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And which vital sign is going to help you? Pulse-not really, you'll know if your pulse is a problem if you start having palpitations, chest pain etc. Blood pressure-not really either, its really symptoms that matter not a reading. Also, Bp probably won't be able to be measured using this watch. Hmmm temperature, again fairly useless. This may be good for triathletes, marathon runners etc, but they don't buy millions of devices. It's a fairly small population (I would know, I'm one of them, and I'm also in the medical field)

Are you a medical doctor?
No. Because if he was he'd know that a patient can present with tachycardia, arrhythmia, or a TIA (among so many other things) and be completely asymptomatic.
 
Wearables are the next generation of smart technology. We've already gotten to the point where the OS has a much higher performance than is needed for a phone. Do you really need an i7 processor with, gigs of ram etc to play flappy bird and browse facebook?

The iWatch will be the first step in making the devices part of us (as creepy as it sounds). Health Monitoring via a wearable device is a BIG thing, despite people saying its not. Imagine a future where further iterations will be able to detect subtle deviations in BP or pulse and alert the wearer and or emergency medical personnel of an impending heart attack? A device that can 'smell' cancer (the technology is already here) or detect diabetes.

We're already at the point where we've mastered the 'phone' part of smart devices, so this is the next logical step.

Hip / Cool / Trendy kids don't care..........
They never have cared, they do stupid things, think they are immortal etc.
Anyone 20+ or got forbid 30+ is so ancient as to be unthinkable.

Monitoring health, irrespective of how good when you have your sensible head on, is not going to be a cool/hip/trendy thing to have and show off ownership of.
Doing stupid things may in fact impress more than healthy things.

Can't imagine Apple wants to aim at the iPensioner market.
It may well offer health monitoring as well, but it has to have a MUST HAVE main feature that makes everyone want one as it's primary function.
 
Hip / Cool / Trendy kids don't care..........
They never have cared, they do stupid things, think they are immortal etc.
Anyone 20+ or got forbid 30+ is so ancient as to be unthinkable.

Monitoring health, irrespective of how good when you have your sensible head on, is not going to be a cool/hip/trendy thing to have and show off ownership of.
Doing stupid things may in fact impress more than healthy things.

Can't imagine Apple wants to aim at the iPensioner market.
It may well offer health monitoring as well, but it has to have a MUST HAVE main feature that makes everyone want one as it's primary function.

The watch aspect of it will cover the hip/trendy part of it. All the kids will say look I can see my notifications, play music, take pictures, pay for things-- all from my wrist! Besides apple is not really in the game of simply marketing to teenagers.

The fitness aspect of it should be important to anyone over the age of 20+. I know for most physically active people over the age of 20, the heartrate/bp monitor could be extremely useful for people doing cardio or playing sports, especially if they combine it with monitoring steps taken. It could be EXTREMELY useful for increasing physical fitness and setting new goals.
 
The watch aspect of it will cover the hip/trendy part of it. All the kids will say look I can see my notifications, play music, take pictures, pay for things-- all from my wrist! Besides apple is not really in the game of simply marketing to teenagers.

The fitness aspect of it should be important to anyone over the age of 20+. I know for most physically active people over the age of 20, the heartrate/bp monitor could be extremely useful for people doing cardio or playing sports, especially if they combine it with monitoring steps taken. It could be EXTREMELY useful for increasing physical fitness and setting new goals.

Would be good if it were true
I suspect any fitness aspect would probably soon be added to the ranks of the many other fitness products on the market people buy with good intentions and lose interest.
If you think wearing an Apple device can revere the trend of the past few decades then I hope you are right.
Americans above all others on this planet need this the most.
 
Health Care cost is about 18% of the US GDP. Most common health issues are preventable with early diagnosis and life style/habits. This is a big deal.
 
Would be good if it were true
I suspect any fitness aspect would probably soon be added to the ranks of the many other fitness products on the market people buy with good intentions and lose interest.
If you think wearing an Apple device can revere the trend of the past few decades then I hope you are right.
Americans above all others on this planet need this the most.

Apple tends to do things "right," when they release their flagship products. Remember there were a bunch of touchscreen phones out before iPhone but they were all crap (clunky, unresponsive, etc) and when Apple released iPhone they blew it out of the water. I think the same could be said with the smart-watch market right now.

I've been outspoken in regards to how crappy iOS7 was, but if they can get this right - they will be on a good path in the future. If they blow it, I would be worried about the future of Apple, considering the direction its been going in over the past year.
 
