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"The voice came from an oblong metal plaque like a dulled mirror which formed part of the surface of the right-hand wall. Winston turned a switch and the voice sank somewhat, though the words were still distinguishable. The instrument could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely."
Bradbury?
 
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Regarding hacking, when was the last time Amazon was hacked? Or Google?

But iCloud (phishing) was broken into...
LOL. Literally this month:

An unusually sophisticated identity phishing campaign appeared to target Google's roughly 1 billion Gmail users worldwide, seeking to gain control of their entire email histories and spread itself to all of their contacts, Google confirmed Wednesday.

The worm — which arrived in users' inboxes posing as an email from a trusted contact — asked users to check out an attached "Google Docs," or GDocs, file. Clicking on the link took them to a real Google security page, where users were asked to give permission for the fake app, posing as GDocs, to manage users' email account.
http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/04/gmail-google-hack-phishing-attack.html

Or how about the 80,000 Amazon accounts that were breached?

https://www.hackread.com/amazon-suffers-security-breach/
 
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Amazons is $300 and Apples will have better sound and better mics and you think Apple will price it at 2/3 the Price?

I think Apple will unveil it at WWDC alongside advancements in Siri and new APIs, and say that it's launching in autumn. This will give developers time to add support for it ahead of launch. Apple will again show it at the autumn iPhone event, maybe show something "extra" about it, and announce the pricing/release date info.

I tend to think that Apple will price something like this in the $99-149 range, and will want you to buy several for your house. I think such a device will also act as a mesh WiFi network, enabling better coverage throughout the home. This device will also act as a HomeKit hub, and having them scattered around the home will also increase range for bluetooth smart devices. It will also act as an AirPlay speaker, and it will be a good quality one. The secret announcement in September might be that these also act as wireless charging basestations, but that seems increasingly unlikely.
 
Wait you think Apple Music got murdered by Spotify? LOLOLOL. Apple Music did in 1 year what it took Spotify 8 years to do. Spotify has YET to make $1 in profit.


Let's just hope that the Siri Smart Speaker doesn't get murdered by Amazon Echo the way Apple Music got by Spotify.. Too late once again maybe?
 
as usual, apple late to the product niche party but likely to do it better than most. at least if you're in the apple ecosystem already. if price is similar to echo or home, i could see myself picking one up.

I can't see the price being close to those. Expect the Cook tax of 1/3 or higher . I'd even say probably close to double that of the echo
 
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You're all over this thread repeating the same lie. Apple has an Entire department devoted to AI and has made several recent AI acquisitions.


Not going to happen

Tim Cook foreclosed on Apple's future in AI because of privacy

Apple doesn't have the data and doesn't have the talent (serious brain drain in the AI area).... the only way Apple will be able to attract AI talent is via acquisitions.

And Apple simply isn't serious about AI acquisitions..... and after Apple acquires an AI company, most of the AI talent would rather leave to more serious companies in AI anyway.

Apple's future is already foreclosed upon. Siri is the great representation of the story of Apple (and going forward)
 
Why? There's barely any 4k content. Even most of the 4k blu rays were upconverted from 2k

Maybe it will be built into a 4K Apple TV with satellite devices available to put throughout your home. I'm not upgrading my 4th generation Apple TV until there's one that supports 4K.
 
Am I the only one who thinks these things are useless? I mean, why would you not want to just raise your wrist and ask Siri something there? You have to be in the specific room to use one of these...
No you are not alone. Me too, I wonder, what's the usefulness of this ? "Siri, buy me the latest U2 Song ?" ??!! Home automation is nowhere near widely spread to make this useful - let alone Apples implementation (HomeKit) of it.
 
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Wait you think Apple Music got murdered by Spotify? LOLOLOL. Apple Music did in 1 year what it took Spotify 8 years to do. Spotify has YET to make $1 in profit.

