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ahhhhh I really hate that BUMP! hey Apple why don’t you open a survey and ask what the ppl really want and hate.
 
Will AppleCare cover damage caused by the phone being whacked with a slipper?
 
Bunching them up in the corner is a bad move imho.....
It is time to move the camera away from the upper corner and center it. Then move the cameras in single file to improve the aesthetics.
 
Enough of the "thinness wars;" can we just get a phone with a flat back again please?
It is not about flatness but weight. The XS is heavy enough as it is. XS Max even more so. If you make it with a flat back and same camera tech it will be significantly heavier unless the extra size just contains an empty shell.
 
Enough of the "thinness wars;" can we just get a phone with a flat back again please?
Thinnest wars?

They removed the analogue headphone port because they said they wanted to make phones thinner, but the iPhone 7 and everything after that has gradually gotten thicker and thicker.

Now,they are also heavier than ever.

That notch, headshakingly stupid design, just as stupid as the corner positioned camera, because can’t rest flat in desk, so painful using it for a calculator.

Vivo and Oppo are onto a good solution with the motorised retractable camera....need to centralise it though.
 
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Thinnest wars?

They removed the analogue headphone port because they said they wanted to make phones thinner, but the iPhone 7 and everything after that has gradually gotten thicker and thicker.

Now,they are also heavier than ever.

That notch, headshakingly stupid design, just as stupid as the corner positioned camera, because can’t rest flat in desk, so painful using it for a calculator.

Vivo and Oppo are onto a good solution with the motorised retractable camera....need to centralise it though.
The notch is not "headshakingly stupid." It was the best initial solution to allow more screen real-estate without bezels. Technology evolves. The steps in between huge leaps aren't perfect, but they're still improvements. If you'd seriously rather have huge bezels on top and bottom instead of having a small cutout, then you're just crazy.

Also, having cameras in the corner is not a poor design decision. It's the best location to ensure that fingers won't touch the lens during normal useage or cover the lens when taking a photo in portrait mode. Most people don't care about their phone lying flat. Most people use cases so their phones do, in fact, lie flat. When using a case, the bulge is actually a benefit. It ensures that the case doesn't extend beyond the lens and prevent light from reaching it.
 
Yeah, it’s certainly triggering some phobias...
 

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Just my opinion. Personally I prefer this large patch design over the pill one. I feel that the pill design is basically just taking the current pill shape of the X and XS and moving it horizontally in the middle of the phone. Also if this design is indeed final and with the possibility of us having dark mode of iOS 13, then the one that will sell like hot cakes will be the space gray color.
 
I don't understand why people think it's so ugly. It's no more or less so than most modern smartphones. One or two YouTubers don't like it and suddenly it's a thing.

I just wish the bump would go away.
You can get rid of the bump by putting the damned thing into a case. Even a thin case.

Why can’t the phone be thicker in other places so that we get a decent battery?
The battery in my XS Max is just fine but I'd go slightly thicker. After all, it would still fit in my shirt pocket.

Not the most attractive but what does it matter, no one stares at the back of their phone all day.
There you go again, making sense. Sheesh, squash all these people and their drama some more, willya? :p

I think it looks different. And in that sense - cool. Not the usual straight line of cameras found in other models. It also keeps all the lens elements in a compact area. I’ve always thought that people complaining about the way cameras look on the back of a smartphone as kinda pointless. They get all worked up about things like camera bumps. Lol. Really? Most smart people keep their smartphones in a case anyway thus elimanating any “bump”...but regardless, how is a slightly raised camera element an issue? I think it just gives people a reason to complain about iphones getting too thin. As if that was a real issue.
I'm functional about it. I'd rather have an overall better picture and filming experience. If that means we put 4 or 40 cameras on it, then I'm game! Give me that X-Ray camera too while you're at it. I've got some shelves to hang up and I'd really like to see where the wall studs are. :D

Back in the day you could put a phone down and it would lay flat.
Back in the day you would put it in a case and attach it to your body so you don't leave it on the table at that Denny's you like to go to.

