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5.8" screen with only 5.1-5.2 area being touch sensitive? Is this another one of those features from the same basket which contained the idea to have speaker holes at the top of the new Macbook, but actual speakers being located closer to the touchpad?

5.1" vertical device height. 5.8" diagonal display size. And once again, the real speakers in 13" 2016 MBP are underneath as there's nowhere else to put them and to prevent against spill-damage. The aesthetic holes are not up front as separated from the keyboard area the machine would look visually unbalanced. Furthermore they are put there to give the machine a matching look to the 15" model.
 
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I'm still not sure what he means exactly. I see a couple possibilities:

  • The fact the screen curves around the edge means it's larger than it looks from the front. It's a 5.8" screen, but only looks like 5.2" if you ignore the Z axis.
  • The screen is 5.8", but smaller bezels mean the device itself is roughly the size of an iPhone with current bezels and a 5.2" screen.
  • The screen is 5.8", but a portion of it isn't used for the main content, but rather for a virtual home button or other semi-permanent content (think Android on-screen buttons).
  • The screen is actually 5.2", but the flexible display component (with the edges fitting inside the device) measures 5.8".
 
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Today's 4.7 are 5.4" tall. So up-to 1/3" smaller.

Too bad for users like me though as I'm an SE small phone advocate. It'd still be too big. If this is the case they could easily replace their 3 phone sizes with 2.
Eh? The sizes are always the diagonal of the display or aren't they? It will have more "display" and since it's edge-to-edge we get almost the same size. But yeah, they won't get any smaller any time soon.
 
Once again, in order to get the latest technology, users have no choice but to pay for the top line model. Apple does this currently between the regular and Plus versions; now there will be a third tier? That sucks.

I much prefer Samsung and Google's method of a no compromise smaller model.
A larger battery and screen should be the only key differences.
 
Eh? The sizes are always the diagonal of the display or aren't they?
They are. And sizes of device are not.
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All I want is a 4.7" display in a 5S sized phone.

You want a quantum phone? I'd say you might get 4.5" in there at most and then chop a bit of chin and forehead. That's what I want too. My big wish is they keep the thickness of it however.
 
You want a quantum phone? I'd say you might get 4.5" in there at most and then chop a bit of chin and forehead. That's what I want too. My big wish is they keep the thickness of it however.

Meh, it's possible if TouchID is built into the display.
 
So, what will it be?
  • Magical Retina display
  • Ultra HD Retina display
  • Retina Pro display
  • Retina s display
  • Super duper mega high res Retina display
  • Retina 180 display (curved)

No it will be just Retina based on new technology OLED technology that will be revolutionary. Why? Because Apple said so and so it shall be.

All hail APPLE!
 
Meh, it's possible if TouchID is built into the display.

The phone would be physically wider with 4.7" I'm thinking, irrespective of where you shove Touch ID. My big worry is the mess up the Home button experience. If it's not one press and completely intuitive they blew it—getting rid of the Home button is a really difficult problem to solve. Every suggestion I've seen has pitfalls.
 
No it will be just Retina based on new technology OLED technology that will be revolutionary. Why? Because Apple said so and so it shall be.

All hail APPLE!

Are you OK?
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The phone would be physically wider with 4.7" I'm thinking, irrespective of where you shove Touch ID. My big worry is the mess up the Home button experience. If it's not one press and completely intuitive they blew it—getting rid of the Home button is a really difficult problem to solve.

4.7" display is 58mm wide, iPhone 5S is 58.6mm wide.
 
Please make a new phone again (someday) that is smaller than the physical size of the current 4.7" models

I absolutely adore my SE but also recognize that it won't last forever.

(Just spec bumping the SE over time is fine by me too)
 
No it will be just Retina based on new technology OLED technology that will be revolutionary. Why? Because Apple said so and so it shall be.

All hail APPLE!

OLED now is not OLED 5 years ago, so waiting for the tech to be perfected (they were pretty bad until last 2 years) and yields/quality go higher (Apple needs to produce more than 1 million phone) before actually using it IS WHAT APPLE DOES.

Seems you actually have no clue what Apple's philosophy actually is.
 
The best way to read this is he doesn't have a clue and is just throwing out any rumor that comes his way.
 
What matters is that whatever screen area is covered by pixel elements leads to the size designation for the phone. So, like if the screen has a 5.1" diagonal measurement, they call it a 5.1" screen. Now if they make it with curved glass with a short radius, there is all kinds of room to lie about the screen size.

What really matters is that an all glass phone won't bounce.
 
There's clearly a few designs floating around. Didn't other rumours indicate manufacturers were struggling to produce enough OLED displays? Apple must have a Plan B. In a few months it should become clear what's happening, when the designs are signed off and the phones start to be made.
 
I'm not sure, but I think it indicates the shape of the screen will change. I suspect the screen may stretch to cover the top and bottom bezel, where the speaker and Home button are now. However, this area may not be "active", as in apps cannot extends down into those areas, but perhaps the OS uses the real estate somehow. The screen may also wrap a little further around the sides. Effectively bezel-less. That's how I'm reading it.

This reminded of when I had my Nexus 5. It had digital home, back, and app drawer buttons at the bottom of the screen but apps couldn't use that space, unless they invoked a special "full screen" feature which you had to manually activate in each app that used it. I could see that happening here as well.
 
They will make it with USB-C instead of lightning and so thin that the battery needs to be removed, then they'll sell you:

- an external battery with a proprietary connection for 299$ (349€ in Europe, 499£ in the UK);
- a lightning cable on one side and that proprietary connection on the other for 29$ (49€ in Europe, 79£ in the UK);
- a dongle USB-C - lightning for 49$ (79€ in europe 99£ in the UK)

Consumers will love it!

/s

On a serious note, when Shiller will come up on stage saying: "We made it 15% thinner than the iPhone7" IMHO half the audience should stand, throw him some tomatoes and leave the theatre...
 
so basically they will release the iphone 7s/7s plus at the current price and a new phone that everyone will want and will be more expensive.
 
Once again, in order to get the latest technology, users have no choice but to pay for the top line model. Apple does this currently between the regular and Plus versions; now there will be a third tier? That sucks.

I much prefer Samsung and Google's method of a no compromise smaller model.
A larger battery and screen should be the only key differences.
well based on the article Apple has no supplier that can produce the 100+ million they need - at the quality they want - Apple would probably want a DCI-P3 pressure sensitive screen and those must be very difficult to make.

They can either wait 2 years to stock up on screen inventory or release what they have - will see.
 
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