Apple tends to do things "right," when they release their flagship products. Remember there were a bunch of touchscreen phones out before iPhone but they were all crap (clunky, unresponsive, etc) and when Apple released iPhone they blew it out of the water. I think the same could be said with the smart-watch market right now.

I've been outspoken in regards to how crappy iOS7 was, but if they can get this right - they will be on a good path in the future. If they blow it, I would be worried about the future of Apple, considering the direction its been going in over the past year.

Oh yes, indeed.
However I'd wager people are using the phones more to take photo's post comments to chat sites, tell their friends what they are doing and all the social stuff as they stare at them, and not for the majority doing anything health related.
Health is boring until you have something wrong with you.
It will be interesting to see what the big draw is going to be.

Something to replace the need for carrying the phone perhaps, we don't really want ANOTHER thing to have to carry

iWatch
iPhone
iPad
MacBook

Sheesh.
 
My wife is extremely fit, walks six to seven miles each day, but unfortunately has a severe low blood sugar (glucose) level problem at the moment and has collapsed twice with an ambulance called each time.

She's since had several visits to the doctor and three visits to the not-so-local hospital to sat in line for blood sugar tests. The tests are being done in a way to try to isolate the problem, a bit like Indians circling round the wagon train, which is a rather hit-and-miss way of doing it.

I love the idea of being able to monitor glucose levels, so where do I sign up?

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Correct. Each time you go to a doctor and tested it's only for a snapshot at that time. It's better to monitor and have recorded results every day. Then triggers can be identified and a treatment/prevention plan can be formulated.

This is big. The ability to also correlate with other data such as weather, humidity, smog levels etc. is very valuable.
 
I can see a day where everyone has to wear a health monitor else pay a fine for not wearing one.
No, that could never happen in a truly civilized country.
 
Or they can announce it without releasing it.

It's very rare that Apple does this.

Also, the more I hear about the iWatch, the less I'm interested in it. A smart watch has a lot of potential, I think, and Samsung was way off the mark (a camera, really? Who the hell wants a camera on their wrist?) and from the sound of the rumors so far, it sounds like Apple is way off the mark, too. Pebble sounds best so far, but the price is too high for too little.
 
Well, hydration is just measured from skin conductivity 2 electrodes is all you need.
Glucose - sorry but there are already continuous monitoring devices that you wear on your arm - they effectively pull the glucose out of your skin and measure it - i.e. needle less - not cheap at moment and quite specialised.
BP is difficult without a cuff to occlude the artery - and afiak no one is talking about the watch having an inflatable cuff, however my understanding they have hiring people expert in infrared detection of veins, well if you can find veins and arteries, you can certainly measure Oxygen Sat, pulse, and you might be able to measure some form of pressure - id need to look this up.
Ok - accuracy might be an issue, but thats just a case of money.
whether they do any of this is doubtful - again i think its more likely to act as a hub for other devices.

To my understanding, I don't think I've ever seen a way of measuring glucose non-invasively, O2 sat through the arm or NIBP without a cuff. But I agree with your idea that it's likely to act as a hub.
 
Not really surprising considering the links to the Nike Fuelband. But it will be interesting to see if this iWatch, if they make it, ends up as a real smart watch device, or just a smart health watch that only gives you notifications etc.

I'm getting a nice Tissot Racing Touch for my birthday :) what's funny is Tissot have the trademark for 'smartwatch', which they put on their T-Touch models, yet they don't make any real smart watch's like the Galaxy Gear.

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It's very rare that Apple does this.

You never know, they did it with the Mac Pro.
 
There is a lot of hardware/software that essentially does this. Nike fuel band and others are example. In principle the idea seems to make sense -- place the sensors in a watch-like device and have it communicate with an app on the iPhone to store and track the measurements. The problem I am having is putting all that personal information in reach of the NSA.

Seriously, I don't think I am being over the top. With all the issues in the news about NSA, the target credit card hack and others, it is clear that your information is not very secure on-line. So given that why would I want to add my health information in so easy reach of pretty much everyone?

If Apple does this correctly, they will have to do something like what they are doing with the fingerprint -- store it in such a way so that it cannot be hacked and stolen.
 
To my understanding, I don't think I've ever seen a way of measuring glucose non-invasively, O2 sat through the arm or NIBP without a cuff. But I agree with your idea that it's likely to act as a hub.

keep up! :D

Just Google - continuous glucose monitor or transdermal glucose monitor - there are loads of systems. some admittedly use a tiny needle, some micro abrade the top layer of skin to get a better signal, but there are several sensors you can buy.

