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Rumor Claims iOS 15 to Drop Support for iPhone 6s and Original iPhone SE

Other than the iPhone 6*, every iPhone model with Touch ID or Face ID has supported 6 versions of iOS. Thus, the iPhone 8 and iPhone X should support iOS 15 and 16.

* The iPhone 6 only supported 5 versions of iOS. This was an odd exception to the rule above given that the older iPhone 5s supported 6 versions of iOS.
 
legis_arvum said:
Stupid cowards. Drop support to fully functional working perfectly devices is nothing short than greedy pitiful treachery.
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Apple isn’t reducing any of your phones current features. It certainly isn’t bricking your phone and rendering it useless. I can only conclude that your problem is that you’re a drama queen with an unhealthy amount of undeserved self esteem and entitlement.
 
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6s still works great. This was obvious after launch while the 6 owners were still in audible denial that it was a meaningful update.
 
It had a pretty good run. Still using one with a new battery (3rd battery, replaced about 2~3 months ago) and it never let me down these past 5 years. You’ll have a very well deserved retirement next year my good old friend.
 
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It would not make sense for Apple to drop the A9 based iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, and first gen iPhone SE from iOS 15, while not dropping the A9 based Fifth Generation iPad, let alone the A8 based iPad mini 4 and A8X based iPad Air 2 (and that's assuming that there isn't an architectural reason to also drop the A9X based 9.7" iPad Pro or first generation 12.9" iPad Pro also) from iPadOS 15.
 
PickUrPoison said:
Maybe the EU should step in and require all cellphones to receive security updates for, say, a 15 year period. Sure, a $50 Android might have to be jacked up to $200-250, but at least it would last a long time.

Unfortunately, billions would suffer from the lack of affordable phones.
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The thing to do is tax the materials early in production according to their environmental impact and let the market handle the rest instead of going after every single end-user product. US and Europe already do this with emissions, except they trade with countries that don't.
 
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I understood when they dropped support for 32 bit phones a few years ago. I'm not so sure about dropping support so soon on the phones listed here.

They stopped shipping power adapters in the name of preventing environmental waste. It doesn't seem genuine if they turn around the next year and drop software support for a phone that can run it.
 
rjp1 said:
I understood when they dropped support for 32 bit phones a few years ago. I'm not so sure about dropping support so soon on the phones listed here.

They stopped shipping power adapters in the name of preventing environmental waste. It doesn't seem genuine if they turn around the next year and drop software support for a phone that can run it.
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What exactly is "so soon", in particular in the context of how it pretty much always worked with iPhones?

Often when a new major versions aren't made available to devices one of the bigger factors is that those older devices won't perform that well (or at all) with those newer versions.
 
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C DM said:
Often when a new major versions aren't made available to devices one of the bigger factors is that those older devices won't perform that well (or at all) with those newer versions.
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How dare you talk sense !!

If I want my phone to take 5 minutes to open the camera app or render a webpage while running the latest OS on a 5year device thats my business not Apples.

How dare they limit the OS update based on how fast "they" think is acceptable.

/Sarcasm
 
C DM said:
What exactly is "so soon", in particular in the context of how it pretty much always worked with iPhones?

Often when a new major versions aren't made available to devices one of the bigger factors is that those older devices won't perform that well (or at all) with those newer versions.
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I’d say with this new commitment to the environment on chargers - we should see a new one on phones. If the hardware is capable of running the new os, then it should be made available.

I think we’ve all seen from macOS that dropping support for devices is a business decision and not an environmental one. There are tools to install new macOS versions on hardware that is dropped from support, and it works fine.

Apple shouldn’t try to have it both ways. Commit to business or the environment, but don’t pick and choose when it only benefits them. That makes it clear they are only committed to their bottom line.

Once the phone stops getting updates, then it should no longer be used. The updates contain security fixes. Suggesting that they should continue to be used is bad advice.
 
Left my iPhone 6s Plus on the last iteration of iOS 12, and will not update if further than this. On iOS 12, my 6s Plus so fast and snappy, with amazing battery life. It has a brand new battery and lasts an amazing 2 and a half weeks on standby in airplane mode!
 
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russell_314 said:
Everyone says this but no one wants a 15 year old anything as their primary device. 13 years ago it was the original iPhone... Yeah no that's not possible to use in 2020. I bet the computer you typed this on isn't 15 years old. 14 yeas ago (2006) would be a C2D from Intel... No way that could be a practical primary computer. How about a car? Do you have a 2005 whatever as your primary car? A car might be possible to keep going that long but electronics no way. The answer is to recycle not attempt to use something forever.
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What you want and what the world has capacity to sustain may be two different things.

