Tony Stark's computer, I rather not talk to it...
 
Dashboard is more groundbreaking than Mission Control. And in Mountian Lion they add a search bar!!! Sigh... For real though stuff like Expose and Stacks that really changed how we use our computers. Apple is focusing on taking the only thing they do know now (iOS) and bring it to Mac. Other than that they have no ideas.

I guess we can agree to disagree.

If there's ONE tech company with any new ideas, it's Apple. Their track record has proven as much.
 
You can almost feel the bitterness from Giz's article!

What do we think Apple will call the next major revision anyway? OS XI or 11 or something else entirely? Probably still over 2 years away though I guess.
 
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