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Honestly, if this thing really does come with a digitizer as well as packs a pretty mean punch under the hood, I'd heavily reconsider my Surface Pro 3. We are truly in the post-Jobs era...

Remember this quote from the very first iPhone unveiling in 2007?

So how are we going to have you control this new device? Will we ship it with a stylus? No. The best stylus is the one you have with you all the time and you're born with ten of them (referring to your fingers, of course).

This isn't necessarily a bad thing, just an observation that the times are a changin'!
 
I can't imagine the iPad Pro launching without a stylus...

On the other hand,i'd be surprised makes it so the stylus can be used with previous versions too..

Just makes more sense to have it on a big screen (um... bigger screen)
 
Watch this: http://youtu.be/FynpBelGCNc

The point I'm trying to make is Apple doesn't seem like the company which will release a weird mesh of two products, just because some people have a desire to converge everything.

Steve Jobs said Apple learned touch screens on a laptop don't work. Tim Cook mocked products that try and converge for the sake of it - and referenced this as recently as last October.

If Apple wants to bring some of the benefits of its tablet lineup to a laptop, it will - it already has. But several times it has spoken out against 'slapping a touch screen on a laptop'.

I'm not claiming they'll make a hybrid device either. If anything I think the "pro" will be a Surface competitor. I was just refuting your claim that the MacBook Air was Apple's hybrid. It's not. You would have been better off just saying they're not going to create a hybrid device.
 
Border is to thick

No, not if it is meant to be enterprise and locked into devices or stands.

Edit: I travelled to Atlanta and back over the last couple of days. The nursing home where my folks are in has an iPad, with some pretty slick software and an Apple keyboard to sign in and out with. A stylus would make the system even better. I saw TWO banks that have iPad kioskie things on the way in, both were shuttered on the way out. The Atlanta airport has a row of iPads in stands where people can get airport information. All of those applications need wide bezels. The iPad Pro will be an enterprise machine. Although, designers will want to use it to pass around the table their latest designs or concepts. I can also see this being used a great way to watch personal videos. I don't see this as a carry with you always iDevice.
 
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If somebody imagined it, it must be real :eek:
BTW - something needs to be done about bezels - period.
 
besides the bigness factor...i don't see a point. It needs to do something other then be a huge iPad for me to consider it. I do like the dare I say MS surface. Add in OS X, a cellular option and i'm sold.

Seeing these renders reminds me that i am not really interested in this product--surface pro 4 seems much more interesting. Obviously, Apple
could surprise us--but i doubt it

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The day that Apple makes a stylus they have lost their way. I hope they NEVER EVER make a product that needs a stylus...

Is anyone talking about a product that "needs" a stylus?
 
It's a "Pro" model...

12" Mac screen that detaches from its keyboard base to become an iPad running dual OS - iOS via emulation. MacPad.

They're going to need a "find my keyboard" app too!

Seriously though, they'll sell boatloads off these to the Hollywood, TV and Pro-photographer users. With a full 4 or 5K Retina display being able to zoom in and check critical focus, as well as see live set-up views from the viewfinder and immediate digital video playback will find them ubiquitous in the studio. Not that they can't do much of that now with current models, but the larger size will be greatly appreciated and useful. Everybody from the Director to the PAs will have one (or two). Camera operators, lighting folks and Executive Producers lurking in the background...

I bet the stylus (if it has one) will mount somewhere in the body too - and like other posts, I agree the bevel/frame won't have to be as large as imagined here.
 
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Following an influx of rumors surrounding the "iPad Pro" and a possible stylus accessory launching around the same time, well-known 3D modeler and designer Martin Hajek has created a series of concept renderings for each device on his blog.

Hajek's models include several details rumored for the iPad Pro, which has been claimed to carry a 12.2 - 12.9 inch display and fall in line with the rounded design of the current iPad Air 2 and iPad Mini 3. The renderings are based on some design drawings that surfaced last November, with Hajek noting the design brings back the larger bezels seen in earlier-generation iPads. Consistent with the schematics and other rumors, he also places speakers on the top and bottom and edges of the device, allowing for stereo sound when used in landscape orientation.

Otherwise, the iPad Pro sticks by most of the current-generation standbys, including volume rockers on the right side of the device, a lock button on the top right, a Lightning charger on its bottom center, and a Touch ID capacitive home button sitting in its normal central position.

Beyond the iPad Pro itself, Hajek also imagines a possibility for Apple's rumored in-house stylus. Borrowing "the design language of the iPad Pro", he added in a capacitive +/- slider for additional operations, and also elements of the Apple Watch as well, including biometric sensors and a digital crown. While the stylus renderings are interesting, a lack of leaks or even specific details about the accessory means the images are not based on any actual information.

The new renderings show off the iPad Pro mostly in the Silver option, though it's likely to receive the other two usual color options of Space Gray and Gold. The latest rumors suggest the iPad Pro may launch sometime in the late spring or early summer of this year. The full suite of renderings featuring the iPad Pro and stylus can be found on Hajek's blog.

Article Link: Rumored 'iPad Pro' and Companion Stylus Imagined in New Renderings


The Stylus is nice if it actually comes to a point and can be used in drawing/painting apps, otherwise its useless. Im sure it will only work on the ipad Pro, which unless it runs Yosemite or a hybrid of Yosemite with iOS8 layer, is pointless also.
 
