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There’s absolutely no reason for Apple to continue the yearly refresh cycles right now. I hope they shift to a 2 year one. It would benefit both the consumers as well as the environment.
You dont have to buy the latest MBP every year. You have an M1. If the environment is a concern people can just not upgrade to the newest chip. No one will know the difference between M1 and M2 anyway.
 
Late 2023 3nm iPhone and Macbook Air
Mid 2024 3nm iPad Pro and Macbook Pro
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There’s absolutely no reason for Apple to continue the yearly refresh cycles right now. I hope they shift to a 2 year one. It would benefit both the consumers as well as the environment.

You can put yourself on a 10 year update cycle if you care about the environment enough.
You don't need Apple holding your hand.
 
Like I said, the AX also wasn’t on a 12-month schedule.

Why would updating them more frequently be more profitable?
I only argue and write about M2/Pro/Max/Extreme not being skipped (all probably based on A15), don't care about Ax in general a trying to fit schedules together.
 
M3 might launch with RT cores for real time raytracing. Is a reason they might skip M2 variants for their flagship Mac Pro.

They have caught considerable flack for the lack of RT cores (Even though the situation is same for AMD pretty much..) I GUESS that is the risk they carry for doing the integrated GPU/CPU/RAM.


Also, China is experiencing major disruptions with covid shutdowns and whatnot.


I wouldn`t be surprised to see them skip the release of a full M2 variant line in 2022. Perhaps they do lower end M2 Pro/Max and high end M3 Ultra/Extreme in march with a release of MacBook Pro AND M3 Mac Pro instead of M2.

An M2 Mac Pro that cannot compete with Nvidia RTX options is not gonna land well, so I bet you we will see something along those lines.
 
Makes total sense, the M1 Pro/Max MBPs are still the king of the hill and a heck of a lot of firepower; why bother cannibalizing sales of those? Might as well as squeeze another half a year of sales out of them.
 
I mean… you could just get a new battery for $199 (they might lower that if they see it's swelling).
The battery swelling has warped the laptop to the point that it doesn't sit flat on a desk anymore, so I'm guessing the cost to repair would be a lot more than $199, unfortunately.
 
I mean, I see where you are coming from, but some people rely on speed where a 5% to 10% in speed taken over the course of a year would quickly pay the cost of a new computer every year.
Dropping $1,500+ per year for a 5%-10% speed increase over an already fast M processor is definitely not worth it unless you're swimming in cash.
 
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I read the report that Apple lost a recent negotiation with TSMC about a price hike. Maybe this is just Apple sticking it to TSMC a bit by not moving some models to a chip that's more expensive to make?

Apple has no pressing need to refresh the MacBook Pro line - a minor M2 bump won't get many sales to M1 owners and for new owners the M1 options are still ahead of Windows laptops.
 
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What lockdowns? Has been months right?
China‘s zero covid strategy has not been working.


 
Not surprised at all. I for one was leery about the M2 coming to the MacBook Pro since it offered little benefit and once Apple discovered the die combining issues related to the M1 I figured the same design issues were already implemented in M2 so M3 was going to be the next gen processor for the MacBook Pro and the Mac Pro that addresses this problem.
 
China‘s zero covid strategy has not been working.



Thanks ... today's news in the second link wasn't known when I posted my inquiry earlier this morning. But I did notice front page of M.R. where I see mention of delays related to the lock downs.

Cheers.
 
Not surprised at all. I for one was leery about the M2 coming to the MacBook Pro since it offered little benefit and once Apple discovered the die combining issues related to the M1 I figured the same design issues were already implemented in M2 so M3 was going to be the next gen processor for the MacBook Pro and the Mac Pro that addresses this problem.
What do you mean by "die combining issues"? I know they combine two M1 Max's to get an M1 Ultra, but I've not heard of any issues with that.

Here's what I get with Google:
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There’s absolutely no reason for Apple to continue the yearly refresh cycles right now. I hope they shift to a 2 year one. It would benefit both the consumers as well as the environment.
In fact, for most Mac owners, more frequent refreshes would do the opposite. And biannual refreshes (which they used to offer for the MBPs) are even better than annual ones.

With a 2-year refresh cycle, on average the computer you're buying has year-old tech. With a 6-month refresh, the tech is an average of 3 months old. The latter provides an obvious benefit to the consumer. In addition, it benefits the environment because, on average, the consumer is buying newer tech, thus giving the computer more years of service before it needs to be replaced because it's become too slow to run the latest software.

It only harms the environment if consumers somehow feel compelled to upgrade their Macs every time Apple releases a refresh, and who does that? The only place you see that behavior to any significant extent is with iPhones, where Apple offers a yearly replacement plan. But it does not have such plans for the Mac.
 
A rather strange decision by Apple, because during this period no one will buy a macbook pro on m1, I will definitely wait until March to buy an updated one, respectively, apple will lose profits and slow down sales. Why wait? Everyone loses time and money because of this.
 
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A rather strange decision by Apple, because during this period no one will buy a macbook pro on m1, I will definitely wait until March to buy an updated one, respectively, apple will lose profits and slow down sales. Why wait? Everyone loses time and money because of this.
There will always be a later model coming out. The vast majority of users don't live in this forum, and have a different mindset.

Buy what you need, when you need it. There's good offers to be had now, 10%-20% off. I garantee you their will be a 10-20% price INCREASE when the m2 pros come out next year. at which point you're looking at up to 40% value proposition difference, plus 6 months use of an m1. they will not be that much faster, heck there's only a tiny portion of work loads that max out an m1 system right now.
 
There will always be a later model coming out. The vast majority of users don't live in this forum, and have a different mindset.

Buy what you need, when you need it. There's good offers to be had now, 10%-20% off. I garantee you their will be a 10-20% price INCREASE when the m2 pros come out next year. at which point you're looking at up to 40% value proposition difference, plus 6 months use of an m1. they will not be that much faster, heck there's only a tiny portion of work loads that max out an m1 system right now.
No, I will lose the same money on the sale then. So I won't win anything. According to preliminary information, there will be faster memory, and this is very important. There is no point in investing in M1 right now, I need an expensive configuration, so I will definitely wait until March.
 
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