No, because you have no proof.
The Sandy Bridge MBA supports third party SSDs (OWC). Many Windows-based Ultrabooks support third party SSDs and RAM.
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Roundup of Retina MacBook Pro Reviews
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The Sandy Bridge MBA supports third party SSDs (OWC). Many Windows-based Ultrabooks support third party SSDs and RAM.
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I know. The gall of some people, huh?
:cracks whip: YOU STAY IN YOUR NICHE, FOOLS!
Man...you're gonna force me to do math, aren't you?
$3000
But seriously, I wonder how big the laptop would have to get where it would no longer sell as it is prohibitively expensive.
inexpensive
Arn - Why did you leave out the opening sentence of David Pogue's review - this is the sentence that immediately precedes all those glowing adjectives:
"If you could design your dream laptop, how would you describe it?" ..
blah, blah, blah, and of course, inexpensive......
He then goes on to say, as many readers have mentioned, that the Mac has all these traits EXCEPT inexpensive.
By your leaving out the first sentence, you have created a maelstrom.
Arn - Why did you leave out the opening sentence of David Pogue's review - this is the sentence that immediately precedes all those glowing adjectives:
"If you could design your dream laptop, how would you describe it?" ..
blah, blah, blah, and of course, inexpensive......
He then goes on to say, as many readers have mentioned, that the Mac has all these traits EXCEPT inexpensive.
By your leaving out the first sentence, you have created a maelstrom.
People these days are not too bright anymore. There is a big difference between expensive and something that has a high price tag.
The new MBP is not expensive, you paying exactly what this kind of machine is worth, although it does require to put a lot of money on the table. These two things are different, otherwise buying a house would be expensive by definition.
If Apple followed that logic we would never have had a Retina iPhone or iPad. Developers aren't going to spontaneously upgrade their apps for ultra-high resolution if there are no machines to display all those pixels.
Upgraded apps will come thick and fast, anyway.
The new Pro looks like a really great laptop. I can see why they're selling so well.
For me fashionably thin, and "latest" doesn't do much. I would still buy a MBP 15 because I use FW800 and Ethernet at least a couple of times each week for file transferring and fast communication between my various Mac.
I don't use the optical drive all that much any more simply because my MP is faster at decrypting my DVDs. And it has BR.
I prefer powerful laptops so a performance model even slightly thicker than the current MBPs, with room for two HDDs as well as optical would be me a wishlist choice.
For me fashionably thin, and "latest" doesn't do much. I would still buy a MBP 15 because I use FW800 and Ethernet at least a couple of times each week for file transferring and fast communication between my various Mac.
I don't use the optical drive all that much any more simply because my MP is faster at decrypting my DVDs. And it has BR.
I prefer powerful laptops so a performance model even slightly thicker than the current MBPs, with room for two HDDs as well as optical would be me a wishlist choice.
May be Apple is leading the way of the future for CD/DVD combo drives.But PC's are sill lagging behind with not removing it
so the market is not ready at these for PC's.I'm sure alot PC people that are anti- apple are going really make fun of this for the computer being very costly and top of the line Pro computer and just for the fact that it does not have it.Also older people less computer literate will not know what do . Part of the problem is Microsoft does not have app store like Apple does.
And when most people think of app store they think it for the iOS not OS X or windows.
So the market has not revolutionized like apple has done thus people are confused.
Bad advertising , promoting and slow Microsoft to think new .May be in year or two Microsoft will have app store like apple.
May be in year or two there be big trend for all software and games for windows or OSX to be at the app store be it at apple app store or Microsoft app store for windows or OSX not just iOS.
Too expensive for what you get?
Only useful for a certain crowd (I am betting I'd agree with the one that said for the constantly on the go crowd it might be good but for everyone else the regular pro is probably enough, especially for the price and you still get an ethernet port and CD-Rom).
Not saying it's a bad machine, but for the price I am guessing that really it's only worth it to a certain crowd. I know my 13" isn't too bad for travelling (Granted it's also smaller due to being a 13"
). Anyways, I probably wouldn't mind one if I had a lot of money (which I don't). And if I were deciding between a 15" MBP and the retina one, I might go for the retina one (especially if I were to go with the top end of each cause apparently if you deck out both, the retina one is cheaper). Though honestly, the fact I can easily upgrade the regular one might sway me to just go with it (unless I was going for all the add ons in which case the savings of money to buy the retina one might make up for the fact I couldn't upgrade the retina one).
