No, that's not it, read it again. Keep reading after you get to the word "inexpensive."
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No, that's not it, read it again. Keep reading after you get to the word "inexpensive."
They sacrificed too much for such a small improvement in size and weight.
The fact that it doesnt have a standard 2.5" SSD drive, upgradeable memory, a proprietary SSD drive, etc. will make this thing a pain in the ass to use down the line. The first thing I do whenever I buy a new mac is throw out the internal drive replacing it with my own and upgrading the RAM on my own.
I've been saying Apple is obsessed with imposing limitations on the end user, but this is just insane.
Just take a look at iFixit's tear down;
Step 22:
The fact that it doesnt have a standard 2.5" SSD drive, upgradeable memory, a proprietary SSD drive, etc. will make this thing a pain in the ass to use down the line. The first thing I do whenever I buy a new mac is throw out the internal drive replacing it with my own and upgrading the RAM on my own.
I've been saying Apple is obsessed with imposing limitations on the end user, but this is just insane.
Just take a look at iFixit's tear down;
Step 22:
What's interesting is that an equivalently-specced (CPU, RAM, storage) regular MacBook Pro is more expensive than a Retina MacBook Pro. Once you throw an SSD into the non-Retina version, the price skyrockets.
Yeah but the thing is for 2500$ you already got the beast + 400$ for decent SSD it's a take, compared to where the 2199$ + 200$ ram will take you? 256 SSD HDD 2.3 vs 2.7 i7 the only thing that buys me into Retina MBP is the retina and weight and redesign.
That's why I got the Retina MBP. I don't care about the retina display, most of the time, the laptop will be attached to my external monitor. But I wanted the SSD, and adding the 512 GB SSD (minimum size I need) to the 15" MBP made it more expensive than the 2.6/512 rMBP. The retina display is just a bonus.
The difference in price between the lower 15s is CDN $400 and the top 15s have a difference of CDN $600.
The main differences are the graphics card (on the lower models), the SSD storage, and of course the display.
Personally, I think it's worth it. Yeah it's more expensive, but relative to what you're getting, I'm surprised Apple didn't start the prices a bit higher. Especially considering the SSDs and the display, and especially the top model SSD. For what it is, I wouldn't call it "expensive." I'd call it on par.
The main differences are the graphics card (on the lower models), the SSD storage, and of course the display.
Personally, I think it's worth it. Yeah it's more expensive, but relative to what you're getting, I'm surprised Apple didn't start the prices a bit higher. Especially considering the SSDs and the display, and especially the top model SSD. For what it is, I wouldn't call it "expensive." I'd call it on par.
Never said any think about price was just saying that they try to manipulate people that are not tech savvy. yes a great product but main selling point is Retina me i'll wait for the 2nd or 3rd revision as the amount of ssd storage is very small and waiting will see improvements over the current version.
Besides this computer is for pros, but a lot of broke college kids will have this in starbucks searching for jobs.
Currently I'm not tempted to buy the new MBP, I'm more than happy with my 13". Once apple releases a 13" retina MBP, i might go and upgrade my current one. But I don't see any reason going out and buying one today.
1) Few apps support retina
2) Price will dramatically drop in a few years
3) Why upgrade when your current device does everything you need it? Its unnecessary and harms the environment.
1) Few apps support retina
2) Price will dramatically drop in a few years
3) Why upgrade when your current device does everything you need it? Its unnecessary and harms the environment.
Is this a portable desktop or something you're going to be carrying around every day each day?I am about to buy a Macbook Pro from the states due to the fact they are cheaper of courseAnd I am in high doubt which configuration I should go for. I've been waiting to read reviews how the Non Retina compares to the Retina, and people say it's worth the money. I will be using the MBP for photoshop most of the time and Xcode programming while I am not a spec freak I do wanna get the best for the money. So far I have never had a problem of picking up a mac but, now with the Retina Macbook do I really want it ? Do I really need it are two different things. So I went out and made a quick ugly pros and cons picture to stack them up. Tell me what do you think.Image
Thanks in advance!
Cheers Simeon!