Okay, now that's funny as all hell!

Did you just say that good design is putting in a worse camera just so that it's flat?

And you say Apple is too concerned with asthetic?
You're right. You win! No, really, I declare you the winner for common sense!
 
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Vivo and Oppo are onto a good solution with the motorised retractable camera....need to centralise it though.
No. Retractable is a poor solution; anything which increases mechanical complexity is.

Let’s see how it all works out in terms of reliability when you make 100 million devices with motorized pop up cameras and people except to use the devices for 4-5 years. Devices get dropped, pockets are full of dust and cruft which gets into the mechanism and so on. It’s just a poor solution.

Well, of course nobody uses Android devices that long, they get thrown into garbage in 1-2 years, but for iPhones this solution is of course no go.

I don’t understand, once again, the negativity in this discussion. The alleged triple camera setup looks ok to me. Maybe not beautiful, but can’t see how an array of cameras could look much different. Function over form. Samsung’s wide horizontal array of cameras isn’t really any better or worse. I think Huawei or someone had a similar square setup.

Complaining about the bump..who cares? Apple can’t change the laws of physics. It only matters if you use your phone while it’s on a flat surface. I basically never do that. Also, I use a case.

The bump could be removed by making the phone 2mm thicker. Then people would complain in a crazy 1000 comment thread that the phone is impossible to use with a case.

Back in the day, when phones were thicker, they were also much narrower. Trust me, they do test these things with all sorts of dummy models.

Sometimes companies need to ”fire customers”. Lots of good candidates in these threads.
 
Apple should just place cameras in the middle of the back of the iPhone. That way it will resemble a point and shoot camera.
 
Soon, phones are going to be completely covered in lenses on the back.
 
Good grief. Just make the case a little bit thicker, use that for more battery capacity, and then make the camera flush with the rest of the case.




The next iPhone XS Max and possibly iPhone XS will feature a triple-lens rear camera system within a square bump like the Huawei Mate 20 Pro, according to Japanese blog Mac Otakara, citing information from Chinese suppliers. The report includes a few renders of what the new design could look like.

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Render via Mac Otakara

The renders are largely consistent with earlier ones shared by OnLeaks, who also expects at least one 2019 iPhone to have a triple-lens rear camera. One difference is that the camera lenses are more symmetrically aligned in the renders above, whereas the lenses are asymmetrical in the OnLeaks render below.

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Render via OnLeaks/Digit

The Wall Street Journal in January reported that the next iPhone XS Max will feature a triple-lens camera, with the next iPhone XS and iPhone XR featuring dual-lens rear cameras. However, Mac Otakara says there is a high probability of a triple-lens camera on both the next iPhone XS and iPhone XS Max.

Mac Otakara's sources claim Apple is readying official iPhone cases with "large holes" on the back, presumably for the square bump.

Many other sources have backed up the triple-lens camera rumor, including the well-connected Ming-Chi Kuo and Mark Gurman. Apple would be following in the footsteps of Android smartphone makers like Samsung and Huawei by adding a third lens, which should result in improved 3D sensing and other benefits.

Apple is expected to stick with 5.8-inch, 6.1-inch, and 6.5-inch displays for its 2019 iPhone lineup, with other rumored features including frosted glass casing, larger batteries, and bilateral charging of other devices like AirPods.

Article Link: Rumors Persist of Triple-Lens Camera in Square Bump on Higher-End 2019 iPhones
 
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That would get me more excited than any other camera feature.
Speaking only for myself...I don't want a thicker phone. I suspect others might feel the same.

I'd love an iPhone SE with full screen and no camera bump (with a headphone jack too). I'd even take an extra millimeter if it meant a decent battery.

That'd get me excited about iPhones again!
 
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To everyone saying it's ugly, stop wasting your time. We all know, however ugly the next iPhone is, we're all buying one.
 
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