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I still wonder what people use MMS for....
It works perfectly well here in Germany with T-Mobile, yet I haven't used it once.
Almost none of my friends or family members have non-email phones, so just keep sending and receiving emails for free, instead of paying a ridiculous extra amount of my hard earned bucks on MMS.
 
It's quite amusing because when the iPhone first came out, it received a lot of criticism because it didn't have MMS. Mostly, the complaints came from the Europeans who were used to using MMS, while the defenders were from the USA who told us MMS was obsolete and to send it by email.

How come the Americans are so desperate to get MMS working now that it's featured on the iPhone? :rolleyes:
 
Logic and reasoning:

The current 3.1 beta expires in 14+ days.

Apple releaes new iPods with the 3.1 software on September 9th, 6 days from now.

Still leaving 8-9 days left on the beta, I think that, like 3.0, Apple might want developers to check their apps against the final 3.1 version before they can be put into the wild.

Apple releases the 3.1 GM to developers on the 9th, and releases it to the public on the 16th.

This gives developers a week to update online before the beta expires, and only a day or two to update after the public release (for those who are using the 3.1 beta without a connection to a developer "anymore").

This also gives AT&T a week to work out kinks while there is a small userbase that will provide feedback.

I was actually thinking about this all last night, and I figured I'd see some speculation here soon.
 
I still wonder what people use MMS for....
It works perfectly well here in Germany with T-Mobile, yet I haven't used it once.
Almost none of my friends or family members have non-email phones, so just keep sending and receiving emails for free, instead of paying a ridiculous extra amount of my hard earned bucks on MMS.

It's quite amusing because when the iPhone first came out, it received a lot of criticism because it didn't have MMS. Mostly, the complaints came from the Europeans who were used to using MMS, while the defenders were from the USA who told us MMS was obsolete and to send it by email.

How come the Americans are so desperate to get MMS working now that it's featured on the iPhone? :rolleyes:

MMS in the US is included with your SMS plan at no extra cost. Many people would use this feature. It is a free upgrade to your SMS plan if you have one.
 
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Didn't Apple already say it's only going to be music at the media event?

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It would be cool if iPod Touch users could send SMS and MMS from WiFi. :cool:
 
I bet that the firmware 3.1 will resize MMS images if you're using ATT, and that's why they're waiting - so instead of a big beautiful picture being sent like on most carriers, you'll get a pixelated little thumbnail. Thanks ATT.

T-Mobile does this as well, so this is nothing new.
 
As always, MR's own exclusive sources are not the main value of the site: the main value is MR's ability to judge OTHER sources and know what's credible and what isn't. Thanks for tracking this down.
 
Everyone is just guessing

That's exactly how it works.. so in the US it will be enabled by a new Carrier File, which will most likely (but doesn't have to be) shipped with iPhone OS 3.1

first, it was they had to change the opt out codes, well, we all did that when we got our new 3gs phones, now it's the new ipcc file. Well I've had 5.21 carrier file and beta 3.1 Firmware for a month, and I still don't haver MMS.
At&T has got to flip that switch to ON and then hope their system doesn't crash. This will be their last chance to prove they are a major player in the business or just being dragged around on Apples coat tails.
If they blow this it's gonna iPhones for any carrier next. You'll know Sept 28th whether to sell off your ATT stock or not.
 
It would be cool if iPod Touch users could send SMS and MMS from WiFi. :cool:

Agreed, perhaps some carrier could start the trend of connecting accounts through the net for that purpose. That way, iPod users can have some of the functionality they've been missing/longing for, and still have the much-more-outstanding processing speed for the apps. IMO...iPod Touch 2G processors pwns iPhone processors of any model. Just a thought. :p
 
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Not sure why the new OS is required, MMS works fine here in the UK
But I most likely have an American AT&T customized software version on my phone, so MMS is disabled in the software. Unless I'm missing something...
It's not the OS that needs to be modified. It is on AT&T's end ( customer account settings ) and the carrier support files ( Mac-->Users-->username-->Library-->iTunes-->iPhone Carrier Support-->ATT_US.ipcc ) the iPhone uses. Right now the iPhone reports the carrier ( iPhone-->Settings-->General-->About ) as AT&T 4.0. Those who hack their iPhones to work with MMS / tethering on AT&T have the iPhone report the carrier as AT&T 5.0.
 
Questionable articles...

In the recent times I am seeing a lot of + questionable (fillers) articles on Macrumors.