Given it was preinstalled on every latest iPhone ....Idevice with a 3 month free trial, its uptake numbers are very poor.

apple musics problem is that it launched with an awful app , that had horrific UI and is so damn hip hop centric that most people don't realise there is so much good music on it. They don't go past what is the awful Beats 1 station .

AM should have murdered Spotify, though they choose to become hip hop centric..... Spotify will do just fine...
 
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I think Apple will unveil it at WWDC alongside advancements in Siri and new APIs, and say that it's launching in autumn. This will give developers time to add support for it ahead of launch. Apple will again show it at the autumn iPhone event, maybe show something "extra" about it, and announce the pricing/release date info.

I tend to think that Apple will price something like this in the $99-149 range, and will want you to buy several for your house. I think such a device will also act as a mesh WiFi network, enabling better coverage throughout the home. This device will also act as a HomeKit hub, and having them scattered around the home will also increase range for bluetooth smart devices. It will also act as an AirPlay speaker, and it will be a good quality one. The secret announcement in September might be that these also act as wireless charging basestations, but that seems increasingly unlikely.
Nice guesses - if even half are right, I'll buy one.

As for answering the question many are asking, on why Apple is needs a IoT device, although IoT devices are still a niche market, it is a growing market, and Amazon and Google are coming with their A game.

To expand on your points, I think Apple has certain advantages it can leverage against the Amazon Echo. The device will, of course, be much more integrated with any Apple services you have, such as your calendar, messages, music, the activity app, etc. Siri is further along in languages supported than Alexa, so Apple has a larger potential base of customers. In addition to streaming from the cloud, Apple devices will probably be able to stream directly to the iSpeaker (or whatever it's called). Lastly, if they are smart, they'll follow Google's lead and have an option to send visual notices to Apple TV connected TV screens. It'd be really crazy if it is the Apple TV 5 as suggested by @AZMerf.
 
Oh, another human phart-noise collector. Why don't they just add a camera to it so we can all log in and visit each other virtually 24/7...

Oh man! Just had a Logan's Run moment. It could happen!

"What are doing on my channel?
 
I've been waiting for Siri to be good since the day I got my 4s. This thing is doa as far as I'm concerned unless Siri gets an overhaul.

I imagine the changes to Siri will come first, followed by the announcement of the speaker. I know Apple has hired a team of engineers to restructure Siri. And I'm assuming these changes are coming soon. Either way, Siri is actually one of my favorite functions on the iPhone when it performs properly. It makes everything so much more convenient and efficient. Just as I am sending you this message for example, I'm using Siri for dictation.
 
Siri is only lagging farther and farther behind (of Google Assistant, Cortana, Alexa), no sign it would ever catch up, given how Apple is also far behind in AI research. As a result, there is no chance Apple could get any significant dent in this "virtual assistant enabled speaker" product category.

I think you are making a good point, but there are definitely some important reasons to consider as to "why" Siri is lagging behind. Privacy might be the thing holding Siri back.

Google Assistant has taken a different approach that I think might be giving better performance than Siri. Google will likely keep on making their Google Assistant better and better, and try to play down the "privacy" issue. I think most people care so little about privacy in reality, that this strategy could continue to work for Google. Nobody seems to care about privacy and Google knows it - they may have the winning formula.

Siri is crippled by taking this high road of protecting end user privacy. I wonder how Apple will do better while still protecting privacy.

I certainly hope Apple Siri developers do not have their head up their "you know whats" and can get Siri to do some pretty basic stuff a lot better. For instance, why is it so hard for Siri to pop up a tap-able phone number when responding to my query for a retail establishment? I end up telling Siri ( on the second try ), to "search Google for ______" and Google shows me what I wanted AND puts a clickable phone number..... Was that such a hard thing to do that Siri and Apple cannot do it? Why am I forced to have to do the Google search to get such a thing happening? Siri Developers better get some feedback from real people living in smaller cities etc...... I just have a feeling that lately the developers are all satisfied with their work, because maybe all they seem to search for is "Starbucks" or something and are missing the fact that if you search for something that is not a big box store or big restaurant chain, you get bad results from your Siri search whereas a Google search gets you what you really wanted....
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I imagine the changes to Siri will come first, followed by the announcement of the speaker. I know Apple has hired a team of engineers to restructure Siri. And I'm assuming these changes are coming soon. Either way, Siri is actually one of my favorite functions on the iPhone when it performs properly. It makes everything so much more convenient and efficient. Just as I am sending you this message for example, I'm using Siri for dictation.


