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Take time Apple. No need to hurry. Secure it, patent everything. I dont want parasite will be sucking Apple innovation.
 
Oh boy, another app I can't delete. Newsstand, meet healthbook.

You won't have to try to delete it you may not see it but iCloud persistence will dominate at some point. Look at apps now, but with Apple's Apps they will still be operational. Fully, operational. Apple's Apps will be in a category all by themselves and cloud managed. That's my prediction! Sure delete the icon if it makes you feel better. What an NSA treasure trove!
 
Eating more calories than you are burning up is the problem.

America's fast food GIANT portions at meal times, and driving places, sitting at desks, at computers or on the couch in the evening.

The most exersize walking to the car and back.

Youngsters don't generally care are they are by nature much more active, and have fast metabolisms, so can eat loads of junk and burn it off (within reason)

You know literally nothing about human nutrition. Lol sorry to say.
 
So bluetooth must be ON at all times? Given my 5S battery life.. I am afraid the the next phone will have a shorter battery life than the watch!!

Apple stop slimming the phone.. it makes no sense and is actually ridiculous. It just doesn't feel right.

Go back to iPhone 4S for the right heft and feel@
 
Reading this rumor was painful. Hydration? Glucose? Non-invasive blood pressure? All of this in a watch? It would be cool and all, and who knows where this will take us further down the road, but there's one little problem... Nobody has invented an accurate way of measuring all this from your wrist. And of all the companies in the world, Apple definitely didn't come to mind.

So no thank you, Apple. I think I'll be sticking to my stethoscope and BP cuff for the time being.

one of their recent hires was someone who made a working prototype of microneedles that measured blood chemistry. That tech will come soon, if apple releases it, i'm sure it will be pretty accurate.
 
Just think it's funny that today apparently you need a device as you are to stupid to understand you need not to eat GIANT amounts of food and sit on your fat ass all day and get fat.
Do you really need Apps to compensate for thick people?

Your argument doesn't make sense. It's a product that provides convenience and many people will be swayed by that. Whether it really gives them a health advantage or not.

Many of the products we use have a convenience aspect. The TV and especially it's remote, cars etc etc.

Just because we are able to function without a product does not mean there isn't a market for it and that it shouldn't exist.
 
Yep, could be cool, but i hifhly doubt the iwatch, or any other watch for that matter, to be able to handle blood pressure and glucose levels without some sort of add-on tools/sensors etc. Would still be pretty neat if all hooks up to the iwatch and you could get some sort of aggregated health status via the heatlhbook app.
 
Ok I'll buy it

This is the first rumor that's made me the least bit interested in an iWatch. A few years ago it wouldn't have made a difference; but now that I see the big 4-0 fast approaching, I'm starting to care about my blood pressure. That alone could be a killer app for anyone 40 and over.

If the watch could at least run fitness apps like Runkeeper without a phone present, and have them take advantage of the health sensors so they could finally monitor stationary workouts (e.g. weights, treadmills, etc.), that'd be even better.
 
I find it hard to believe they'd already have a major revision. 7.1 is not even out. Maybe they'll announce 7.2 or something but 8.0? I don't buy it.
 
You know literally nothing about human nutrition. Lol sorry to say.

Sorry, it's you who do not, or are taken in by the massive moneymaking slimming industry.

It not rocket science.

You look at your daily lifestyle, and let's say given all you do, you burn up 2000 calories.

You eat 1500 calories of food over a period of time. Don't cheat. Stick to that number and you will lose weight.

It's scientifically impossible not to.

Naturally it's best if those 1500 calories come from natural healthy balanced food and not candy and sugar drinks, but thats all there is too it.

Sorry, no magic.
 
Would love to get readings on my blood pressure, heart rate, etc. whilst working out. So then I can more accurately track calories burned, etc. when inputting such figures into MyFitnessPal.

I'm curious how is monitoring your blood pressure helping you more accurately track caloric burn?

Speaking only for myself and my wife agrees (whew) I don't see much of a functional benefit to this as a true fitness monitor over a regular one from say Polar. We will need to see the actual deliverable to know for sure, but it isn't looking like something that'll replace what we use in our routine.
 
It's not the amount of food and lack of exercise that make people obese. In fact exercise has been shown to have little impact on weight for most. Ignorance, and the overconsumption of highly processed, sugar filled foods, with far too many refined carbohydrates, is the problem.

