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Running with the Apple Training app

xDKP said:
Saw the video then he posted it - looks good - competition is always nice. I use Strava quite a lot already and don't use Komoot, so it would be a bit easier if I could stay with one platform.
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I get you there, it's the part of the experience I don't enjoy with the Apple Watch, by having to use different apps, for different purposes. The beauty of my Garmin, is well, everything is already there for a running training experience. I've used the Workoutdoors app, but I find the who UI and experience, cumbersome and too much. I also just want simplicity, so have stuck with the Apple workout app.

Although I'm at 10 weeks and 1 day, since I last ran, and have another 13 days before I theoretically am allowed to.
 
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Madonepro said:
I get you there, it's the part of the experience I don't enjoy with the Apple Watch, by having to use different apps, for different purposes. The beauty of my Garmin, is well, everything is already there for a running training experience. I've used the Workoutdoors app, but I find the who UI and experience, cumbersome and too much. I also just want simplicity, so have stuck with the Apple workout app.

Although I'm at 10 weeks and 1 day, since I last ran, and have another 13 days before I theoretically am allowed to.
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Coming back from injury myself - best wishes for your recovery
 
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We have a pretty cold and icy time of year here in Denmark, so I have been running a bit on a treadmill indoors - Baffles me that it is still not posssible to change the distance afterwards to match the treadmill... I know they will argue that many treadmills might support the "Connect to Apple Watch" which is a nice feature - but for those of us in a gym without that feature, the distance, time etc. is off and would be so simple to be able to adjust it afterwards
 
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We have a pretty cold and icy time of year here in Denmark, so I have been running a bit on a treadmill indoors - Baffles me that it is still not posssible to change the distance afterwards to match the treadmill... I know they will argue that many treadmills might support the "Connect to Apple Watch" which is a nice feature - but for those of us in a gym without that feature, the distance, time etc. is off and would be so simple to be able to adjust it afterwards
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Agreed. Even COROS offers this feature, which is why I generally track my treadmill runs with a Pace Pro. COROS even recalculates spilts, which I find helpful for interval sessions.
 
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xDKP said:
We have a pretty cold and icy time of year here in Denmark, so I have been running a bit on a treadmill indoors - Baffles me that it is still not posssible to change the distance afterwards to match the treadmill... I know they will argue that many treadmills might support the "Connect to Apple Watch" which is a nice feature - but for those of us in a gym without that feature, the distance, time etc. is off and would be so simple to be able to adjust it afterwards
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A footpod is a good solution for this problem. Even a cheap one like Zwiftpod is ok.
 
The very slow saving of custom workouts seems to be fixed with watchOS 26.3.
Did a workout today and it saved/synced as fast as a normal (open) running workout.

Still observing though.
 
Is anyone noticing that, for custom workouts, total elevation is not being calculated since watchOS 26? The elevation chart is still displayed on the workout, it's just the total that is missing. This happens in the Workout app as well as WorkOutDoors.
It's not every workout but it is most of them. I've created a feedback with Apple, but I've only seen one other report online so not sure how widespread it is.

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NME42 said:
The very slow saving of custom workouts seems to be fixed with watchOS 26.3.
Did a workout today and it saved/synced as fast as a normal (open) running workout.

Still observing though.
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I noticed this happening even with open workouts since watchOS 26 too. Not all the time, but for some longer runs it was taking several minutes to save.
 
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No elevation here as well. And it screwed my last 2K interval up and made the next recovery “unknown”. On the track the last 2K was around 4.08/km and somehow it ended up putting the recovery on top and made my time over double - weird

Also once again the watch said 14,3 km before pressing end and 14,17 after
 
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xDKP said:
No elevation here as well. And it screwed my last 2K interval up and made the next recovery “unknown”. On the track the last 2K was around 4.08/km and somehow it ended up putting the recovery on top and made my time over double - weird

Also once again the watch said 14,3 km before pressing end and 14,17 after
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Are you on watchOS 26.3?

Still a few things seriously broken with custom workouts it seems. Please open a bug ticket.
 
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rbart said:
I have created a WorkoutDoors alternative with a simpler UI/UX
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As there is no contact possibility on your website I have to ask here:
How can I add a long run as a workout. When I try it over the intervals I can't add an intervall >59m:59s in the app.

