[rumor] iphone 6s's benchmark, new resolution leaked?

[Juan007]

Hey folks, Apple didn't become the most valuable company in America by being stupid. They aren't going to launch a feature that kills battery life. IF the 6s has this super high-res display (super retina?) you can bet that Apple found a way to minimize the power impact.

Also those CPU bench scores look AMAZING. Can't wait for Wednesday.

 

[Italianblend]

Guys they need those higher resolutions to show off those newly shot 4k videos and 12 MP photos!

I mean it would be bad marketing if the photos/videos shot with the 6s would look the same on the normal 6 display

But if it's retina screen, they should all look the same.

 

[ValO]

But if it's retina screen, they should all look the same.

What is your point?

Retina means that you can' t see individual pixels. It doesn' t look grainy.
Retina hd, means you have even more pixels, that forms a more detailed picture. And you have more information in a picture.

That' s it.

 

[Italianblend]

Right, but if retina means you can't see pixels, then nothing should be able to look sharper.

 

[ValO]

Right, but if retina means you can't see pixels, then nothing should be able to look sharper.

You can see more detail, that' s it.
Try to look at a 1080p youtube versus a 4k video.
Even if your ipad or iphone doesn' t support 4k res and is playing the video on Its own res, The 4k video looks nicer.
Thats still without seeing a individual pixel on my ipad.

If i would increase the res on my ipad , i still won' t be able see individual pixels, but the image will spread over more pixels and add more detail and information to the complete image.

 

[ValO]

Perhaps this patent will make higher res displays on the 6s possible:

http://www.patentlyapple.com/patent...strates-came-to-light-in-japan-this-week.html

Apple has done a lot mire with sapphire lately in their apple watch.

 

[Glideslope]

Be well ticked off returning to iphone and battery life is on par with my Samsung phones ha

You'll be ok.

 

[recoil80]

You can see more detail, that' s it.
Try to look at a 1080p youtube versus a 4k video.
Even if your ipad or iphone doesn' t support 4k res and is playing the video on Its own res, The 4k video looks nicer.
Thats still without seeing a individual pixel on my ipad.

If i would increase the res on my ipad , i still won' t be able see individual pixels, but the image will spread over more pixels and add more detail and information to the complete image.

True, but more pixels require more CPU/GPU power.
I don't see it happening this year but maybe next year with a new design and maybe a slightly different aspect ratio, who knows.
I'd like more ppi but is not a priority for me at this time.

 

[ValO]

True, but more pixels require more CPU/GPU power.
I don't see it happening this year but maybe next year with a new design and maybe a slightly different aspect ratio, who knows.
I'd like more ppi but is not a priority for me at this time.

Just explainind the difference between retina and ultra high res displays.I also don' t think it will happen this year. I am hopefull though. But 2001x1125 for the 6s is too much in one jump and would put it on top of the market.
Iphone 6s+ that would be possible though.
The 2208x1242 will reguire the same cpu and gpu power as is used on the 6+.
The 6 plus already renders it internally as 2208x1242 now, and than scales it back to 1920x1080p.
Without the additional job of scaling it back to a lower res, even the regular a8 could be faster on 2208x1242 than it is on 1920x1080 now.
So i think the 6s+ will have a 2k screen of 2208x1242. The reg 6+ should have gotten that res, i think.


I am still hoping for the iphone 6 to get a 1704x960 res though.
Before the introduction of the iphone 6, there were rumors about that res.
And the last years, rumors were thought to be false, but came true, a year later.
Ipad mini? Iphone pro, ipad pro, etc.

 

[soupcan]

You can see more detail, that' s it.
Try to look at a 1080p youtube versus a 4k video.
Even if your ipad or iphone doesn' t support 4k res and is playing the video on Its own res, The 4k video looks nicer.
Thats still without seeing a individual pixel on my ipad.

If i would increase the res on my ipad , i still won' t be able see individual pixels, but the image will spread over more pixels and add more detail and information to the complete image.

Partly true, but forcing 4K on a device that doesn't have 4K also has another benefit: it forces the YouTube player to stream the video at a higher bitrate, so even if you don't have a 4K display your video will look a whole lot nicer because of the higher bitrate.

 

[ValO]

Partly true, but forcing 4K on a device that doesn't have 4K also has another benefit: it forces the YouTube player to stream the video at a higher bitrate, so even if you don't have a 4K display your video will look a whole lot nicer because of the higher bitrate.

True,

And that is why you need 2gb!

 

[soupcan]

True,

And that is why you need 2gb!

Again, partially true, but again not really, since not all of the buffered video is kept in memory. After a bit is buffered and played it's removed from memory to make room for other things, hence the fact that it buffers again when you scroll back.

 

[ValO]

Again, partially true, but again not really, since not all of the buffered video is kept in memory. After a bit is buffered and played it's removed from memory to make room for other things, hence the fact that it buffers again when you scroll back.

You try too fast forward a 1080p youtube on a ipad air vs ipad air2.
You' ll notice the difference between 1 gb and 2gb.