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It not rocket science.

You look at your daily lifestyle, and let's say given all you do, you burn up 2000 calories.

You eat 1500 calories of food over a period of time. Don't cheat. Stick to that number and you will lose weight.

Naturally it's best if those 1500 calories come from natural healthy balanced food and not candy and sugar drinks, but thats all there is too it.

Sorry, no magic.

Piggie I think o0smoothies0o is trying to focus on a major cause of obesity rather than how one gains or loses weight day-to-day.

There's no denying being in a daily caloric deficit one will lose weight and consuming more calories than your adjusted RMR one will gain. I can't see how o0smoothies0o can disagree.
 
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Piggie I think o0smoothies0o is trying to focus on a major cause of obesity rather than how one gains or loses weight day-to-day.

There's no denying being in a daily caloric deficit one will lose weight and consuming more calories than your adjusted RMR one will gain. I can't see how o0smoothies0o can disagree.

It has to do with sustainability. You will not sustain a caloric deficit over long periods and the minute you resume your prior consumption habits you will put all the weight back on, but the kicker is, since in caloric deficits you tend to lose significant amounts of lean body mass, when you end up reverting back to your initial weight, and you will, you will be worse off since you will have less lean body mass and more fat (since putting on muscle is extremely difficult). Losing weight isn't the goal, the goal is to maintain lean body mass but burn off the extra fat. And don't think the solution is simply more exercise, since that will just increase your appetite.

If you want sustainable weight loss, it is far more important to focus on what you eat rather than how much.
 
It has to do with sustainability. You will not sustain a caloric deficit over long periods and the minute you resume your prior consumption habits you will put all the weight back on, but the kicker is, since in caloric deficits you tend to lose significant amounts of lean body mass, when you end up reverting back to your initial weight, and you will, you will be worse off since you will have less lean body mass and more fat (since putting on muscle is extremely difficult). Losing weight isn't the goal, the goal is to maintain lean body mass but burn off the extra fat. And don't think the solution is simply more exercise, since that will just increase your appetite.

If you want sustainable weight loss, it is far more important to focus on what you eat rather than how much.

No real disagreement from me. Cutting and sustaining weight loss (some people want to bulk too) comes from a lifestyle change.
 
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Someone above mentioned this breakthrough from Jan 2012 about a device/method to allow blood pressure to be measured using optical methods.

http://www.medgadget.com/2012/01/company-claims-optical-blood-pressure-monitor-breakthrough.html

What I find interesting is.. (from the article linked ):

"Unlike direct pressure measurement that every other BP meter does, the company’s Sapphire device uses an optical sensor to continuously measure blood pressure at the wrist. Keeping the Sapphire stationary will provide beat-to-beat readings.."

Hmm who do we know that is building plant to make lots and lots of Sapphires as a sub-component..
 
Sorry, it's you who do not, or are taken in by the massive moneymaking slimming industry.

It not rocket science.

You look at your daily lifestyle, and let's say given all you do, you burn up 2000 calories.

You eat 1500 calories of food over a period of time. Don't cheat. Stick to that number and you will lose weight.

It's scientifically impossible not to.

Naturally it's best if those 1500 calories come from natural healthy balanced food and not candy and sugar drinks, but thats all there is too it.

Sorry, no magic.

Your body will adjust its metabolism to need less per day as you decrease your intake. It's only effective in the very short term.
 
Sorry, it's you who do not, or are taken in by the massive moneymaking slimming industry.

It not rocket science.

You look at your daily lifestyle, and let's say given all you do, you burn up 2000 calories.

You eat 1500 calories of food over a period of time. Don't cheat. Stick to that number and you will lose weight.

It's scientifically impossible not to.

Naturally it's best if those 1500 calories come from natural healthy balanced food and not candy and sugar drinks, but thats all there is too it.

Sorry, no magic.

Well no this is not correct. You dont "eat calories". Calories are not a phyical component of food. They are a unit of energy measured by setting food on fire and recording the rise in temperature. You cant eat calories because they don't exist in physical form.

Addionally a calorie is not always a calorie. Depending if are digesting proteins, carbohydrates or fats the food will be digested and used by the body in differing ways.

And to that point the body does not burn calories. It chemically break down food with acid during digestion. Exercise doesn't burn calories either. As calories don't exist in physical form the body will use energy stores to fuel the body when it exerts itself.