Earlier MR used to have decent and worthy articles but nowadays it has become "Gizmodo of techblogs" (Read factory of crap articles).

May be web traffic is going down on MR?

Just a thought. :rolleyes:
 
It's really just pathetic at this point that both MMS and tethering are not available. Every year that I've had the iPhone has been getting more and more frustrating with AT&T.

If the rumors are true, we will be on Verizon's network next year. I will sell my 3GS and pay the AT&T cancellation fee the very day there is an iPhone available on the Verizon network. I am so sick of and disgusted by AT&T that I will pay any amount to be done with them and still be using an iPhone that isn't jailbroken or hacked.

Of all of the rumors about Apple products...

iTablet
iPod Cameras
Carbon Fiber MBA Cases to Reduce Weight
30" LED ACD
New AppleTV
Apple Televisions
Mac Media Server
iPhone Nano
Blu Ray
Arrandale
OLED Displays
iPhone Tethering
iPhone MMS
3G Cards Built-In to Macs
etc etc etc

... I most hope the iPhone is on the Verizon Network in less than a year.

I suspect there are many people out there that will do the exact same thing as me. Cancellation fees will be AT&T's saving face to losing all the iPhone accounts. Think of all the money AT&T will make recovering its up front costs of gaining subscribers in the first place.

I would bet that when we dump our AT&T iPhones the people buying them on eBay and Craig's List will be jail breaking them on T-Mobile and NOT connecting them back on AT&T's network. Meaning that once we leave AT&T our accounts will never be recovered by AT&T.

I really really look forward to the iPhone on the Verizon Network. Anyone else out there sick of AT&T and its B.S.?
 
You want MMS? Email the picture.

Yes that works but it is a pain and it sometimes does not even work. The other person never gets it.
ATT has a mess of a network and hopefully one day they will get thru it all so it works seemlessly...hahahaha. I'm sorry I cant see them ever getting it right.
 
Agreed, perhaps some carrier could start the trend of connecting accounts through the net for that purpose. That way, iPod users can have some of the functionality they've been missing/longing for, and still have the much-more-outstanding processing speed for the apps. IMO...iPod Touch 2G processors pwns iPhone processors of any model. Just a thought. :p

On second thought, it would have to be restricted to iPod-to-iPod, because AT&T would not want billions of iPods to be sending MMS to iPhones that would used 3G bandwidth.
 
September 25th release date

This was just released on Yahoo Finance:


NEW YORK (AP) -- AT&T says the latest iPhone models will finally get the ability to send picture and video messages to other phones on Sept. 25.

Apple Inc.'s popular phone has lacked the ability to send messages using MMS, or Multimedia Messaging Service, since the first model launched in 2007.

The original model still won't be able to send MMS. Its users will have to keep sending pictures in e-mail. The new feature applies to the 3G model, launched last year, and the 3GS, launched this year.

A software update this summer prepared the latest phones for MMS, but AT&T, the sole iPhone carrier in the U.S., held off on enabling the feature to make sure its network could handle the traffic.



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ATT-says-iPhone-to-get-apf-150587638.html?x=0
 
Just in case there was any doubt:

The carrier will switch on the feature as of September 25th through a software upgrade for iPhone 3G and 3GS owners. Adding the feature will let those running iPhone 3.0 or later firmware send photos, videos and general data like contact cards to any MMS-aware phone.

This has nothing to do with OS 3.1. It'll probably just be a carrier file.
 
It's quite amusing because when the iPhone first came out, it received a lot of criticism because it didn't have MMS. Mostly, the complaints came from the Europeans who were used to using MMS, while the defenders were from the USA who told us MMS was obsolete and to send it by email.

How come the Americans are so desperate to get MMS working now that it's featured on the iPhone? :rolleyes:

Just because you hear the loudest people in a group does not mean you hear what a group really wants.
Everyone I know with an iphone has always wanted what a normal cell phone already had.
 
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It seriously puzzles me why Apple would even associate with (IMO) the worst carrier known to man. They rape your wallets, jip you of key features, and all together just suck royal arse. :mad::mad::mad:
While there are definitely times where I just give a puzzled "REALLY!?!" response to AT&T related services, don't brainwash yourself quite yet. Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile, etc will 'milk' you just as much. Verizon most certainly cripples the features on their phones ( Bluetooth is a big complaint ) and they add their buggy and bloated 'skin' to the OS on some phones. There are certainly reasonable complaints but let's not go overboard with finger pointing and shoving.
 
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