But off topic

 

[iMacmatician]

The clock speed increase from 1.4 GHz to 1.8 GHz may not be unrealistic given that the A9 is expected to use 14/16 nm FinFET process. The claimed A9 Geekbench scores are about 9% higher than the A8 (iPhone 6) Geekbench scores after accounting for the clock speed difference, which is similar to what happened from the A7 to A8 transition (6%-7% per-clock). That's in contrast to some earlier claimed scores that did not show a per-clock increase.

                  Clock    Single-core  Multi-core

A8 (iPhone 6)     1.4 GHz  1610         2883
A9                1.8 GHz  2248         4036

Ratio             1.29x    1.40x        1.40x
Per-clock ratio            1.09x        1.09x

Thus I think the scores are reasonable, whether or not they are real. Also, with this level of single-threaded improvement, I don't think Apple has a need to go over 2 cores in the A9.

The 2000x1125 resolution is odd because it is one vertical pixel off from a pixel tripling of 667x375 (2001x1125). That almost makes it look more real to me because I presume that anyone making a fake screenshot of a 3x resolution would have just used 2001x1125. Still, I have doubts that the resolutions would increase again so soon.

 

[DBZmusicboy01]

because of down sampling ?

So it also means the regular 6 native display is actually much closer to 1080 resolution

 

[Phil A.]

Not exactly - the screen itself is physically 1920 x 1080 pixels (the iPhone 6 screen is 1334 x 750 pixels). Content for the iPhone 6+ is rendered at 2208 x 1242 and then downsampled to fit the physical resolution of the screen.

This page explains it all pretty clearly: http://www.paintcodeapp.com/news/iphone-6-screens-demystified

 

[KenAFSPC]

A 2208x1242 display would slightly improve sharpness. That said, the downsampling on the iPhone 6 Plus is performed by dedicated hardware on the A8 chip with no performance penalty.

 

[XTheLancerX]

A 2208x1242 display would slightly improve sharpness. That said, the downsampling on the iPhone 6 Plus is performed by dedicated hardware on the A8 chip with no performance penalty.

I'm pretty dang sure it would improve performance if this process wasn't happening. That dedicated hardware that's being used is exactly the same as what's being used in the smaller iPhone 6 with no downsampling process. The iPhone 6 has a LOT less performance issues than the 6 Plus.

 

[Gav2k]

A 2208x1242 display would slightly improve sharpness. That said, the downsampling on the iPhone 6 Plus is performed by dedicated hardware on the A8 chip with no performance penalty.

If that were true there wouldn't be the performance difference between the 6/6+ unfortunately there is quite a margin

 

[nordique]

Oh wow, its an exciton few weeks ahead of us for sure. ^ If these geek bench scores are true, this is a very nice processor upgrade over the 5s-6 processor range, an "expected S model" spec bump I suppose.

Coupled with the rumoured RAM increase, it should make for a very fast device. I find the 5s/6 to be fast enough as it is, for my means.

Here's hoping that Apple does in fact bring a darker space grey colour to the 6s, rather than the same 3 finishes as some sites have been mentioning in their event "what to expect" roundups.

A resolution increase is much more plausible to me than a new display type; only a few days away now!

 

[KenAFSPC]

If that were true there wouldn't be the performance difference between the 6/6+ unfortunately there is quite a margin

The difference is due to rendering at 2208x1242 vs. 1334x750, which means pushing far more pixels with the same hardware (=significant performance penalty). There is no performance penalty associated with downscaling from 2208x1242 to 1920x1200 because the integrated GX6450 GPU has dedicated circuitry to perform that function.

 

[redheeler]

I really hope the display on the 6s+ will be native 2208x1242. Non-native resolutions should be avoided if at all possible, and I'm surprised Apple released the 6+ the way they did.

 

[ValO]

The difference is due to rendering at 2208x1242 vs. 1334x750, which means pushing far more pixels with the same hardware (=significant performance penalty). There is no performance penalty associated with downscaling from 2208x1242 to 1920x1200 because the integrated GX6450 GPU has dedicated circuitry to perform that function.

A different perspective:

If the native internal res of the iphone 6+ was also 1920x1080, just like the display, it would be running faster than it is now.

And if the 6+ display was really 2208x1242 just like its internal res, it would be running just as fast as the 6+ now on 1080p.

So there is a performance or picture quality hit, just a matter of perspective.

 

[HighTechToid]

Yes, that is true. The higher the res and ppi, the better the black will be. Because it takes more powerfull backlight to light the individual pixels. There would be less backlight bleading.

Ahh i don' t know what i am talking about. Read something like that somewhere.....

As I was reading this I was thinking to myself, ' that makes no sense because a more powerful backlight on an LCD would only be brighter and make the black colors look even more gray'...

And then I got to end of your post and laughed because you admitted what I was thinking

Kudos lol

 

[ectospheno]

You do realize that retina display is just a marketing term right?

That's true. Apple made up that term. It is also true your eye has a minimum arc at which it can distinguish two points.