Rumor Claims iOS 15 to Drop Support for iPhone 6s and Original iPhone SE

[Osamede]

Planned obsolescence my ass. Name me one Android phone you’ll get 5+ years of updates for...

I can’t wait to see the kind of support the newer phones will get (X and newer) with how good the chips have gotten.

You seem to be under the misconception that your second sentence could in any way negate the idea of planned obsolescence by Apple. It doesn’t.

This is a lack of basic logic. It reveals that you decided the answer without thinking.

Yes a device can last X years but still be crippled from being able to last Y more years.

Folks need to start actually thinking now, because this refusal to face reality is costing us the health of our planet. We cannot afford for companies to consume huge levels of resources to make devices for this short. They probably need to be made to 10-12-15 year lifespans. Not kidding.

 

[crsh1976]

I'm amazed my 1st-gen SE still works wondefully well under iOS 14, but let's not push it too far - I don't want to live through another round like having iOS 7 cripple my old iPhone 4 back in the day, leave it behind while it's still useable.

 

[Freeangel1]

this is cool.

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[hot-gril]

Folks need to start actually thinking now, because this refusal to face reality is costing us the health of our planet. We cannot afford for companies to consume huge levels of resources to make devices for this short. They probably need to be made to 10-12-15 year lifespans. Not kidding.

These devices are so small that it's hard for me to believe they make such a big environmental impact. One little device manufactured every 5 years per person. The damage of mining rare earth metals is the one thing I realize I might underestimate, but Apple recycles those for free if you bring in your phone. Am I missing something?

 

[arvinsim]

These devices are so small that it's hard for me to believe they make such a big environmental impact. One little device manufactured every 5 years per person. The damage of mining rare earth metals is the one thing I realize I might underestimate, but Apple recycles those for free if you bring in your phone. Am I missing something?

How many people are actually bringing their phones to Apple to recycle for free?

 

[PickUrPoison]

You seem to be under the misconception that your second sentence could in any way negate the idea of planned obsolescence by Apple. It doesn’t.

This is a lack of basic logic. It reveals that you decided the answer without thinking.

Yes a device can last X years but still be crippled from being able to last Y more years.

Folks need to start actually thinking now, because this refusal to face reality is costing us the health of our planet. We cannot afford for companies to consume huge levels of resources to make devices for this short. They probably need to be made to 10-12-15 year lifespans. Not kidding.

Maybe the EU should step in and require all cellphones to receive security updates for, say, a 15 year period. Sure, a $50 Android might have to be jacked up to $200-250, but at least it would last a long time.

Unfortunately, billions would suffer from the lack of affordable phones.

 

[brgjoe]

I am amazed they supported some of these devices this long. And it's not just the support. I bought a first gen SE just to mess around with it and use it as a backup phone if need be. And I am amazed how well it runs iOS14 considering how long in the tooth it is.

So kudos to Apple to not only support devices this long, but for making devices still be able to run some of the latest software for a very long time as well.

 

[Abazigal]

You seem to be under the misconception that your second sentence could in any way negate the idea of planned obsolescence by Apple. It doesn’t.

This is a lack of basic logic. It reveals that you decided the answer without thinking.

Yes a device can last X years but still be crippled from being able to last Y more years.

Folks need to start actually thinking now, because this refusal to face reality is costing us the health of our planet. We cannot afford for companies to consume huge levels of resources to make devices for this short. They probably need to be made to 10-12-15 year lifespans. Not kidding.

Are you sure you are not trolling? Because it sure it looks like you are intentionally being obtuse.

Apple isn’t crippling their iPhones. The 6s just won’t receive any more software updates, but it can still be used, the same way an android phone that hasn’t been updated in years can still make calls and receive WhatsApp messages.

How is this forced obsolescence again?

 

[Dented]

The only reason would be security updates.

There still seem to security updates long after “support” finishes. My iPad Air (first gen, from 2013) just received a new version of iOS 12 last week.

 

[travelsheep]

Not that those times ever existed to begin with considering that modern DSLRs only came onto the market just over 20 years ago, and those early generation models are only worth a fraction of what they originally cost. Equivalent film SLRs from that era are currently worth more.

Sorry, my mistake, I meant film SLRs, thanks for nitpicking. English as second language and all, I guessed most would have not understood "Spiegelreflexkamera".

 

[aleni]

My original SE’s still running fast for casual tasks. Pretty usable in iOS 14. What a little beast! Just replaced the battery and it’s back like new again. I just need to recharge it quick when I have dinner to make it lasts until bedtime.

 

[krspkbl]

lol people complaining about dropping support. these are phones from 2015... the support Apple gives their phones is outstanding. good luck getting that with any other phone.

also your "perfectly working" device will continue to work after Apple drops support. it's not gonna brick it and you won't be forced to buy a new phone. you just won't get any new software updates.

 

[tridley68]

Makes perfect sense.

 

[Grey Area]

lol people complaining about dropping support. these are phones from 2015... the support Apple gives their phones is outstanding. good luck getting that with any other phone.

The larger capacity SE were released March 2017, so if the rumor is true it will be losing support at the age of 4.5 years. I'm ok with that, as I hardly use mine any more, but I could see some people getting miffed given the frequent claims of at least 5 years of support.