Pulse ox - thats how they work?? shine a light through the body and measure the O2 based on the fact that oxyhemoglobin and deoxyhemoglobin absorb light of different wavelengths in a specific way. Ok its usually a digit as presumably its thinner but thats just a question of power of the light?

See the URL http://www.tarilian-lasertechnologies.com/index.php
looks like they have done it.

Ok realistically I don't think the iWatch will have these. It would cost thousands to have all the absolute latest tech built in and it wouldn't be that comfortable to wear - but its interesting to speculate what could be done if money wasn't an object.
 
You are so wrong. Do you know how prevalent diabetes is in America? With this, people could know they are pre diabetic before they ever would have known before. Also imagine showing a doctor your medical stats from an app on your phone.
This is the future and, if this article is true it'll be here soon.

The people knocking this piece of an idea obviously don't understand market disruption. To say there is no market today is correct. That doesn't mean there won't be next. That's Apples success pattern in general. The eat well market is growing - duh. Go into a Whole Foods market where prices are higher but the chain has tapped into a frenzy for people bettering themselves. Those who don't live in urban markets like Los Angeles have no clue how huge the market of health is... There is a paradigm shift happening. Those who are behind that curve of course are negative and clueless by default - those of us ahead of the curve will be in line day one to buy this next device - trust me - and the rest of you will be lining up two to three years later after you said and swore you'd never get one... That's a fact...
 
Would love to get readings on my blood pressure, heart rate, etc. whilst working out. So then I can more accurately track calories burned, etc. when inputting such figures into MyFitnessPal.

... While I realize products out there already exist to do this, an iWatch would be infinitely cooler :p

The NSA is probably very excited as well...
 
The NSA is probably very excited as well...

What is so scary about having your hearbeat and breathing monitored by the NSA what are they going to do with that info? I'm sure there would be protections in place to where insurance companies can't spy on you and increase your insurance by that method
 
Ok realistically I don't think the iWatch will have these. It would cost thousands to have all the absolute latest tech built in and it wouldn't be that comfortable to wear - but its interesting to speculate what could be done if money wasn't an object.

actually maybe we are getting news stories confused - perhaps none of this is going into an iWatch as such perhaps Apple has just decided to move into the healthcare monitoring marketplace. They are thinking of moving into TVs, why not healthcare - loads of medics already use Apple stuff, its a large market with expensive prices just ripe for Apples margins, its dominated by a few big players with lots of little start ups just like IT is. If I was on Apples Board - I might be saying look at all the money spent in that sector - we could clean up with our name/a bit of design and a little innovation.

Apple could come in - their brand is more well known that Keeler, Welch Alleyn, Omron etc Ok they might specialise in the home monitoring and office (out patient) device that communicates to an app on an iPad.. I can't quite see iCTscanner or iMRScanner but hey I wonder what Jonny Ive would do with the design...
 
You never know, they did it with the Mac Pro.

Yeah, there's a few exceptions I can think of:

1 - The original iPhone. My understanding is that some of the FCC documents they had to file in order to sell a phone in the US were about to enter the public domain, so rather than let people learn via that, Apple had an event to unveil it themselves.

2 - A few versions of iOS. They wanted developers to already have their apps updated to take advantage of the new features, so they revealed the new iOS when they released the first beta.

3 - The Mac Pro. Professional customers and businesses were leaving Apple for other brands. Doing so would mean they would have to adjust their workflows to fit PCs. It's an expensive transition to make - doubly so if you have to make it twice. So Apple revealed that the update was coming so that professional customers and businesses knew that Apple had plans and that they shouldn't abandon Apple yet (lest they decide it's too expensive to come back later.)
 
The people knocking this piece of an idea obviously don't understand market disruption. To say there is no market today is correct. That doesn't mean there won't be next. That's Apples success pattern in general. The eat well market is growing - duh. Go into a Whole Foods market where prices are higher but the chain has tapped into a frenzy for people bettering themselves. Those who don't live in urban markets like Los Angeles have no clue how huge the market of health is... There is a paradigm shift happening. Those who are behind that curve of course are negative and clueless by default - those of us ahead of the curve will be in line day one to buy this next device - trust me - and the rest of you will be lining up two to three years later after you said and swore you'd never get one... That's a fact...