In a nutshell, all reviews say:
It's expensive, in fact its very expensive (aka a rip off), but if you buy it, you'll be happy as long as you aren't expecting it to be as light as an Air.
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I was very tempted to get one, mainly because I can hook it up to 2 screens, not for the retina option. Its the only portable Mac laptop that can be hooked up to two screens that are NOT the overpriced Apple thunderbolt displays.
I really couldn't justify the harsh price tag though, so will hold out for the next one.
It's expensive, in fact its very expensive (aka a rip off), but if you buy it, you'll be happy as long as you aren't expecting it to be as light as an Air.
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I was very tempted to get one, mainly because I can hook it up to 2 screens, not for the retina option. Its the only portable Mac laptop that can be hooked up to two screens that are NOT the overpriced Apple thunderbolt displays.
I really couldn't justify the harsh price tag though, so will hold out for the next one.
Pro as in professional photographer or videographer. They're still users, not administrators or people who even remotely care about the insides of a laptop. Nor should they, since they are already professionals at what they do.
One of these days the lottery numbers will be in my favour...
You don't need to win the lottery, you just need a decent job. $1999 (with student discount, and I am sure you have a student in your family somewhere) is just $83 per month.
If you work a full time job, you need a raise of about 48 cents per hour to pay for it without hurting your budget at all.
Or you can mow 4 neighbors lawns for $20 each on weekends, and you're just about there.
I know what you meant by the quote, but its gets a little annoying when people try to perpetuate the myth that Apple products are just for the ultra rich. If a computer is important to you, then even lower to middle class people can find room in their budgets for it.
What you get is a machine as powerful as the non-Retina Pros, but with 3 million more pixels than an HDTV. How is that too expensive for what you get? I agree that it's very pricey, but the technology is astounding and unprecedented.
You mean the crowd that has decent eyesight? That's a pretty big crowd.
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It certainly meets the "Cool" factor but I agree with Ross Miller.... you'll still be waiting a long time for developers to update apps. Some may not even bother..
I wonder if companies like Autodesk will even care to update at all.
I couldn't wait for the iPhone & iPad retina displays... for some reason I just don't care enough about the laptop. Maybe because it's so expensive?
I wonder if companies like Autodesk will even care to update at all.
I couldn't wait for the iPhone & iPad retina displays... for some reason I just don't care enough about the laptop. Maybe because it's so expensive?
Applecare. One of the reasons I'll never buy another PC. A lot of you seem to forget this. If something goes wrong and you walk into an Apple Store, I can promise you they're not going to advise you to buy another one.
Unless, of course, your imprudent self tried to remove the battery.
May be why apple did not bring out 17 ich is the cost would be $3,000 or $4,000 so they going give it time for price to come down.
The most fun with this topic was seeing people react to the first review like a lot of YouTube commenters do. They read the first half of the text, skip to the comment section and make a comment on it without reading what the review was really saying. I wonder if the guy, who wrote the article, was doing that on purpose to completely troll the impatient reader.
Congratulations! You've just been Pogue'd!
Still, I think they reflect my thoughts upon seeing this new Macbook Pro model. It's nice in a lot of ways, but going above $2,000 just seems steep. You really start to ask yourself whether you really want to spend that much on any kind of laptop. On the other hand, if it indeed can churn out some professional work, I can see the Pro editors being fine with it given they'll make that money back. Some video guys, and especially photographers are probably drooling at the thing, for good reason.
Congratulations! You've just been Pogue'd!
Still, I think they reflect my thoughts upon seeing this new Macbook Pro model. It's nice in a lot of ways, but going above $2,000 just seems steep. You really start to ask yourself whether you really want to spend that much on any kind of laptop. On the other hand, if it indeed can churn out some professional work, I can see the Pro editors being fine with it given they'll make that money back. Some video guys, and especially photographers are probably drooling at the thing, for good reason.
That's a pretty arrogant response, IMO. A computer may be important to someone, but giving his or her children an education may be important too, or getting medical treatment, or buying healthy food, etc. etc. To say that "even lower to middle class people can find room in their budgets for" a Retina MacBook Pro is very condescending.
I love Apple products, but they are expensive and far more accessible to the wealthy than less fortunate people. They're worth the money, but in a perfect world they would be cheaper so more people could enjoy them.
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It was down voted because in the very next paragraph it became clear the writer was not saying the RMBP was inexpensive.
To tell the truth, they are missing an important button in the voting system. They need an up button, a down button, and a funny button. Press that to vote on how funny the message is.