Edited to add: I know Apple makes no such guarantees, but it is a ubiquitous forum claim in iPhone vs Android arguments. iPhones are still a lot better in this regard than Android, but one needs to keep in mind that the situation is not that certain for iPhones either.

 

[Zdigital2015]

iPhone 12 mini?

He wanted one the exact same size as the iPhone SE. That’s not going to happen. The iPhone 12 mini should serve well for all but the most hardcore users. In which case they can use it under iOS 14.

 

[Hammerd]

YES!!
My 6s will deserve a full retirement party with confetti cake and party hats. It has been a workhorse and has never let me down. The latest iPhones are not yet pushing me to let go of my 6s. I'm considering waiting for next fall and hopeful for touch ID implementation.

So am I! I really want Touch ID back, that's why I hold on my 6S and 8 plus 256GB (which is my favoryte iPhone ever, it's a pure jewel) .. next year hopefully!

 

[vmistery]

The larger capacity SE were released March 2017, so if the rumor is true it will be losing support at the age of 4.5 years. I'm ok with that, as I hardly use mine any more, but I could see some people getting miffed given the frequent claims of at least 5 years of support.

Edited to add: I know Apple makes no such guarantees, but it is a ubiquitous forum claim in iPhone vs Android arguments. iPhones are still a lot better in this regard than Android, but one needs to keep in mind that the situation is not that certain for iPhones either.

I am not sure a larger capacity counts as a new phone really. Plus as the iPhone 6 is still getting iOS updates I'd expect it to still receive security updates for another year or two easily meeting the 5 year mark and likely closer to 7.

 

[russell_314]

It's good enough to use. Obviously I won't be the main photographer during a trip if someone has a newer phone, but hey, it's corona time.

Agreed. I didn't mean to criticize or say anything bad about your phone. It's probably better than my old 35mm SLR I uses to have. It had a manual focus and if you wanted to manual everything else. It was awesome! I want to get back into photography but the part I liked was having so much control over how my pictures looked.

 

[russell_314]

You seem to be under the misconception that your second sentence could in any way negate the idea of planned obsolescence by Apple. It doesn’t.

This is a lack of basic logic. It reveals that you decided the answer without thinking.

Yes a device can last X years but still be crippled from being able to last Y more years.

Folks need to start actually thinking now, because this refusal to face reality is costing us the health of our planet. We cannot afford for companies to consume huge levels of resources to make devices for this short. They probably need to be made to 10-12-15 year lifespans. Not kidding.

Everyone says this but no one wants a 15 year old anything as their primary device. 13 years ago it was the original iPhone... Yeah no that's not possible to use in 2020. I bet the computer you typed this on isn't 15 years old. 14 yeas ago (2006) would be a C2D from Intel... No way that could be a practical primary computer. How about a car? Do you have a 2005 whatever as your primary car? A car might be possible to keep going that long but electronics no way. The answer is to recycle not attempt to use something forever.

 

[mittencuh]

I hate this planned obsolence and how fanboys defend it.

I have a Intel 4770k with 97GTX that I've had since early 2013, 7 years and there hasn't been a single issue with getting the latest games, patches, software for it. I'm on the latest windows and latest everything.

I have a iMac from the same 2013 era, and cannot install Big Sur on it since 2014 is the earliest it supports. I find that absolutely ridiculous that in the Apple world, I'm stuck having to spend well over 2000 for a new iMac, whereas in the PC world, I spent only 90 bucks to fix its power supply, and it continues to this day fighting on, serving my home as a media server, and every day gaming PC that runs most AAA games > 60fps

That's one of the problems when it comes to Apple that I grotesquely hate, my parents are both on 6s and many people I know still have their 6s (and this is after the stupid battery scandal) so all have pretty much brand new 6s batteries and come next year, I'm looking at spend >$2000 for each person to get them the latest and greatest if they want X feature on some piece of new iOS version?

It's great for shareholders, but absolute garbage for consumers

You're comparing a PC with a desktop i7 and a $500 add on graphics card to an all in one with a notebook-class chipset.

Nobody is forcing you to spend $2000 on a new iMac.

If you can't tell the difference between a desktop tower PC and an Apple all in one, that's on you by this point. Since day 1 the iMac has been a compromise, but it's one that works for a huge part of the market.

 

[wood1208]

This is why I buy,use iPhone for me and my family. Apple keeps supporting older models(unlike ANDROID phones) for a long time until becomes irrelevant for not all but most iPhone users. I used to be Android phone user and I have few of them sitting in my drawer because Apps stop supporting version of android because manufacturer stop supporting update.

 

[Romeo_Nightfall]

Still using 6S and no need to retire it, works perfectly. iOS 14 will be newest OS for almost year now and after that nothing dramatic happens in 1-2 years.

My iPad is running iOS 12 because support ended and works just fine. I don't know why I would need to upgrade it..

well it’s the Economy stupid

 

[Romeo_Nightfall]

This is why I buy,use iPhone for me and my family. Apple keeps supporting older models(unlike ANDROID phones) for a long time until becomes irrelevant for most people.

a wise advice. Only speak when there is knowledge. Fired up a lg g ... and it worked perfectly fine like on first day.

 

[deevey]

a wise advice. Only speak when there is knowledge. Fired up a lg g ... and it worked perfectly fine like on first day.

Did it run the latest version of Android ? Because thats the argument here

 

[Mindgap]

iPhone 6s a legend. Will use it until it falls apart.