Just think it's funny that today apparently you need a device as you are to stupid to understand you need not to eat GIANT amounts of food and sit on your fat ass all day and get fat.
Do you really need Apps to compensate for thick people?
 
What is so scary about having your hearbeat and breathing monitored by the NSA what are they going to do with that info? I'm sure there would be protections in place to where insurance companies can't spy on you and increase your insurance by that method

Keep telling yourself that...the NSA will use this to improve the accuracy of their drone strikes.
 
Oh yes, indeed.
However I'd wager people are using the phones more to take photo's post comments to chat sites, tell their friends what they are doing and all the social stuff as they stare at them, and not for the majority doing anything health related.
Health is boring until you have something wrong with you.
It will be interesting to see what the big draw is going to be.

Something to replace the need for carrying the phone perhaps, we don't really want ANOTHER thing to have to carry

iWatch
iPhone
iPad
MacBook

Sheesh.

Health isn't boring if you are a smart human being. Moreover, if you struggle to carry an iWatch around on your wrist, I hope it can detect the problems that are wrong with your brain.

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Just think it's funny that today apparently you need a device as you are to stupid to understand you need not to eat GIANT amounts of food and sit on your fat ass all day and get fat.
Do you really need Apps to compensate for thick people?

It's not the amount of food and lack of exercise that make people obese. In fact exercise has been shown to have little impact on weight for most. Ignorance, and the overconsumption of highly processed, sugar filled foods, with far too many refined carbohydrates, is the problem.

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actually maybe we are getting news stories confused - perhaps none of this is going into an iWatch as such perhaps Apple has just decided to move into the healthcare monitoring marketplace. They are thinking of moving into TVs, why not healthcare - loads of medics already use Apple stuff, its a large market with expensive prices just ripe for Apples margins, its dominated by a few big players with lots of little start ups just like IT is. If I was on Apples Board - I might be saying look at all the money spent in that sector - we could clean up with our name/a bit of design and a little innovation.

Apple could come in - their brand is more well known that Keeler, Welch Alleyn, Omron etc Ok they might specialise in the home monitoring and office (out patient) device that communicates to an app on an iPad.. I can't quite see iCTscanner or iMRScanner but hey I wonder what Jonny Ive would do with the design...

Oh dear god. This is Apple's wearable. It is a device they will market, and sell. It is the 'iWatch' or whatever official name it will be called.

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It's very rare that Apple does this.

Also, the more I hear about the iWatch, the less I'm interested in it. A smart watch has a lot of potential, I think, and Samsung was way off the mark (a camera, really? Who the hell wants a camera on their wrist?) and from the sound of the rumors so far, it sounds like Apple is way off the mark, too. Pebble sounds best so far, but the price is too high for too little.

LOL. Hilarious. Apple is the only one who gets it at all. Sad paragraph.
 
It's not the amount of food and lack of exercise that make people obese. In fact exercise has been shown to have little impact on weight for most. Ignorance, and the overconsumption of highly processed, sugar filled foods, with far too many refined carbohydrates, is the problem.


Eating more calories than you are burning up is the problem.

America's fast food GIANT portions at meal times, and driving places, sitting at desks, at computers or on the couch in the evening.

The most exersize walking to the car and back.

Youngsters don't generally care are they are by nature much more active, and have fast metabolisms, so can eat loads of junk and burn it off (within reason)
 
What is so scary about having your hearbeat and breathing monitored by the NSA what are they going to do with that info? I'm sure there would be protections in place to where insurance companies can't spy on you and increase your insurance by that method

It'll be that much easier for them to confirm you're dead after the drone strike. :)

Speaking of drones; look out in the coming years for improvements in laser technology. There will be a time when a drone won't need to fire a missile to kill someone, they'll just "laser" them to death. Less collateral damage = increased use of technology. Mark my words; it's coming.

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I'll be interested to see the design. The Samsung Gear is decidedly masculine looking and bulky. I'm imaging that Apple will want to make a watch that is more beautiful and gender neutral.

However if it has a health-aspect then people will want to wear it when they work out. Something that is fashionable may not be durable enough for athletics.

It'll be interesting to see how they meld all of this into a product for the masses.
 
2010
Apple Corporation recently announced that they were going to release a tablet computer called iPad, there was a surprising lack of excitement and enthusiasm from the general electronic consumer communities; referring it simply as a big version of an iPhone/iTouch, arguing why should they need something that sits between an Apple Mac computer and an iPhone?

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