The Stylus is nice if it actually comes to a point and can be used in drawing/painting apps, otherwise its useless. Im sure it will only work on the ipad Pro, which unless it runs Yosemite or a hybrid of Yosemite with iOS8 layer, is pointless also.

I'm thinking its going to be iOS, I'm a doubting Thomas when ti comes to seeing OS X on a tablet.
 
Honestly, if this thing really does come with a digitizer as well as packs a pretty mean punch under the hood, I'd heavily reconsider my Surface Pro 3. We are truly in the post-Jobs era...

Remember this quote from the very first iPhone unveiling in 2007?

So how are we going to have you control this new device? Will we ship it with a stylus? No. The best stylus is the one you have with you all the time and you're born with ten of them (referring to your fingers, of course).

This isn't necessarily a bad thing, just an observation that the times are a changin'!

Steve was absolutely right. Then and now No-stylus based touch input (which means large size buttons, etc) has been and is a best input method for operations. The stylus is not needed for operations; its needed for drawing, which is completely different thing and for handwritten notes (in Asian languages which use kanji).

you may ask why stulys? As iPads and iPhones become leading electronic tablets and smartphones in Asia, the Asia-specific writing which is based on drawing is becoming a big necessity for Apple to further penetrate Korea, China and Japan markets, all kanji based. They all need varying sensitivity levels for proper character drawing and that's why Apple is doing it.
 
I'd certainly be interested in purchasing this. I have an iPad 1 & 3. Can't think of anything that would make me buy another apart from larger size. The stereo speakers would be a plus and my 3.5 year old daughter would enjoy drawing on it with the stylus. I would like some sort of game controller that would make gaming easier for a child as well.
 
It's sad how apple is now copying and trying to catch-up to Samsung and even Microsoft.
 
This looks more and more like Apple's love-gift to musicians. The larger screen is exactly what we need to read our music on, and the addition of a stylus will make it as easy as it is on paper to add fingerings and other notations.
 
Once you are up to the size many think it will be it will do nothing better than a Macbook air which runs a more powerful OS and has larger storage.

Maybe there is a nichè market for a large tablet but all I see is a larger screen. No photo professional I know wants one at all. They love their iPad but all use MacBooks or iMac's or Mac Pros for any real work.

There's actually a large and growing number of artists that use, or want to use, tablet devices as portable sketchbooks, if not for completed artwork. Unfortunately, none of the existing styli work the way they should because an iPad hasn't been designed for them yet. The Surface Pro gets some props in this field, but creative professionals generally don't like Windows.

I'm not sure why you think a Macbook Air is a better substitute for an iPad Pro that can do what's been proposed in this and other related articles. To me, the description is more like a Cintiq that runs a special version of iOS. If Cintiqs didn't cost $1500, EVERY CREATIVE would own one.

The audience is there, but for this to be successful, Apple needs to hit the right price point.
 
Why do so many people repeat/believe this complete fallacy? The iPad had stylus available for it during the 1st generation, and the current generation of stylus for iPad have a 2000+ pressure sensitivity level that is comparable to Wacom Cintiq tablets.

Steve Jobs dismissed the stylus for the original iPhone presentation because that was the navigation standard most people were familiar with for devices that didn't have a physical keyboard..example, the Palm Pilot. Jobs wanted to make sure people understood that Apple was leaving that outdated standard of navigation behind.

The idea that Apple was against stylus for other purposes is simply not true.

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Finally, someone who hasn't spun Jobs' comments to suit their argument against styluses.

The iPad hadn't even appeared when Jobs dissed the stylus in 2007.
Apple has always been about building hardware for the appropriate task. A stylus for a larger screen horizontal orientated device is appropriate.
 
Why do so many people repeat/believe this complete fallacy? The iPad had stylus available for it during the 1st generation, and the current generation of stylus for iPad have a 2000+ pressure sensitivity level that is comparable to Wacom Cintiq tablets.

Steve Jobs dismissed the stylus for the original iPhone presentation because that was the navigation standard most people were familiar with for devices that didn't have a physical keyboard..example, the Palm Pilot. Jobs wanted to make sure people understood that Apple was leaving that outdated standard of navigation behind.

The idea that Apple was against stylus for other purposes is simply not true.

It seems that is what continues to get lost. He never said anything about being an accessory, an option, a tool for artistic and other reasons. As a navigation device it is annoying. Yet as an optional tool it is perfect.
 
Hmmmmm

Put glowing apple logo on end of stylus, would Apple not. Ever.

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One face-saving way for Apple to do this would be through a partnership with Wacom. Apple would upgrade the digitiser so that it's pixel accurate and a dude from Wacom would appear at the Keynote showing off a stylus for digital artists.

Which would screw their own line of mobile Cintiq products. Wait, scrap that.

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It turns out I do not have a workable solution here. But I want to be able to use an iPad instead of a Cintiq, and that's not currently possible due to the nature of the iPad digitiser. Making this an option would not compromise the original intentions of the iPad or Steve's hatred of styluses (which was completely justified at the time), nor would it mean Apple is somehow copying its competitors (purleeze), it would just expand the devices usability and make it attractive to additional users.

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And that's a good thing. These were my thoughts on an iPad stylus.
 
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