I also love using Siri for dictation. I almost NEVER type a text message, it's so much faster to dictate with Siri. That's one thing that Siri is really excellent at, I agree.
 
I imagine the changes to Siri will come first, followed by the announcement of the speaker. I know Apple has hired a team of engineers to restructure Siri. And I'm assuming these changes are coming soon. Either way, Siri is actually one of my favorite functions on the iPhone when it performs properly. It makes everything so much more convenient and efficient. Just as I am sending you this message for example, I'm using Siri for dictation.

Once Siri has trained you how to talk to it, it's not bad :p

Things only get messed up if you have an echo or google and try the same commands with Siri, Siri and I disagree about the weather forecast each morning, Alexa gets me :)

Fingers crossed on some major Siri updates, though for people that use it daily, I don't think they have the same issues that people who use Alexa/google/Siri have.
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I think you are making a good point, but there are definitely some important reasons to consider as to "why" Siri is lagging behind. Privacy might be the thing holding Siri back.

Google Assistant has taken a different approach that I think might be giving better performance than Siri. Google will likely keep on making their Google Assistant better and better, and try to play down the "privacy" issue. I think most people care so little about privacy in reality, that this strategy could continue to work for Google. Nobody seems to care about privacy and Google knows it - they may have the winning formula.

Siri is crippled by taking this high road of protecting end user privacy. I wonder how Apple will do better while still protecting privacy.

I certainly hope Apple Siri developers do not have their head up their "you know whats" and can get Siri to do some pretty basic stuff a lot better. For instance, why is it so hard for Siri to pop up a tap-able phone number when responding to my query for a retail establishment? I end up telling Siri ( on the second try ), to "search Google for ______" and Google shows me what I wanted AND puts a clickable phone number..... Was that such a hard thing to do that Siri and Apple cannot do it? Why am I forced to have to do the Google search to get such a thing happening? Siri Developers better get some feedback from real people living in smaller cities etc...... I just have a feeling that lately the developers are all satisfied with their work, because maybe all they seem to search for is "Starbucks" or something and are missing the fact that if you search for something that is not a big box store or big restaurant chain, you get bad results from your Siri search whereas a Google search gets you what you really wanted....
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I also love using Siri for dictation. I almost NEVER type a text message, it's so much faster to dictate with Siri. That's one thing that Siri is really excellent at, I agree.

Good post. Though Siri has long been neglected before Tim jumped on the privacy bandwagon. It's a good excuse, though frankly Apple has not invested in it, like Apple TV.
 
I wish it all the luck in the world..

By the look of it ( hardly Ive's finest hour ) and the fact it uses siri ( 99.99% useless ) , it's going to need it

Sad how Apple now play catch up , in SJ's day they led from the front

That's what happens when you have a small minded bean counter with the vision of a gas pump as your ceo
 
as usual, apple late to the product niche party but likely to do it better than most. at least if you're in the apple ecosystem already. if price is similar to echo or home, i could see myself picking one up.

I honestly don't see why people have a big issue with this. Some call it copying, but it is really a matter of perfecting or making something very good upon release. It doesn't always work out that way, but in the modern era where every manufacturer knows what the other is doing, being the first to market typically doesn't mean being the best. Every tech company is copying the other, this isn't the 80's or 90's when one or two companies were able to have huge technological advantages over all the others. It is a relatively even playing field and the one that does something the best is the one that will win. To me, it's time worth waiting.
 
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