The equation is never as simple as calories in, calories out. Humans are not cars!

The calories in, calories out "theory" was used to simplify the way humans consume energy and expend it. The theory has well been proven that it should not to be used as the basis for weight loss or gain.
 
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I bet Google and Samsung are like "come on, release the iWatch already so we can completely change our own products and release them as clones".
 
Someone above mentioned this breakthrough from Jan 2012 about a device/method to allow blood pressure to be measured using optical methods.

http://www.medgadget.com/2012/01/company-claims-optical-blood-pressure-monitor-breakthrough.html

What I find interesting is.. (from the article linked ):

"Unlike direct pressure measurement that every other BP meter does, the company’s Sapphire device uses an optical sensor to continuously measure blood pressure at the wrist. Keeping the Sapphire stationary will provide beat-to-beat readings.."

Hmm who do we know that is building plant to make lots and lots of Sapphires as a sub-component..

If what they say is true and the results accurate, this type of small sapphire device with the right software could be a revolution for the medical industry.

http://tarilian-lasertechnologies.com/technology/sapphire.php
 
all this "rumored' stuff is all well and good, but we don't even know if the iwatch is even gonna be officially this year...

Its only, "just a rumor' not a peep from Apple.
 
Well no this is not correct. You dont "eat calories". Calories are not a phyical component of food. They are a unit of energy measured by setting food on fire and recording the rise in temperature. You cant eat calories because they don't exist in physical form.

Addionally a calorie is not always a calorie. Depending if are digesting proteins, carbohydrates or fats the food will be digested and used by the body in differing ways.

And to that point the body does not burn calories. It chemically break down food with acid during digestion. Exercise doesn't burn calories either. As calories don't exist in physical form the body will use energy stores to fuel the body when it exerts itself.

The equation is never as simple as calories in, calories out. Humans are not cars!

The calories in, calories out "theory" was used to simplify the way humans consume energy and expend it. The theory has well been proven that it should not to be used as the basis for weight loss or gain.

Sounds like you are trying to earn money by over complicating things to baffle people.
What I see about people trying to diet is that they are obsessed over food.
Too many are too fussy and worrying about food too much.

I wanted to lose weight a few years ago. Guess, what I did?
I limited myself to 1000 calories a day (should be eating 2000 easy)
I didn't eat junk (common sense) I ate the most stuff I could do bulk. No reason to eat a chocolate bar when I could have a whole tuna salad for the same calories.

1000 calories a day, strict with myself, and lost weight easy, for me, it was an engine. food it, vs food burned.

Simple, easy and worked.

Biggest problem is walking past all the things in the supermarket and not buying them

No candy, no cookies, only lean white meat, fish, salads, rice, veg curry, rise snacks, no alcohol.
 
Sounds like you are trying to earn money by over complicating things to baffle people.
What I see about people trying to diet is that they are obsessed over food.
Too many are too fussy and worrying about food too much.

I wanted to lose weight a few years ago. Guess, what I did?
I limited myself to 1000 calories a day (should be eating 2000 easy)
I didn't eat junk (common sense) I ate the most stuff I could do bulk. No reason to eat a chocolate bar when I could have a whole tuna salad for the same calories.

1000 calories a day, strict with myself, and lost weight easy, for me, it was an engine. food it, vs food burned.

Simple, easy and worked.

Biggest problem is walking past all the things in the supermarket and not buying them

No candy, no cookies, only lean white meat, fish, salads, rice, veg curry, rise snacks, no alcohol.

Well, yes. You lost weight not due to caloric restriction but by the types of food you ate and their nutritional value.

Which was exactly the point I was making; a chocolate bar and a piece of chicken can contain the same caloric value. However both have very different effects on the body in terms of weight lost or gained not to mention your energy levels.

The body processes foods nutrients in order of it's make up between carbs, proteins and fats. Your body doesn't look at the caloric value of food you are eating and keep score! Again thermodynamics does not apply in this instance.

Using calories alone will not make you lose weight. As you body doesn't set food on fire and burn it as energy.

Diet Coke is a good example. 0 calories but the aspartame and high carb value along with the lack of nutrients will lead to weight gain. Thus if you attempt to use calories alone as a measure of weight loss you'll more than likely fail in attempting to lose weight.

In your case you chose your foods well and lost weight. Your body didn't do anything with calories purely on the basis that calories don't actually exist.
 
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