The job of companies in the years ahead is not going to be to sell you new stuff every year. That world is the past. Indeed they are going to have to figure out how to survive in a world where people use things longer. In many use cases yes it is going to be up to 10 years. Go back to as recent as the 1970s and early 80s that was a totally normal lifespan. That we’ve been through an unusual period of change is not the same as a new normal. The planet cannot sustsain it.

Yes there will be fewer companies and fewer retailers. And in many categories the frequency of models will go down.

Matters not if some are clueless enough to not grasp this. It’s coming - and faster than many think. Regardless of whether they like it.
 
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rjp1 said:
I’d say with this new commitment to the environment on chargers - we should see a new one on phones. If the hardware is capable of running the new os, then it should be made available.

I think we’ve all seen from macOS that dropping support for devices is a business decision and not an environmental one. There are tools to install new macOS versions on hardware that is dropped from support, and it works fine.

Apple shouldn’t try to have it both ways. Commit to business or the environment, but don’t pick and choose when it only benefits them. That makes it clear they are only committed to their bottom line.

Once the phone stops getting updates, then it should no longer be used. The updates contain security fixes. Suggesting that they should continue to be used is bad advice.
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These days security updates still seem to come out even for devices that don't get the newest major versions. The whole environmental part seems to be fairly unrelated to this.
 
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Osamede said:
What you want and what the world has capacity to sustain may be two different things.

The job of companies in the years ahead is not going to be to sell you new stuff every year. That world is the past. Indeed they are going to have to figure out how to survive in a world where people use things longer. In many use cases yes it is going to be up to 10 years. Go back to as recent as the 1970s and early 80s that was a totally normal lifespan. That we’ve been through an unusual period of change is not the same as a new normal. The planet cannot sustsain it.

Yes there will be fewer companies and fewer retailers. And in many categories the frequency of models will go down.

Matters not if some are clueless enough to not grasp this. It’s coming - and faster than many think. Regardless of whether they like it.
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I’m not sure what imaginary world you’re living in but the job of companies in the real world is to sell products. This means they sell the most amount of products they can to make the most amount of money. Sure companies do the best they can to be environmentally friendly but that doesn’t mean they don’t want to sell products. In no future world will we be using products like electronics for 15 years or more. If that happens we pretty much hit some sort of mad max/ walking dead situation where everything has gone to hell. It won’t be some CEO like Tim Cook saying “Oh gee people should keep their iPads for 15 years” 🤦‍♂️😂
 
rjp1 said:
I’d say with this new commitment to the environment on chargers - we should see a new one on phones. If the hardware is capable of running the new os, then it should be made available.

I think we’ve all seen from macOS that dropping support for devices is a business decision and not an environmental one. There are tools to install new macOS versions on hardware that is dropped from support, and it works fine.

Apple shouldn’t try to have it both ways. Commit to business or the environment, but don’t pick and choose when it only benefits them. That makes it clear they are only committed to their bottom line.

Once the phone stops getting updates, then it should no longer be used. The updates contain security fixes. Suggesting that they should continue to be used is bad advice.
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People are not going to listen to your advice, whether it’s right or wrong. People were/are still using WindowsXP and it’s way worse a sieve than iOS could hope to be.
 
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hot-gril said:
These devices are so small that it's hard for me to believe they make such a big environmental impact. One little device manufactured every 5 years per person. The damage of mining rare earth metals is the one thing I realize I might underestimate, but Apple recycles those for free if you bring in your phone. Am I missing something?
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Hell, Apple payed me to recycle my last iPhone.
 
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russell_314 said:
I’m not sure what imaginary world you’re living in but the job of companies in the real world is to sell products. This means they sell the most amount of products they can to make the most amount of money. Sure companies do the best they can to be environmentally friendly but that doesn’t mean they don’t want to sell products. In no future world will we be using products like electronics for 15 years or more. If that happens we pretty much hit some sort of mad max/ walking dead situation where everything has gone to hell. It won’t be some CEO like Tim Cook saying “Oh gee people should keep their iPads for 15 years” 🤦‍♂️😂
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1) We have all been living in an imaginary world. In the real world, our current consumption levels are not sustainable.

2) Sure companies sell stuff. In case what I said, didnt get through, I will try again: there will be less stuff bought.

3) You need to educate yourself. Go out and look at the carbon emissions , resource consumption and waste production reduction that all the major governments and companies are committing to. It adds up to selling less stuff. The value of many companies will drop because of this.
 
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