Best Regards
Andreas
 
To follow up on the topic/issue some of you have mentioned - track running distance bug

I haven't done a longer run on the track for a while but this week I've done that silly "birthday run" thing (but I'm getting too old for the distance in kilometres, I don't do ultra 😃 so I did my age in track laps.)

Before finishing the run, I saw the distance being shown perfectly correctly on the watch - as I crossed the finish line of the 46th lap (in the 1st lane), it would get over 18400 m, I stopped at 18 410 or so. However, after finishing the workout, it would only show 18.19 km.

When looking in the workout details, it does display 46 laps of 400 m each.

So the watch "knows" the correct distance but there's some odd recalculation going on. Considering it removed a bit over 200 m from the total distance, something like 4.5 m per lap, it makes me think that it calculated the total length of the inner line of the lane, instead of the actual 400 m in the lane center.

Sadly I didn't take a screenshot on the watch before completing the workout so I will next time - I plan to go to the track more often now. Remind me please - what's the most reliable way of bug reporting (for non-beta)? Is it this form, https://www.apple.com/feedback/watch/ or is there a better way?

This is annoying as hell, especially since it used to work perfectly... 🫤
 
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To follow up on the topic/issue some of you have mentioned - track running distance bug

I haven't done a longer run on the track for a while but this week I've done that silly "birthday run" thing (but I'm getting too old for the distance in kilometres, I don't do ultra 😃 so I did my age in track laps.)

Before finishing the run, I saw the distance being shown perfectly correctly on the watch - as I crossed the finish line of the 46th lap (in the 1st lane), it would get over 18400 m, I stopped at 18 410 or so. However, after finishing the workout, it would only show 18.19 km.

When looking in the workout details, it does display 46 laps of 400 m each.

So the watch "knows" the correct distance but there's some odd recalculation going on. Considering it removed a bit over 200 m from the total distance, something like 4.5 m per lap, it makes me think that it calculated the total length of the inner line of the lane, instead of the actual 400 m in the lane center.

Sadly I didn't take a screenshot on the watch before completing the workout so I will next time - I plan to go to the track more often now. Remind me please - what's the most reliable way of bug reporting (for non-beta)? Is it this form, https://www.apple.com/feedback/watch/ or is there a better way?

This is annoying as hell, especially since it used to work perfectly... 🫤
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Happy birthday 🙂

Well it has been like this for a while - and can confirm it is the same on both my daughters Series 7 and my Ultra 3 and was the same on my Ultra 1 on previous WatchOS.

Really weird and my daughter HATE that she finally went to 5K and when pressing finish, it changes to 4,89 km or something like it.
 
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Just went on a interval session today - 15 km with 2 x 3K in the middle (1K jog in between). Noticed the elevation min/max on the resume page.

Paused for 30 seconds to pee in the middle and it completely messed up the middle part of the segments. Total time of the run was 01:09:03 and if I add the below time up it's over one hour and 40 minutes!? Something is messed up

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Just went on a interval session today - 15 km with 2 x 3K in the middle (1K jog in between). Noticed the elevation min/max on the resume page.

Paused for 30 seconds to pee in the middle and it completely messed up the middle part of the segments. Total time of the run was 01:09:03 and if I add the below time up it's over one hour and 40 minutes!? Something is messed up

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I did the same workout Saturday, although I used the app Watchletic.
 

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xDKP said:
Coming back from injury myself - best wishes for your recovery
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Hope your recovery is progressing well. I am up to 59 km's (37 miles) and approx 15 activities since we last spoke. After having 3 months of no running, with a little bit of walking, the journey back to where I was, will take some time. My Garmin Fenix 8 died, and although Garmin were to send a replacement, as the model I had, has developed some issues with firmware upgrades across the board, I asked for the ability to upgrade, and pay the difference. They instead refunded me, so that I could go out and buy the upgrade myself. I looked at the Fenix 8 Pro, and didn't like what they have done to the bezels, and then the Forerunner 970, but laggy. I researched many YT videos, and came to the conclusion, the Apple Watch Ultra 3 is good enough for me.
I'm using the Runna App, and the workout data screens are good. Would love to somehow have Lacate Threshold estimation available, and VO2 max better presented, but I'm not in my 30's, and need to get off the data wagon wheel.
 
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