If the former go with the non-retina, if the latter go with the retina.
Some pro's as to why you should take the retina anyways:
- There's blazingly fast wi-fi anywhere; personally I haven't plugged my macbook into an ethernet port for ages.
- Do you really think you'll need more RAM in the coming five years?
- 2.3 i7 Ghz is plenty for PS & Xcode.
- 256 GB is enough if you're using your machine as a portable. You likely won't store all of your project files on your macbook. In my experience, if you have a bunch of files they tend to end up at some storage device in your office (or the cloud...)
frankly speaking i love all the software updates, but ever since 4s i m not liking the way apple is rolling out hardware, the loss of steve is imminent here.
firstly they call this era as "post pc", on the second side they price their stuff way beyond average consumer's reach, its a computer, apple "now" shud win market share, steve would have focused n done that if alive.
They r move more n more away from average consumer, this is rich boy's toy clearly the ones who dont even need that extra power, there is no proper "fragmentation" too, this is not what most of apple fans expected
firstly they call this era as "post pc", on the second side they price their stuff way beyond average consumer's reach, its a computer, apple "now" shud win market share, steve would have focused n done that if alive.
They r move more n more away from average consumer, this is rich boy's toy clearly the ones who dont even need that extra power, there is no proper "fragmentation" too, this is not what most of apple fans expected
There was no way for Apple to address this without giving companies access to the laptop. There will be a period of transition, just like iPhone apps. It's pretty hard to find non-retina apps in the app store nowadays.
How about reviews of the models that the rest of us can afford?
trully agree with u and i m pissed off as a pro user too, i cant afford this laptop, clearly apple has good os and hardware and at this point of time that is "post pc era(as told by apple themselves)" they shud be winning market share, they did same shi* at the time of ip 4s launch, look at competition today we hav so many great smartphones, this mb retina is beyond reach of most people.
In a couple years, people are going to look back at the articles and laugh at the mention of the lack of an optical drive as a weakness. By then, everything will not have an optical drive, including the new ultra-thin iMac.
This:
"the least repairable laptop weve taken apart"
is a deal breaker for me...stunning display but no thanks
"the least repairable laptop weve taken apart"
is a deal breaker for me...stunning display but no thanks
This:
"the least repairable laptop weve taken apart"
is a deal breaker for me...stunning display but no thanks
yeah me too
~$2200 isn't bad. That's the same as I paid years ago for my last computer, an ultraportable (1.7GHz 512MB 50GB 10" Pentium M Sony, still crawling).
Between non-trivial inflation and big industry price drops, that's a helluva machine for a quite reasonable price.
I had to read the text a few times to get it. It's a bit ambiguous.
When you bundle "And, of course, inexpensive." with the paragraph above it, it seems like he's saying it is inexpensive.
When you bundle it with the paragraph below it, then you get the real meaning.
Weird style, IMHO... Not that I'm know to be a clear communicator, but then again, I'm not a journalist...
The first thing the majority of users do :
Buy the machine configured the way they want it, so they don't have to open it and do all kinds of things that may void the warranty.
Let alone, that the majority of users do not have the technical knowledge to tinker around in their machines.
These users will not feel or even think about any Apple limitations!
Your post is -as usual- misguided in that this is obviously not a machine for your target group.
To cite ifixit's evaluation as evidence for negatives is weak at best.
With 3 years of Apple Care consumers can get one fine machine without worrying of having to repair anything.
I could understand your constant Apple bashing if you were from a competitor or had created anything we can use.
Until you do create something that is even remotely close to Apple's products, maybe you should refrain from spewing out criticism without offering a better alternative?
I kind-a gave up on the idea of having a desktop computer long time ago. So I use my current (2010 MBP 15") as my everywhere computer work/home vacation. Ethernet you're totally right about don't really remember the last time I've plugged in mine. Most of my projects are on external HDD's running FW800. In terms of 256 gb doesn't really worry me cause the current MBP is modified to 240 gb OWC + 750 GB Optibay. Which I could use without. But yeah to sum up things I think you're totally right about it I really don't need such a beast. Thanks!